• 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I like that the movies made her comms officer (eventually) on the Excelsior. Sulu seems like a better captain to serve under than James “why did Starfleet assign me a female yoman” Kirk. What the hell kind of shit is that in the 23rd century?

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      10 days ago

      Probably to highlight exactly that tension on television, which at the time was shocking to people - hence the audience could sympathize, while learning that “hey, women can do this job too… oh yeah, they really can!?💡”

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        Women couldn’t even have their own bank accounts until 1974. Star Trek arose during quite the civil unrest.

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          Wow. It boggles my mind to think about how rapidly things have changed. As an extremely strong proponent of wokeness - bc wrong is wrong, regardless of time period - I also get how culture takes a moment to digest the changes happening all around us.

          For example, 1974 wasn’t all that recent, but those 50 years ago seems so much more so than e.g. the 1920s of 100 years ago, in large part due to being able to see it on Television (even with wacky coloration & such:-). Every aspect of life - like taking a horse or walking rather than Uber or subterranean Metro - has changed since the 20s, but also a lot has changed since the 70s too. And even the people who lived through it may not realize all the various ways how.

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            You’re actually the first person I’ve ever seen who was explicitly pro-“woke”.

            Probably we agree on the majority of things, not disparaging it. But I’ve only ever, EVER heard the phrase in the context of right-wing Americans describing anything or anyone that they disagreed with or were told not to like. Like how “lib’ral” became a hate word for a bunch of people in the 90s. Well, or people who were using it to make fun of those people. Kind of like CRT.

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              That might be because it originated in the black community and was only becoming widespread in the white community when it was highjacked by the right wing and tried to turn it into a slur.

              It isn’t and continues to not be a slur. Especially for anyone who understands what it means.

              Conservatives use a shorthand like “woke” because they can’t outright say “being kind and respectful to others while reflecting on the mistakes of the past is a bad thing.”

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            10 days ago

            Marital rape wasn’t even considered a real thing until 1993 in the US. It was an “expectation” of the marriage that the wife always be “available” for the husband. It didn’t make it not rape, and it took us until as recently as 31 years ago to figure that out.

            In other words, marital rape was mostly still legal when I was born. In some areas, it’s still treated differently than non-married rape.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_in_the_United_States

            Prior to the 1970s, marital rape was legal in every US state. It was partially outlawed in Michigan and Delaware in 1974, then wholly outlawed in South Dakota and Nebraska in 1975. The court case Oregon v. Rideout in 1978 was the first in which someone stood trial for raping his spouse while they lived together. By 1993, marital rape was a crime nationwide. Still, in the 1990s, most states continued to differentiate between the way marital rape and non-marital rape were viewed and treated. The laws have continued to change and evolve, with most states reforming their laws in the 21st century. However, there are still states where marital rape and non-marital rape are treated quite differently under the law.

            Anyway, just agreeing with your point and showing an even more glaring and recent example.

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          Back then nearly all telephone operators were women.

          Clerical work was considered womens work.

          The first computers at NASA were programmed by women because typing was clerical and that was for women.

          A female comms officer was expected, because in real life they were already accepted in that work.