• djsoren19@yiffit.net
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    2 months ago

    Yeah, and I’m sure they’re dumb enough to fall for it the eighth time. Israel’s definitely done genociding this time, they pinkie promised they won’t come back and finish the job in another two decades when everyone forgets again. If only Hamas could be more reasonable and just accept Israel’s incredibly generous offer to return to the status quo of Israeli settlers stealing Palestinian land and killing them when they protest!

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      2 months ago

      If only Hamas could be more reasonable and just accept Israel’s incredibly generous offer to return to the status quo of Israeli settlers stealing Palestinian land and killing them when they protest!

      As opposed to the current situation of Israeli settlers stealing Palestinian land and killing them even when they don’t protest?

      Fuck, the solution to being a captive who believes they will be killed isn’t to put your captor’s gun to your head and tell them to pull the trigger. If you’re operating off of the assumption that a ceasefire is unacceptable short of Israeli capitulation to Palestinian demands, regardless of how justified, despite the fact that they have overwhelming superiority at this point in time and are on the cusp of completing their long-awaited genocide… I don’t really know what the fuck to tell you.

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        2 months ago

        If you read my comment and seriously came away with the idea that I support what Israel is doing, I don’t really know what the fuck to tell you.

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          That’s not what I’m accusing you of. I got that you’re pro-Palestinian, very clearly. I’m saying that Hamas is not in a strategically good situation, and if your opinion is that any ceasefire offers should be categorically refused by Hamas unless Hamas’s demands are met, despite Hamas currently being in a very bad position relative to Israel forces, and the intensified state of the Israeli genocide, you’re not being realistic.

          Any ceasefire that is accepted will necessarily favor Israel at this point, because Israel controls half of Gaza completely and is on the cusp of starving hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to death. Not to mention the damage done to Hamas’s material capacities to resist. I don’t know that accepting this ceasefire is the right strategic choice, but I am certain that “Continue fighting until Palestinian independence is achieved in this phase of the Israel-Palestinian conflict” rather than accepting that not every battle is won in a decades-long war is just suicide on a national scale.

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            2 months ago

            despite Hamas currently being in a very bad position relative to Israel forces

            Hamas barely lost any top ranking officers. Meanwhile israel is losing international support at lightning speed.

            The only one with their backs against the wall right now is israel. If they aren’t going to come through with a Palestinian state then Hamas doesn’t have much to lose right now by just dragging israel through the mud further.

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    2 months ago

    I don’t see how this is even particularly generous. It’s a 40 day slowdown in genocide and an agreement for Hamas to release prisoners in exchange for Israel temporarily releasing hostages that historically they just re-abduct within days anyways. And then after 40 days it’s full speed ahead of civilian slaughter again, probably with a freshly regrouped and re-armed IOF.

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      2 months ago

      You’re looking at this wrong – neither Bibi’s government or Hamas care about Palestinian deaths.

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        2 months ago

        Hamas very much cares about Palestinian deaths. Which is why a 40 day ceasefire and then more Genocide is pointless.

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    2 months ago

    A 40 day ceasefire… The original offer was 6 weeks… That’s 42 days…

    There is no point for Hamas to engage with any of these fake ceasefire deals. Either a permanent ceasefire is offered or it’s pointless.

    The Biden Propaganda train is off the charts.