I try not to be an asshole, but how much of a fucking dumbass can you be. It isn’t about government bloat, it never has been, if it WAS they would be tackling the military industrial complex. They instead have made the richest asshole on the planet the defacto president and are letting him ransack the government. How can you not see that they are literally taking your tax dollars and letting musk shovel them directly into his own pockets. If you were on a sinking ship I bet you’d be happy about it.
But they said it was about government bloat! Why would they lie? /s
Eh. Everyone on the right thinks that a shakeup of power in an over beaurocratic government is log overdo and brings the opportunity for positive change and the potential to root out (undeniable) corruption in the government. Everyone on the left thinks that the system in place deserves to stay and that marring it opens up opportunity for abuse. Also true.
The power is changing. Maybe it will be worse, maybe it will be better. The government was highly corrupt before, and probably will still be after this. Will it be more or less after power changes hands, no one can tell for sure. This has more to do what what kind of people affect change than the systems they are putting in place.
Let’s not pretend like this is a black and white issue. The future is coming fast. We have to have nuance to navigate these situations. Instead of fighting over which power figure is gonna weld their mighty staff, we need our energy to fight for our own individual independence regardless of party.
I do appreciate some nuance and unity between sane people! I think the current happenings are introducing significantly more corruption and being quite open about it, it was certainly a problem before but the degeneration is massively accelerating. We can only hope sanity and ethics prevail and musk and trump lose power, and a more stringent anti-corruption culture arises from it. I don’t think it’s likely, but we can hope. I think it’s far more likely that trump finds a way to stay in power and regardless of whether or not he does the structure and landscape of us government will be set up in such a way as to keep musk in defacto “leadership”.
I hope things will turn out well, but with so much power in the hands of people who are not only extremely unethical but motivated to change the status quo to keep themselves in power, I have a hard time seeing how things could improve from here.
Most of c/conservative right now:
Let the billionaires ransack the government stealing all my tax dollars for themselves, and also gut the agencies that prevent my cereal from having lead shavings in it.
Your dude wants to literally abolish the Department of Education, and your contribution is calling us fat.
Say one thing about the right, they sure know their electorate.
The department of education is mostly just a pass through agency. Standards are set by the states. It doesn’t take 4000 employees to divy up funding.
Or have the department of education set nationwide standards like most countries do.
Drive up the intellectual quality of the citizens and watch the country prosper.
Bush 43 tried having nantional standards and instituted profiency tests with no child left behind. Due to there being consequences for poorly performing schools and teachers, Obama capitulated to the teachers union and switched to letting the states determine tests and standards. Public school teachers may want what’s best for students but the teachers union does not.
And now we have the insane voucher scheme that will further erode the average educational standards across the country.
If a public school performs poorly they get more money, if a voucher school performs poorly they get closed. In my area voucher schools perform better than public schools and cost half as much.
Affluent white area by any chance?
And those religious “schools” that don’t have to confirm to standards. Sure they are churning out real productive, fully functioning adults.
Affluent white area by any chance?
That’s the one area where public schools outperform private in my area. The less wealthy the neighborhood the more likely private schools do better.
And those religious “schools” that don’t have to confirm to standards. Sure they are churning out real productive, fully functioning adults.
A requirement for accepting state money is standards have to be met. Private highschool graduates have higher ACT scores, higher acceptence rates into college, higher college graduation rates.
Default respond to any cost saving by the left is “nooooo”. This makes them highly irresponsible. Glad they are not in charge anymore in the US.
Now change the EU. We’re still f#cked.
“the left” has no default response to any costs saving.
“Noooooooo” as a reply comes only when a destruction of the modern state is acted masking it as “cost saving”.
It’s like a doctor prescribing suicide to solve a patient illness. It works, the illness is gone, but the patient is not feeling well afterwards.
But this is too much of a complex reasoning for a libertarian to understand, I get that. Oh well, back to you play-doh eating contest you go
Sorry, I didn’t realize that funding musicals in Ireland was core to the functioning of the American government. My bad!
/s in case you couldn’t tell.
The budget Deficit has increased under Republicans and decreased under Democrats consistently for decades.
How you can still think Republicans save you money is beyond insane. No child left behind really did a number on the populace.
The budget Deficit has increased under Republicans and decreased under Democrats consistently for decades.
Trump R -$6.612 trillion
Obama D -$6.781 trillion
Bush R -$3.293 trillion
Clinton D +$63 billion
Bush R -$1.036 trillion
Reagan R -$1.412 trillion
Carter D -$253 billion
Ford R -$181 billion
Nixon R -$70 billion
Johnson D -$36 billion
Kennedy D -$18 billion
Eisenhower R -$15 billion
Truman D -$5 billion
Roosevelt D -$194 billion
Hoover R -$5 billion
Is like to point out that most of Obama’s increase in budget was pushed through under Bush (because budgets are passed the prior year). And he brought it down from that starting point over his two terms. Trump immediately jacked it back up from what he inherited, and Biden decreased it again.
You can make excuses for every president it’s always the guy before them, but the numbers don’t show a decline in deficit for Democrat presidents.
Try Looking at an actual graph that does more than an entire term distilled into one number… Some of those don’t even look accurate. You might learn something
Oh yeah, the party of fiscal responsibility who is now trying to pass a progressive 4,5 billions tax cut for the wealthiest part of society. Who knows when these missing funds for the government will show up in its administrative books???
You must be so wise in the way of the finances, please (not) teach us master
You gonna keep posting this without understanding what it says, huh?
Corrupt according to whom? Because if you ask me who is corrupt DJT and Elon Musk top the list of corrupt politicians and business men.
hahahahah, yep!!
In the US, but basically it is a global phenomenon, government spending is out of control and unsustainable - Argentina showed us the way.
Wish we had DOGE in the EU. We need less unproductive bureaucrats not more.
Maybe, and I say maybe, before starting to dismantle core-agencies needed for the maintenance and management of a state, one should look into the meddling between private and public interests. Like, how much of our money is being used to sustain dead-end projects such as Ai development or fossil fuel? Do we want to also look into the military spending and the paths grants provided to this end follow?
If Argentina has taught us anything is that leaving citizens without services makes the lives of those same citizens even worse. The results of no hospital, schools, or state management agencies will be shown in some years, can’t wait to see libertarians trying to spin that situation in a positive way
Nope. Argentina is recovering from the illness of socialism.
Oh yes, cut spending by eliminating agencies needed by the people to have a decent life in a developed society and present the resulting savings as a victory.
It’s like a company manager firing most of its employees and selling it’s machines presenting the administrative books at the next shareholders meeting. Much profits, wow! And then the year after the company goes bankrupt and foreclose, who can say why this has happened??? Must have been the invisible hand free market!!! Fs fs, on god
Bureaucrats don’t produce they leech. Free markets improve lives of ordinary citizens not paper pushers.
We don’t have a free market. And letting the business owners do the ransacking will make it even less of a free market. You’re over here rooting for corporate capture.
Elon just awarded himself 100s of millions in government contacts for cars that fucking fall apart. He’s dumping his trash product off on you, the taxpayer’s dime. And you’re cheering him on
Did you just call AI development a dead end? Hoo boy
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