Let him start building the wall. But everytime he goes to sleep for the night, it's taken down. When he asks where the wall is everyone would go "What wall?" This continues for a while until eventually nothing is being built and people keep asking what wall he refers to.
I hate admitting this but 4 years is much longer than 2 years if we're comparing Presidents with the shortest terms that didn't end up dying almost immediately after becoming President. . .
He knows he didn’t win. There are a good portion of his voters though that think he did, so he’s milking them for every cent he can get. I honestly don’t think he’s that stupid. I honestly think he’s just got an off the wall personality, and 75% of what he does and says is to get people worked up. Angry people donate more.
Lol long before he ever became president he talked about how he believes that people only have a set amount of energy like a battery so if you exercise you’ll die sooner because you’re using your energy. Dude is a fucking buffoon. Not to mention the small comments in his speeches that aren’t inflammatory or notable except for in how ridiculous they are and just the general way he stumbles through his words.
OMG YES, I was hoping someone would bring up Trump’s battery theory of life. There are only a handful of times where Trump did/said something so fucking batshit I was in literal tears laughing about it, and this is one of them. My husband still tells me to watch that I don’t drain my battery too much when I go out for a run.
“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
-GHWB
Edited because I meant the stupid one, not Reagan's puppet.
I've always thought it would have sounded better to just say the damn thing as we all know it. Trying and failing to improvise something on the fly just made him sound like a buffoon.
At least Dubya is aware of when he says something stupid and even has cracked a joke or two at his own expense. Say what you want about him (and there is a LOT to say), at least he had a sense of humor. I can’t remember hearing Trump actually crack a joke that basically wasn’t “fuck those guys ey?”
He could've still salvaged that one without saying the words.
'Fool me once: Shame on you. Fool me twice... Well I'm sure you know the rest, but I don't want a clip of me saying the last part being used out of context later hehe.' cue that awkward GWB grin
I remember watching them thinking, oh my god this guy is so fucked haha.
Then real american fascism cropped up and persists til now. God FUCKING damnit Republicans, what the hell happened? You made Bush Jr. appear comparatively cool, do you understand what a profound statement that is?
Well you should be happy then, because Trump was a twat on Twitter AND caused the death of hundreds of thousands due to his pisspoor management of covid response and the spreading of conspiracy theories about it.
yea i hated it when he went around rubbing bats on people causing them to get sick.
I was even more shocked when people kept dying when Biden was in office. It's almost like a president can't control the spread of a virus that killed thousands all over the world regardles of how polite the leader was!
Pretty much the only people dying now are the people that buy into Trumps and other Republicans anti-vax and anti-mask bullshit.
If Trump would have just told people to wear masks and get vaccinated, his supporters would have done it because they are mindless sycophants, and Democrats would have done it because it is backed by science and recommended by the CDC. But no, he went all in on conspiracies and the virus was massively worse than it should have been.
yea i hated it when he went around rubbing bats on people causing them to get sick.
I was even more shocked when people kept dying when Biden was in office. It's almost like a president can't control the spread of a virus that killed thousands all over the world regardles of how polite the leader was!
If you read all the transcripts from whenever he doesn't have a script, this is the garbled word salad that you get. Despite the fact that he's a "stable genius"...
The Rule of Trump states that if, seeing an alleged quote, you think "no way it's real", then not only it is, but it is probably even worse in context.
I think the media helped him here too... because they have to report a story and construct a narrative, they have to make sense of what he was saying. They had to cut through the rambling incoherence to find what he was trying to say. That means they have to disregard so much that made zero sense, it was kind of summarising and removing the worst of the drivel, whilst also generously assigning it a coherent narrative. So when it become reported, it actually made far more sense than when it was said.
I think they should have just reported verbatim a lot of what was said.
I think the policy moving forward ought to be that if you're putting more work into conveying the message than the messenger's speech scheduling brain matter is ... You should have to include a literal transcription before any editorializing.
Maybe it could be presented like GDoc comments, where you can hover/tap/click highlights and the notes are summoned from the margin: "It seems like he's driving at X".
Maybe it's more like a reddit reply. Sections of the text are repeated and near their followup (but the transcript appears in full beforehand).
Hell, I see no reason you shouldn't have the literal sound bite accessible as well.
Now, I know this swings both ways, it could serve to highlight anybody's failure to articulate. My desire is that it would help bring down the age of our leaders a bit. Being able to lift a drinking glass or recite numbers with the correct order shouldn't be a celebratory moment among our Presidents/Reps/Senators.
We shouldn't be electing folks that require an interpreter to understand (even though all participants are allegedly fluent in the same language). Might as well elect a literal copy of the bible at that point.
That's a good point. They should have had grammarians and language experts come on and say, "Well, with that construction, although he seems to be saying..., he contradicts himself twice right afterwards, so it's hard to be sure what he really thinks."
The bad thing is you would have still had Fox News and his own campaign people treating him like he was the Oracle at Delphi and translating his random babblings into some genius pronouncement.
Because, listening you can't process the shift change you just try and keep up, reading it lets you back track and make sure you didn't skip a line....a few lines.... make sure you didn't drop the book entirely and pickup the wrong one. Reading lets you really take it in, and it is confusing..... how'd he make a fortune and I'm working myself to an early grave, along with many.
way more stupid when you read his speeches rather than listen to them.
To be somewhat fair: If you read direct transcripts of conversations or impromptu speeches it often seems way more chaotic than when you hear it in person. The way something is said can make a big difference, but in a transcript we are missing that context so we have no sense of the "rhythm" so to say.
But having said that, what makes that specific speech so unhinged is that he continuously changes topic. It's like he can't keep his mind on one thing. He has to say what comes up in his mind RIGHT NOW instead of finishing what he was talking about. This would be kinda in line with what both White House aides and the author of "The Art of The Deal" have told: That he has a terrible attention span. If he thinks something takes too long he'll quickly get frustrated.
I like how this meme quote always manages to make someone answer like this despite how much it's been quoted. Really highlights the insanity of his speech abilities.
another gem from the anus-mouth of trumplethinskin:
"I have broken more Elton John records. He seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don’t have a musical instrument. I don’t have a guitar or an organ. No organ. Elton has an organ. And lots of other people helping. No, we’ve broken a lot of records. We’ve broken virtually every record. Because you know, look, I only need this space. They need much more room. For basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room. We don’t need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records. Really, we do it without, like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical – the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth, right? The brain. More important than the mouth is the brain. The brain is much more important.”
Of course it's a real quote... it's Trump. Anyone else you'd think they're having a stroke if they said something like this, but this is standard operation for mr. big brain.
I can't read this. I get one sentence in and then my brain does that thing that old tv stations did where they turn off for the night and just show a Native American mans face.
I used to translate political speeches for a living - I thought most of them were bad but I can’t imagine the pain of translating such an awful rambling!
Not that I believe he wrote it, but how you talk in person vs. how you express yourself in writing can be pretty different. Of course writing has the advantage that you can review and edit it afterwards, and you can take almost all the time you need.
I've heard people say about Biden's problem with public speaking...
I guess it's the same as how they get a hard-on about 'Hilary's email' whilst simultaneously having zero problem with Kushner sitting in on security meetings despite being denied security clearance to do so. Or how they think that using a personal email address is somehow worse than asking foreign states to actively interfere in a US election... or lying about an election result and inciting an insurrection.
I mean, I get Biden isn't the most polished public speaker, but accusations of dementia and incoherence from Trump supporters are about as hypocritical as it's possible to get.
Trump was literally less coherent and articulate than the average 12 year old.
That would make sense. I just wish people would get past their hate for Trump and admit something is wrong with Biden. Sometimes he just starts rambling completely off topic.
Im not american and if i was i wouldnt have voted for either of them so I can confidently say they are just two old men. I work an IT I talk to old people everyday and those calls are always the longest because its just a tendency for them to ramble on about things and not follow full trains of thought.
I literally had a call about domain registrations and the person started talking about the weather/why working from home was bad/ free lancing/ his daughter (who does not work from home or freelance so i dont even know where this came from) ect ect
What would have been a 5 minute call turned into a 30 minute call and an email. Some people just need to realize old people are old and sometimes their memory and trains of thought are shit not necessarily because of dementia or something just because thats what its like being old.
I'm not saying Trump was without flaws by all means, but you gotta admit sometimes it's hard to even follow what Biden is talking about. Let's all be honest with one another.
Biden isn't a very good orator. He stutters and stumbles over words sometimes and this can detract from the message he's conveying. I think he's aware of this as well and is therefore under-confident as a result. And it shows. And that might dilute his message for some.
Nonetheless, his speeches tend to have structure, relevance and make sense (literally speaking) and, generally speaking, also convey the narrative or message he's aiming for.
That is still several orders of magnitude better than Trump, whose speeches lacked structure, relevance and basic rules of literacy much of the time. They were often rambling and incoherent, and contained obvious falsehoods, or irrelevant asides aimed at settling some perceived slight or vendetta, and they were delivered with a misplaced arrogance which to many sounded ridiculous (just look at the faces and the toe-curling, cringing of those in the press conference when he began rambling about heat, light and injecting bleach as potential cure for COVID) but which to his base gave him a perceived air of strength. So bad were they, that parts of the speech would often later be contradicted, 'clarified' or refuted, such as when he later attempted to dismiss as sarcasm his claims regarding bleach.
In short, it was a shit-show. It was embarrassing and I still have trouble understanding that someone so horribly inarticulate could ever have garnered any sort of following. Because, even when he was telling his base what they wanted to hear, he was delivering it in a garbled and incompetent way.
but you gotta admit sometimes it's hard to even follow what Biden is talking about
I'll give you that, but with Trump it was far, far more often than 'sometimes'. It was all the time. The few times he was a lucid speaker it was actually newsworthy.
That's his schtick though, throwing a lot of charged topics out there every sentence to rile up his base while simultaneously bringing them on such a wild ride that they forget that he was asked a specific question.
Psychologically, it works very well on people who agree with the things you're saying.
Not sure he'd notice the lack of progress on the wall, honestly. He'd make a speech about how how "nobody has built a wall faster than him" or something, and they'd just be building-tearing down-rebuilding the same segment the entire show.
Dude would give a speech on day 3 that we completed the wall ahead of schedule and under budget, thus securing America forever.
But also there's a caravan of Mexican rapists coming to tear down the wall, which they can't possibly do because it's the best wall ever. But he needs to declare martial law and be named emperor for life to stop them.
I’m really liking the “The Good Place” style approach to this. What if we also had everybody he met get super starstruck, but not because of him. Have them all get excited that, as a US president, he must know Obama. Maybe even have an archaic law dug up (by all the Q folks that he riled up) stating that the VP should always be the previous POTUS. Have the Q crowd embrace it whole heartedly, and chant things like Qbama at Trump rallies.
But everytime he goes to sleep for the night, it's taken down. When he asks where the wall is everyone would go "What wall?"
Alternatively - we tell him Mexico keeps stealing the wall. So he has to keep coming up with bigger and crazier security measures to stop Mexico from stealing our wall that all inevitably fail.
Edward James Olmos will be hired to play the President of Mexico and taunt Trump with a palace/casino he's building with the stolen wall parts.
Bonus points for guest starts as shady salesman selling Trump new wacky wall defense ideas.
Until one night he has this dream where someone tells him that to keep the wall from disappearing again overnight it has to be built with a living being encased inside. He settles with the rest of the builders that they shall encase one of their wives; the first to arrive with their packed lunch.
But before starting the day, the other workers tell their wives not to bring their lunch. Only Trump is being honest and fair and tells his wife nothing. So when lunch time arrives, his wife is the only one to show up.
Trump then prays for storms, blizzards, traffic, anything to delay his wife from arriving to the construction site with his lunch. But she's a good wife and stops at nothing to bring her beloved husband his lunch.
Trump feigns joy at seeing her. He takes her on a tour of the construction site. He then places her in a niche inside the wall, and, tears in his eyes, presses himself the button on the machine that pours the cement.
His wife cries her eyes out. "What are you doing? What about our baby?" Trump is devastated. Yet he doesn't stop the construction. He knows finishing the wall is for the greater good, so he sacrifices his wife and unborn child. For if he won't suffer now, America will suffer later.
Lol do you really need to rely on Trump to come up with nicknames? And do you really want a president whose best acomplishment is nicknames and a few one-liners?
Haha yea isn’t it so funny when women and children are trafficked across the border by homicidal drug cartels and the President encourages them? Stupid Trump. Can’t believe he was dumb enough to provide the infrastructure CBP wanted to enforce the law. If only he was smart like Joe Biden.
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u/beardedgamerdad 28d ago
Let him start building the wall. But everytime he goes to sleep for the night, it's taken down. When he asks where the wall is everyone would go "What wall?" This continues for a while until eventually nothing is being built and people keep asking what wall he refers to.
See how fast he goes mentally insane.