r/HermanCainAward HCA Historian Nov 26 '22 Take My Energy 1

Political polarization peer pressured people to pass on procuring proven prophylactic - The peer pressure compilation part 2 Meta / Other

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u/CatsPolitics Team Moderna Nov 26 '22

In what world does “natural immunity” fend off a lethal respiratory virus? Are people so far gone that they don’t understand that Fauci’s specialty is, in fact, immunology, and he’s considered to be among the world’s best? People choosing to disregard established science because they saw a Mercola video just astound me. Never gamble with your health. It’s always a FAFO.

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u/Fabulous-Mud-9114 Team Moderna Nov 26 '22

Look at any of their memes about "natural immunity" and you will very quickly see their understanding of germ theory stopped around 1st or 2nd grade.

They think of the immune system as a muscle that gets stronger after every workout rather than a fallible biological system with strengths and weaknesses for everyone.

And it's not like if you explained this to them, that they would understand. These people are extremely closed minded, especially if it's not another member of the tribe telling them this.

So, to them, Fauci is bad because he said stuff that ran counter to the Gospel of Donald Trump, who had already said before mid-March 2020 that COVID was a "Democrat hoax just like Russia Russia" and it'll "go away" like magic.

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u/CatsPolitics Team Moderna Nov 26 '22

The main problem is that actual science isn’t easily “dumbed down” but snake oil is. Plus American consumers have been primed for years that “natural/organic” is best and there’s zero regulation on claims made about vitamins & supplements. Combine that with the “demoncrats are baby killers” trope plus ongoing anti-vaxx beliefs, and it’s a perfect storm for ignorance to thrive. Well, at least those taking ivermectin will die worm-free.

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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms Nov 27 '22

Especially immunology. The immune system is ridiculously complex. That's why treatments for autoimmune diseases are still sort of blunt instruments. Explaining the immune system to laypeople makes explaining quantum mechanics seem straightforward by comparison.

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u/Lomak_is_watching Nov 27 '22

Another issue I hear too often - the guidance had changed, so experts must not know what they're talking about. Face masks being a prime example, along with vaccine intervals, effective periods, etc.

I respect experts, and people in general, who can absorb new info and have the courage to learn and change their minds. Covid has been a fluid situation requiring different actions at different times. Those changes aren't a gotcha moment. I wonder if those stubborn type thinkers still treat burns with butter.

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u/LM0821 Nov 26 '22

Ironically, the immune system develops up to around age 8, about the same age their overall comprehension developed to.

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u/Sea-Employment2323 Nov 26 '22

I LITERALLY had a nurse at a hospital say that she had “natural immunity” from working with COVID patients. I think about her all the time…

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u/CatsPolitics Team Moderna Nov 26 '22

Before the pandemic my doctor’s office had a nurse who not only refused an annual flu shot but wouldn’t wear a mask (per clinic policy) around patients. I asked my doctor about it (also he was the head of the clinic) and he said he could do nothing about it, so I fired my doctor. I wonder if that nurse is still employed at that clinic.

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u/Sea-Employment2323 Nov 26 '22

If it had been someone in a Drs office I went to… they would be fired from my care 1000%

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u/LM0821 Nov 26 '22

Where I live nurses like that don't have a job anymore (thankfully).

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u/CatsPolitics Team Moderna Nov 26 '22

Fauci is the reason there are patient advocates in drug trials at NIH. You’re a troll who is quoting from a Facebook post that has been proven false. It’s on you to provide the actual evidence of your claim.

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u/DramaticEar6379 Nov 27 '22

You are making extraordinary claims, based on specious, anecdotal evidence. Therefore it is on you to provide evidence. By asking us to do our own dive is a sign of a lazy, narrow-minded, overly gullible troll.

Show us evidence for your bullshit claim.

BTW anecdotal evidence is very unreliable and very susceptible to confirmation bias and embellishment . It is viewed with suspicion by all legitimate academic disciplines.

Yes, I know I waste pixies and time explaining things to a numpty like yourself.

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u/CatsPolitics Team Moderna Nov 26 '22

You spend most of your time in r/conspiracy and you’re here telling us to “deep dive”? Troll.