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Happier cows Shitpost - Removed

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u/Comedyclan 26d ago

How tf does this make economic sense? Talk about milking every penny.

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u/redditvlli 26d ago edited 26d ago

It's fake.

In December of 2019, several media reported that Rusmolco had given its dairy cows virtual reality headsets in a bid to reduce their anxiety and improve productivity. It was reported that the herd donned VR systems adapted for the structural features of cow heads and were shown a unique summer field simulation program to improve the herd's emotional mood. Those reports appeared to be a fake. Rusmolco has nothing to do with the news about using VR for controlling cows' mood, Firsova said.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

The fact that this needs to be posted is disappointing to say the least.

I mean cmon people...

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u/ultrasuperthrowaway 26d ago

Lol you are right, there are so many issues with this

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u/Augustends 26d ago

The weird thing is that when I first saw this image a few days ago my immediate reaction was it was fake. But when I googled it I only saw articles about it being real, including a BBC article, which left me thinking it was real.

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u/Kate_4_President 26d ago edited 25d ago

A lot of ranchers don't care about the cows and beat them, hurt them, neglect them... If they wanna make more money they'd be more cruel. VR monitors with a simulation of green pastures? What a joke!

How do the cows walk, if they are blinded? How much do they cost, that would make their investment pay off? Don't they get broken easily? Who developped the tech?

It just doesn't make sense.

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u/lava_time 26d ago

Remember how much money was dumped into corn ethanol when the math didn't work.

Something doesn't have to be a sane idea to get millions in funding.

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u/Kate_4_President 26d ago

B-but... This is stupid....

I guess you have a point.

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u/Pheonixi3 25d ago

honestly the real giveaway is that animals rely on their other senses so much more vr wouldn't do jack shit.

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u/gophergun 26d ago

Yeah, it's surprising that the BBC didn't seem to make any attempt to verify it.

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u/lava_time 26d ago

This certainly isn't beyond imagination.

I could see it being a grad student project. It would be very difficult to do though.

You'd need a custom headset and software. Which is challenging but individuals have certainly done that before.

Feedback fron the cow wise you'd have to restain them and get base vitals and then train them to be ok wearing the headset. Once you had them used to it you could compare vital readings while restained without the headset and then with it.

It'd probably be a complete failure but a lot of experiments are.

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u/Quark1010 26d ago

Seriously tho. Are vr headsets many times cheaper there or something?!

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u/[deleted] 26d ago edited 26d ago

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

Cow looking forward: “Oh awesome happy grassy fields”

Cow, like any prey animal swivels it’s eyes to check the sides and behind: “I am lost in a sea of blackness, trapped without recourse. I have no means to end this misery”

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u/decorona 26d ago

Fuck, this post was funny

Thank you

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u/mapatric 26d ago

I must moo but have no mouth.

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u/HuntBoston1508 26d ago

Body my holding cell

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/mapatric 26d ago

Uncultured swine.

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u/E6vFu35SpAyxNJ 26d ago

They’re bovines Larry

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u/Bluestar1121 26d ago

“retrad”

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u/finder-and-keeper 26d ago

funfact when a cow bends it's head down to eat grass it can see an almost complete 360° around itself. So VR headsets would be some sort of confusing existential torture.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

So, we should be putting fishbowl helmets on them like Mysterio from Spider-Man?

scribbles down million dollar idea

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u/dmaster1213 26d ago

!subscribed for more cow facts.

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u/TheOtherCoenBrother 26d ago

Mootallica

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

Sleep with one barn door open
Gripping your headset tight

Exit Field
Enter fear
Take my hoof
We’re off to Never Grassland

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u/MoschopsChopsMoss 26d ago

How did you capture decades of life in Russia so precisely?

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

Wisconsin is like diet-Russia.

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u/LukXD99 26d ago

So you’re telling me cows are not predators?

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u/mokujin42 26d ago

That depends are you grass?

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u/LukXD99 26d ago

No, but I do get called a “vegetable” a lot.

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u/DamianWinters 26d ago edited 26d ago

Eye position isn't a sure fire connection, plenty of herbivores have front facing eyes and plenty predators side facing eyes.

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u/Lord_Nivloc 26d ago

Big if true

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u/Sad-Wafer9690 26d ago

Why do you know so much about cows

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u/QueefChiefKeith 26d ago

Who is this man so wise in the ways of cows?

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u/motolabjed 26d ago

Do we dare udder his name?

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u/Mortress_ 26d ago

This isn't only a cow thing. Prey animals usually have eyes on the sides of the head, to better search for predators coming from behind.

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u/H3xag0n3 26d ago

That's also the reason why goats have sideways eyes

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u/FrogInShorts 26d ago

Look at most any prey animal and you'll see they have side eyes. Like Rabbits or horses.

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u/sorynotsorry 26d ago

There's a BBC article on it and it said the headsets have been adapted for the cows' eyes. This is an actual thing, as preposterous as that is.

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u/OkPost4918 26d ago

BBC was fooled, this is fake.

https://www.dairyglobal.net/Milking/Articles/2020/7/Major-Russian-dairy-producer-Rusmolco-expands-606887E/

It was reported that the herd donned VR systems adapted for the structural features of cow heads and were shown a unique summer field simulation program to improve the herd's emotional mood. Those reports appeared to be a fake. Rusmolco has nothing to do with the news about using VR for controlling cows' mood, Firsova said.

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u/OddAward3794 26d ago

Thanks for ruining it for me asshole.

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u/jammerfish 26d ago

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u/gophergun 26d ago

That's just citing the same fake source.

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u/itsmesungod 26d ago

Thank you. I believed it at first and then thought about the costs and the logistics of keeping a Vr headset on a cow, plus the damage of the cow’s eyes, and thought “no fucking way this is real”

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u/DeimosLyric 26d ago

No I'm sad the cows don't get to look at nice summery fields

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u/Apart-Tie-9938 26d ago

You’re telling me the internet lied to me about VR headsets for cows? Damn I can never trust again.

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u/ReverendDizzle 26d ago

Even if you made a headset that worked for a cow... wouldn't it have to be some sort of combination of VR/AR in the first place just so the cow could move correctly in 3D space without freaking the fuck out?

Good luck explaining traditional VR movement strategies and disconnection from your physical bearings to... a cow.

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u/AntonKudin 26d ago

Literally same lighting on the front of both, but they’re oriented differently

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u/justinjustinian 26d ago

Probably a grad student research project for their dissertation. I doubt they are trying to scale it but for publishing the impact a decent set of these with cows on randomized trials should not be too high cost.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

In Russia, it’s probably cheaper to make VR headsets and the availability of year round sunny pastures of negligible. Even summer weather kind of sucks in most of Russia IMO

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u/manfishgoat 26d ago

Eventually the headset will pay for itself if it's actually helping the how produce milk. Aren't vr headsets like 1000 or so dollars?

Edit: vr headsets are like 200bucks.... that's way less than the cow is worth.....

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u/accidentalprancingmt 26d ago

It's bullshit, there is nothing hooked up to the headset, even if we assume it runs on batteries it is still impractical as hell. Googling yields nothing more than this image and a commercial plus a super sketchy video. Nothing on what the cow actually sees, how the hardware works or what it is.

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u/djc6535 26d ago

it's fake. Cow's eyes are nowhere near where they'd need to be for those VR sets to work. Cows eyes are on the sides of their heads

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u/exku 26d ago

And that's clearly not a regular sized VR headset lmao

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u/Deadbringer 26d ago

You would think that if this was real, then between 2019 when it first came out and now there would be more than the original two images and endless "news" articles quouting eachother in a circlejerk to support this being true.

You can find a few more, with a different headset which is even more obviously fake as they didnt care enough to hide the sides. I believe the one pictured here is one of those shitty mobile phone vr glasses. So its large to support a giant flagship phone

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/Deadbringer 26d ago

An article with an entire two paragraphs and 0 sources whatsoever? How could I possibly be sceptical!!!

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u/djc6535 26d ago

Original story is really fishy

the press release says the experiment wasn’t conducted by a university but by “Milknews.ru,” a news site for the Russian dairy industry. It also encourages readers to sign up for the upcoming “VI International Agro-Industrial Dairy Forum” where they can learn more about technology in agriculture. This suggests the VR cows might just be a good way to get attention for an otherwise run-of-the-mill conference. If so: job done.

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u/Coolrafid100 26d ago

Still better than having them live in miserable conditions in factories

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u/MonoShadow 26d ago

They don't need state of the art headsets. Some cheap Chinese phone in a Google Cardboard will do must likely.

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u/arczclan 26d ago

It’s not real, cow’s eyes are on the sides of their heads

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u/HalfSoul30 26d ago

If it's true that milk production has increased, then there will be a point where the investment comes back.

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u/CunningHamSlawedYou madlad 26d ago

Exactly. The amount of milk a cow produce extra due to the VR headset is probably negligible amounts. So equipping 10 000 cows with VRHS for example an extra litre per day is not a balanced trade. But an extra litre per cow per day means 365 litres in a year. The amount of cows multiply this number. So if you have an enormous facility harboring 10 000 cows that's 3 650 000 annually, and in time you'll have earned back the investments. Those money bought themselves back and upped your income by over 5 million annually. And you didn't have to buy another 1000 cows to do it. You didn't have to build out your already capped-on-space facility. You didn't have to hire more workers. It's a brilliantly refined process!

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u/xXDreamlessXx 26d ago

Well, its fake now, but I can see it being useful. If green fields increase milk production, then there would be 2 options. 1) get more land that is an open field, 2) use the headsets. Land could end up being more expensive than land st some point

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u/Liztless 26d ago

It’s not real

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u/jbarms 26d ago

Because if you’re going to put VR headsets on cows, you might as well milk it too. Cha chinggg

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u/Richard_Ballski 26d ago

Its fake, that's how