r/HolUp 26d ago

Happier cows Shitpost - Removed

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u/Faglerwagen 26d ago

That, and having too much empathy for a career in the food industry

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u/StarsDreamsAndMore 26d ago

Nah. Empathy was not involved. This was a result of researched dedicated towards min-maxing profits. All business.

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u/Wrecked--Em 26d ago

yeah if it was about empathy they'd be trying to give them a good environment in the real world instead of developing VR for cows...

this shit is more dystopian than the Matrix because the machines were at least doing the rational thing

humans can't stop irrationally draining our only planet of life

this cow VR is only rational in the narrow view of only maximizing profits, but it comes at the obvious expense of the externalities wasting resources on cow VR instead of making a real pasture ecosystem that can make happy cows, capture carbon, and regenerate topsoil (research the rate of topsoil erosion in the world, it's scary and seriously underreported)

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u/hackerbenny 26d ago

You basically can't run a business like that in modern capitalism.

Your jug of milk will cost three times as much.

There is no milk like that on the shelfs in my country, not even the "ecological" stuff is even close to sustainable.

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u/potatopotato236 26d ago edited 26d ago

Maybe milk should cost what it costs to actually produce, no? There's no real need to subsidize milk through taxes and animal suffering. Maybe then we'd also start respecting our food and those that produce it. Probably won't happen though.

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u/TheLucidCrow 26d ago

You'd have to raise wages so people could afford it, which our capitalist masters would never allow.

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u/Karmasita 26d ago

Or ya know, humans stop drinking cow's milk. Don't get me wrong I love me a glass of whole milk, but it's not really necessary for human survival.

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u/Dantecaine 25d ago

Yeah and you could stop using iPhones and wearing shoes made from slave labor.

...but you won't.

You could actually make a difference for ACTUAL human BEANS but you're stuck on bitching about milk.

This is such a hypocritical take when you're holier than thou attitude is "posted from my iphone" when factory workers are killing themselves just so you can get your data scanned "for cp"

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u/Karmasita 25d ago

You know how I can tell you're full of shit? I don't own an iPhone. Keep talking out of your ass I was just mentioning one type of solution to the fact that people have to put vr headsets on cows.

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u/Dantecaine 21d ago

No but I bet you have a samsung who is just as bad and you wear name brand shoes that weren't manufactured in america aka slave labor.

You know how I know you're full of shit and you don't actually care? Slacktavist?

You could make a smaller change than stopping drinking milk and actually help PEOPLE but you're talking about some fucking cows.

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u/TheLucidCrow 26d ago

What's your point? I could probably survive off cricket paste and lemon water. Should I be forced to live at the level of mere survival?

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u/Karmasita 26d ago

LMAO YOU know that's not what I meant, don't be a jackass. My point is that we can phase out cow's milk and then we don't have to fuck the environment over, make it more expensive, OR put VR on cows. It's a Win win win situation. Phasing out cows milk is not the equivalent of living off absolute basic necessities to the point of starvation. Get a grip.

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u/TheLucidCrow 26d ago

You could say the same about literally any luxury, which is why I don't get your point. Should I refrain from all luxuries because they hurt the environment? Or should we create a society where we produce luxury goods in an environmentally sustainable way? I'll take the latter.

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u/ArmchairCrocodile 26d ago

Waaaaa I’m such a huge fucking baby I literally cannot comprehend the fact that milk is not essential to human life. To me, if I can’t have milk, I’d rather just drink my own piss and eat my own shit than say, drink oat milk, which is vastly more sustainable.

You

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u/Dantecaine 25d ago

"posted from my iphone while I wear slave labor shoes on my slave labor high horse."

Hypocrites.

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u/TheLucidCrow 26d ago

Incel in the making right here.

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u/potatopotato236 25d ago

We could still afford it at 3-4x the price. Wine costs at least 5x as much as milk and many people still buy it. We just wouldn't drink milk like water. We'd instead treat it more like something that takes considerable effort to acquire.