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u/fireinthemountains 17d ago
Hunger is literally one of the drivers of revolt.
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u/jacktrowell 12d ago
There is a reason why the roman had the famous "bread and circuses", the point was to at least give enough for the population that it did not starve.
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u/duggtodeath 17d ago
Letting people starve to death would end up costing you more money than feeding them. Further, all the millions of children that will die, but I am sure dead kids are just foreplay to Nazis like Laura.
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u/bordemthemindkiller 17d ago
Benefits are the cost of doing business. Capitalism requires unemployment for there to be negative pressure on wages. People like igram are just trying to spread hate through propaganda, it's a fucking self defeating argument she's making ffs
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u/duggtodeath 17d ago
She also forgets that unemployment is insurance; your wages pay into it. So she is okay taking money from people without giving anything back? I wonder how she would feel about taxation without representation?
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u/emisneko 17d ago
without a proletarian vanguard party a revolution will result in a new bourgeois faction seizing power
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u/WiseLook 17d ago
A vanguard party is the only way to produce a successful revolution
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u/Fuzzy_Dunnlopp 17d ago
I guess they prefer small scale experiments that were crushed in their infancy because they didn't have the means to defend their revolution. That's always better to have an ideal than a proven method that has improved millions of lives.
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u/Fuzzy_Dunnlopp 17d ago
So what is your plan? I really don't see any other way, otherwise we have a revolution, topple government and then say "now what?" Something infinitely more awful fills that void, that is what.
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u/Ok-Zookeepergame-479 17d ago
This is the part of history that needs to be repeated, show the rich what happens when you exploit enough people
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u/duggtodeath 17d ago
Revolutions require a fucking spine. Americans are too busy thinking that consumerism means they are free and will never revolt.
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u/TinderGameWeakBruh 17d ago
Theyre about to fuck around and find out. I hope yall have been storing "soup".
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u/Corydon_J 17d ago edited 17d ago
Let them eat cake was never actually said but there are a lot of parallels between the French revolution and what is happening today. I thin even more between the revolutions of 1848 and now. Massive wealth disparity, obviously corrupt governments, low pay for long hours in horrid conditions, over taxing of the lower classes, the list goes on.
Edit - just want to add a lot of the 1848 things were present in 1789 as well. Also there were a ton of other factors then the nobility stuffing their faces at the expense of the surfs that caused the revolution. Wish we could learn from our mistakes.
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u/ljheidel 16d ago
The problem here is that the vast majority of Americans (at least currently) only suffer relative deprivation. They don’t know the horrors visited on the French and Russian peasantry. The capitalists are good at keeping us just above that line. But, their greed is so powerful and hubris so great that they’ll eventually forget that One Strange Trick. It looks like that’s very close to happening.
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u/[deleted] 17d ago
But the people did legitimately believe Marie Antoinette had said something along those lines, didn't they? My understanding was she had quite the smear campaign going against her at the time, and she was a huge source of ire for the common people.
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u/Fuzzy_Dunnlopp 17d ago
Turns out fake news and the spread of disinformation is nothing new.. Like this one time I heard about Rod Stewart having to have his stomach pumped.
Certain people have earned a reputation that you could make up a quote and people would be like "Yeah I could see them saying that." Like if a headline came out tomorrow that said "Trump: 'I Invented Lego'" most people would probably believe it because of all the insane shit he says.
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u/condods 17d ago
Why is there so many jobs available, why did the workers leave?
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u/wangyuanji58 17d ago
If only the owners were willing to pay wages that incentivized workers to return.
Job ad: welfare wages, no benefits, long hours and abuse from both managers and customers.
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u/flamingodaphney 17d ago
"What if we just cut off vital goods and services to starve the population of its own free will?"
Sounds like right wing freedom. Their "small government" will always be large with military, and police and laws regulating sex and reproduction, but it is small in its ability to counter the interests of bourgeois ghouls.
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