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u/2lucky4pie 19d ago
Many racist individuals don't admit their racism because they're afraid of the negative consequences. However, they might not be aware of the fact that racism is a form of prejudice.
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u/heckfyre 19d ago
People like my parents legit don’t believe they are racist while supporting politicians who obviously are. They don’t do anything overtly racist themselves, but every political decision they’ve ever made was in support of people who were doing covertly racist things.
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u/nah_champa 19d ago
That is my family too. They like how Trump "spoke his mind," in other words, said the thing they were afraid to say.
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u/OuthouseRedback 19d ago
Do you actually believe that you have never voted fora politician that used race to get votes? Every politician from every point on the political spectrum uses and abuses race to get votes. The right wing will make people on the right afraid of immigrants and minorities while the left wing make sure the people on the left fear Nazi's and white supremacists. every single part of all of that is bullshit from beginning tom end. But yeah, sure, you're right and your parents are ignorant. Have you ever considered that maybe your parents might know more than you?
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u/heckfyre 19d ago
Discriminating against white supremacists isn’t racism. Supporting racist politicians is who support racist policies is racism. I’m glad I found out where you stand on this tho. Jk. I wish you wouldn’t have started talking to me.
I’m certainly smarter than my parents are. Pick a metric, I got em beat.
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u/OuthouseRedback 19d ago edited 19d ago
Discriminating against white supremacists isn’t racism
It is if it is done because they are white, but that is not what i said nor implied. I said politicians use the idea of white supremacy to create fear in the people they think they can get to vote for them, mainly minorities. Despite actual white supremacists being a tiny fraction of 1 percent of the population. They are loud, but minuscule, but leftist politicians would have everyone believe that anyone who voted against them is a Nazi.
I wish you wouldn’t have started talking to me.
And yet you came onto reddit and posted a comment n a public forum, I guess the truth hurts those who live with delusion.
I said your parents were not automatically wrong and they might know more than you. You think that being smart is knowing more, it isn't, it is about how well you use the knowledge you have. You are not smarter than your parents, but every offspring thinks they are until they grow up a bit. Your parents are wiser than you, this interaction and your attitude is proof of that.
The fact that Mountain Dew and Doritos are fucking awesome? M32 neckbeard here. Can confirm that this was always a sick combo. It was popularized by gamers because it objectively rocked.
This confession right here is all I need to know how valueless your opinions on anything are. If you want, I could point out your terrible grammar as you tell me again how you are smarter than your parents. You sure as hell weren't wise enough to know not to share that kind of thing on a public site. But yeah, smarter than your parents are. Pick a metric.You got them beat. The only think you are beating here is your meat. You are truly so blind by your own woke bullshit that you don't even see the lies your politicians puke at you because they know you are dumb enough to believe them. And you completely missed my point from the beginning, All politicians are racists who use racial divisions to shape their rhetoric and polices that get them voted into power. You actually think their are honest ones, that is why you are stupid and naive. But you brush off that Doritos dust and type up another clever response. If you are not too busy telling a 12yr old on call of duty how you fucked their Mom last night.
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u/Remarkable_Street798 19d ago
How about life experience? They are no doubt older than you, after all. And having extra ~20+ years over you certainly counts as they were dealing with life and people in it every day.
I would suggest taking easy on them, you are not responsible for your parents, they were adults a long time ago before you were born and they were adults where they were making you.
Politicians are hardly racists, it makes their work really hard if not impossible. But they do play the racist card a lot and it's quite effective.
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u/mental_heath_bar 19d ago
No no no. First off, just because someone's old doesn't mean they are smart. Analysis is a key part of turning experience into knowledge and most people just don't have this ability.
Second, politicians are people, and people have different belief systems. Racism comes from a combination of fear and ignorance, and to pretend that politicians are immune from those is naive at best.
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u/Remarkable_Street798 19d ago
But also just because someone is old doesn't mean they are stupid, right? I'm not claiming either of those, all I'm saying is old people are more experienced - they lived more days. Experience is based on memory, not on intelligence.
Making knowledge from experience is certainly helpful if your task is to teach somebody else as sharing the experience is very hard to be done, yet you can teach knowledge in many ways - lecture, book, course, normal human conversation, etc.
I'll give you an example. Let's say you have a dog and the dog finds out the hot stove is bad for him to touch. He has the experience that touching a hot stove is a no-go, but he might not be able to extract knowledge that there are a plethora of other hot things working the same way. Still, this experience is helpful to his life as it will steer him out of the injury in the kitchen.
Sure, some people have the ability to turn it into knowledge providing higher value and consciousness. But everybody has the ability to learn from experience. (Unless you have health issues with your memory, of course)
It would be wise to ask the poster's parents about their life experience and possibly understand and extract knowledge from it rather than:
I’m certainly smarter than my parents are. Pick a metric, I got em beat.
As for the second part, I'm not claiming that politicians are immune to racism at all. I would invite you to reread my previous post, extract the knowledge from it and share it here with us.
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u/mental_heath_bar 19d ago
Politicians are hardly racists, it makes their work really hard if not impossible
I reread your post and I've come to the conclusion that you're either bad at communicating your true feelings or trying to pivot after being called out.
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u/The_Imperator_of_Red 19d ago
Why do I get the feeling you have a very broad view of “racist politicians” and black and white view of politics. Voting for someone you think is racist doesn’t make your parents racist. The fact that they don’t act racist in their personal lives-even when they are safe from public scrutiny should be a clue.
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u/GNU_Yorker 19d ago
Because not every racist event is a modern movie where the character literally goes "He he he, skin wrong color to [do this thing well]."
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u/Learningdoesntend 19d ago
Most people won’t admit to a sin they possess regardless of what the sin is.
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u/Maranne_ 19d ago
You get a lot of shit for admitting to it, so it's easier to pretend it was just a one time slip up.
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u/rvngelorde 19d ago
You get canceled and everybody hates you. A lot of “less extreme” views are also rarely mentioned because everybody turns against you instead of listening to you.
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u/sikokilla 19d ago
Believe it or not most people are not racist. The racist narrative is being used to drive apart the nation and unfortunately it is working. If they keep us divided then it is easier to control us and pass laws without us paying attention. The only way to fix this problem is to drop our “differences” and pull together against those in “power”.
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u/Pavlovsspit 19d ago
Sorry, but that's a stupid question. Most people are aware they have biases but aren't going to broadcast it from the highest peak, regardless what it is. I'm sure they admit their true feelings to those they trust, just as you'd do too.
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u/slash178 19d ago
Actual self-examination and changing your behavior is hard. It's easier for racists to simply enter into full-fledged denial, encouraged by right-wing politics e.g. "it's just a JOKE" or Trump saying blatantly racist things and then "I'm the LEAST racist person".
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u/OuthouseRedback 19d ago
The better question is why do racists constantly accuse others of racism and bigotry thinking it will cover their own?
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u/yakusokuN8 NoStupidAnswers 19d ago
In their minds, if EVERYONE calls someone racist and a bigot, then it's like a murder mystery game:
"Well, everybody's a suspect, so we can't really be sure who murdered her. Maybe I'm a murderer and maybe you are one. It could be anyone. Maybe we just don't call anyone a murderer?"
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u/OuthouseRedback 19d ago
Maybe there is very little real murder in the first place and fractional people can't tell the difference between a slap in the face and being shot in the head.
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u/thesamiad 19d ago
I think it’s a very sweeping statement to call someone racist,there are those who are outwardly racist,those that see it as normal and not an issue(usually the very old)then there’s those that seek to hurt others,there are different levels of racism and when someone gets called it they automatically assume you mean the worst level x
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u/Lamballama 19d ago
1) the belief that racism has to be overt
2) the belief that racism can't be based on facts and logic
3) the belief that racism is just whatever they find unacceptable
4) the belief that the other side is the real racists
5) the belief that the media acceptance behaviors of other races create permission for their own (eg, Israeli comments about not letting in African refugees because they're a plague)
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u/RoadTheExile Certified Techpriest 19d ago
Because in their mind they aren't, they don't hate other groups for no reason, they just are aware of certain facts. Bunk facts mind you which given context don't prove anything, but that's how their minds work. "I don't hate black people, I just know that their kind is way more prone to violence and crime.. and their culture is bad and teaches everyone to be thugs and welfare queens"
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u/Significant_Survey_3 19d ago
Because it can ruin you if people find out. It can get you fired and make you unhirable. Why don't pedophiles admit that they are attracted to children?
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u/ScreamingFly 19d ago
I wonder this too. And I also wonder how far-right politicians/parties would do if they openly stated that they're fascists
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u/AnarchistWhiskey 19d ago
Racists know society thinks they’re pieces of shit. So they keep it to themselves or get otherwise crushed. Civilized people have no sympathy for bigots.
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u/OneTrippyTurtle 19d ago
The more of them bundled together like in the south, the less they actually realize how racist they are. Like minded individuals you know. They think u have to be pro slavery to be racist pretty much. It's very frustrating to see how far BACK we've gone. It's awful.
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u/sikokilla 19d ago
If you think that is the issue then you are extremely misinformed. Have you ever been to the “south”. Race is the least of the problems we have. I spend a lot of time traveling this beautiful country of ours and the most “racist” areas are the ones north of the mason dixon line and closer to the pacific coast. And believe it or not the racism 8 times out of 10 is black against white. Not everyone against black like everyone would want you to believe.
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u/OneTrippyTurtle 19d ago
Lol I was born and raised in AR Left for NY when I was 19 for 5 yrs then went to Cali for 6. Mos and then Miami/South Beach for another 6 mos and then came back to Ar for the last 15 yrs so yes I have and AM. And from my own family to the vast others I've met in my 40 yrs it IS NOT worse In the north or on the coast. I grew up these same racist asshats spewing their conscious AND unconscious racist rhetoric and beliefs. So I know more than most. NY was not racist and my office was in the middle of a ghetto, and like all poor neighborhoods (white and Black) crime is higher but I experienced no racism and I worked in nightclubs and bars of all kinds. Cali was even nicer except my trip to Oakland. Poor and desperate city. Florida was fun except for the vast drug culture, but no racism from my experience, but I hear of racism against blacks in small towns. So I'm not speaking from an assumption I'm speaking from experience. And yes education is where the south really needs help. That would solve alot. Teaching critical thinking is the main goal.
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u/LightTheEnd 19d ago
Because they are too busy doing the mental gymnastics required to claim they are being discriminated against.
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u/mikey_weasel 19d ago
Because most people understand racist=bad person. And a lot of the time people don't want to admit they could be a bad person. So they come up with rationales about how they arent