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u/Pardonme23 May 27 '22
More like convention buildings don't allow guns due to insurance policies. But don't let logic get in the way.
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u/bruwin May 27 '22
I've been in plenty of "convention buildings" that have hosted gun shows.
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u/Pardonme23 May 27 '22
Great. How many non gun shows events have allowed guns in?
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u/bruwin May 27 '22
Sorry, but no. You are not going to shift the goalposts like that. You aren't going to be disingenuous. You were wrong. Accept that you were wrong, sit down, and shit the fuck up.
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u/caniplayalso May 26 '22
There are no nut jobs breaking into a Donald trump rally.....they all already inside after buying tickets
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u/sunny5724 May 26 '22
They didn't have to under Trump, he was ready to hand it over.
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u/KnowAnyMormonBabes May 26 '22
Proof? I’ll wait
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u/WimpyLimpet May 26 '22
What was Trump's first impeachment for?
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u/KnowAnyMormonBabes May 26 '22
A nothingburger. No charges stuck
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u/FreedomsPower May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22
lol it wasn't a nothing burger. The Republican memebers refused to do their constitutional duty .
nice try though
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u/WimpyLimpet May 27 '22
A nothingburger. No charges stuck
Because, as you know, Republicans refused to see/hear any evidence or hold a trial. Instead of letting the truth come out in a court of law, they chose to obstruct. Why? Because they knew Trump was guilty.
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u/Vukomanovich33 May 27 '22
“No charges stuck” because Donald Trump was essentially his own jury. He told the GOP to look the other way, and being a bunch of little lap dogs, they did just that.
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u/Russki_Troll_Hunter May 26 '22
It also didn't happen under the presidents before trump, but sure, sick/dying Putin chose to attack Ukraine and threaten NATO allies with nukes if they choose to intervene, so definitely Bidens fault...
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u/KnowAnyMormonBabes May 26 '22
It actually happened when Biden was VP in 2014 😬
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u/rmorrin May 27 '22
Damn you guys really will grasp at literally anything you can. More Americans died under trump than any other president
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u/sarcastic_patriot May 26 '22
But aren't those the supposed good guys with guns?!? Why ban them? He should be so goddamn safe there!
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u/nexusx86 May 27 '22
Wasn't up to him it was actually demanded that no guns be in the auditorium during his talk by secret service.
Before I get voted down let it be known that I hate the NRA, my senator Rafael Cruz, Governor Abbott and the orange criminal.
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u/T1mac May 27 '22
Trump doesn't have to listen to the Secret Service. He can do what he wants.
What he wants is a gun free zone.
"take the guns first, go through due process second...I like taking the guns early.."
- Trump
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u/The_Funkybat May 27 '22
If Trump seriously wanted to throw a curveball into the entire upcoming presidential race, he would get on that stage at the NRA conference and loudly declare that he supports enacting limited restrictions on who can own certain firearms and confiscation of firearms from people deemed an imminent threat. Make a big show of how much he loves innocent little children and wants to protect them. Then stick with that position even after he’s booed off of the stage.
Just imagine how much that would disrupt the entire narrative about him being a right wing monster. Of course he would still be a right wing monster in every other way, but it would be a very clever play to zig when everyone is expecting him to zag. If he stuck with that through the next two years and made himself seem like the best option to get gun laws on the books, he just might win the presidency again, even if there were a bunch of butthurt gun clinging Republicans who wouldn’t vote for him because they love their guns more than even Donald Trump. There are probably a lot of these fools out there who actually love Donald Trump even more than guns.
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u/GTOfire May 27 '22
No left-winger would believe him or the idea that it would even be up to him to make it happen. Hell even the extreme right-wing would vote for him, trusting in the plan that he's just doing it to confuse the lefties.
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u/Gamiac May 27 '22
I could easily buy Trump being privately anti-gun, since it can so easily be tied to his own racism through gang violence and stuff like the Black Panthers during his more formative years. But I think he understands by now that he could never hope to go against his base on this, so he'll never change his mind in a way that matters.
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u/superfucky May 27 '22
It would be more believable that he's anti gun purely because he's terrified of blood.
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u/kandoras May 27 '22
I could easily buy Trump being privately anti-gun, since it can so easily be tied to his own racism through gang violence and stuff like the Black Panthers during his more formative years.
That private opinion isn't too far from the NRA's public one. They blamed Philando Castile for his own murder.
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u/The_Funkybat May 27 '22
It’s not that I think Trump would fool very many liberals, or any at all. But I think what he would do if he chose to go that route is get some of these squishy “both parties suck and I hate politicians“ type swing voters to possibly give him another chance if they are disgusted with how gun access continues to make these mass shootings inevitable.
Trump will never win the popular vote in this country, when I was theorizing was how he might be able to pick up just enough votes to legitimately win the electoral college again.
Keep in mind I don’t want any of this to happen, because I consider Trump getting reelected to be the equivalent of a meteor hitting the planet. I was just theorizing that it would be such an unexpected move that it would derail a lot of the easy vilification of Trump that he himself has made inevitable with his obviously evil actions. It would also be kind of interesting to see the GOP base go through contortions trying to simultaneously cling to their guns and cling to anti-gun Trump.
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u/GTOfire May 27 '22
Perhaps, but the swing voters are probably also the ones who would recognize that the president can't make any of that happen. That takes the house and the senate.
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u/Bradidea May 27 '22
Donald trump is a spoiled millionaire member of the NYC elitist crowd that is disgusted by most of his supporters and what they stand for. He simply figured out which demographic was easier to manipulate to pave his path to power.that being said privately he is still a piece of shit.
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u/The_Funkybat May 27 '22
Exactly. I’m just fascinated by the possibilities if he started to actively go against one of his mob’s cherished issues, while still being completely racist and fascist and everything else they love about him. I’m willing to bet that even some of these Second Amendment obsessed creeps would lay down their guns if it meant Donald Trump back in charge, because ultimately they embrace fascism more than freedom.
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u/kandoras May 27 '22
If he stuck with that through the next two years and made himself seem like the best option to get gun laws on the books,
Absolutely no one who wants more protections against school shootings would believe him for one second.
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u/The_Funkybat May 27 '22
I would say if there is a fair number of right leaning culturally conservative people out there who are not firm believers in the cult of the gun. They might be all in on meddling with women’s bodies, for avoiding all taxation, or “keeping foreigners from overtaking America”, but not necessarily OK with continued random mass slaughter.
It’s those conservatives who I think might buy into such a Trump scam, since they already like him and aren’t single issue gun voters. Kind of like liberals who are single issue on abortion or civil rights, but willing to vote for bankster-backed blue dog Dems.
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u/kandoras May 27 '22
Right leaning culturally conservative people who are all in on meddling with women's bodies are going to vote (R) no matter whose name is next to it, or whatever other policies that person might have.
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u/The_Funkybat May 27 '22
Not necessarily. A sizable number of those people who are otherwise conservative, but got tired of the dangerous Trump insanity, voted for Biden or simply didn’t vote for president at all in 2020.
What I’m talking about is something that theoretically could trick some of them into giving Trump another chance even if they had declared themselves done with him.
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u/nexusx86 May 27 '22
Not entirely sure he gets a say if he wants that secret service protection. I could be wrong but that could have been their 'one and only offer'
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u/ContemptuousPrick May 27 '22
Before I get voted down....
]nexusx86 38 points 9 hours ago
litterally NEVER fails. never.
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u/dadtaxi May 27 '22
1) He could decline secret service wishes. That's his prerogative
2) No one is forcing them to have Trump there - let alone with those conditions
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u/ShadowSlayerGP May 26 '22
I thought more guns = more safety? I guess that’s only until it’s their safety
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u/MRHarville May 27 '22
- No, it's 'more guns, more safeties'. You see it individual weapon has at least one 'safety' mechanism.
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u/Pardonme23 May 27 '22
More like convention buildings don't allow guns due to insurance policies. But don't let logic get in the way.
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u/rocket_randall May 27 '22
Donald Trump? The guy who once said he would run, unarmed, into an active shooter situation to rescue the kids? That guy? Can't believe he doesn't feel safe when he's surrounded by his well-armed very fine people.
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u/MRHarville May 27 '22
- That fat fuck couldn't run to the end of the driveway.
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u/williamfbuckwheat May 27 '22
The only time I saw him move fast was that time they thought a guy was trying to attack him at a campaign rally years ago.
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u/Pardonme23 May 27 '22
More like convention buildings don't allow guns due to insurance policies. But don't let logic get in the way.
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u/LegitSince8Bits May 27 '22
So you're under the impression or making the implication if it was outside in an area where guns are permitted that Donald Trump would surround himself with thousands of armed nutcases? That's a thing you think would happen in real life? Cause I was under the impression after J6 that he thought of his base as low rent dirty slobs and that doesn't sound like someone he would trust with his life.
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u/rocket_randall May 27 '22
What logic are you bringing to the table? Perhaps a minute's worth of research would show you that:
- Texas law as of Sept 1, 2021 allows anyone who can legally own a gun can carry a handgun in public without any additional license.
- The NRA is perfectly ok with you bringing your gun but not your dog to their convention.
- The only restrictions on carry are at the behest of the Secret Service in the General Assembly Hall when Trump is present, as the USSS claims jurisdiction.
Imagine proud Texans cheerfully allowing their 2A rights to be infringed upon by a federal law enforcement agency in exchange for the opportunity to listen to a bloated windbag tell them that they need to uphold the 2A above all else so that they alone can defend the republic from those cheatin' dems and their critical race theory. Say what you want about Trump, but the man knows a bunch of suckers when he sees them.
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u/CregChrist May 26 '22
You'd think that would be the safest place for everyone to have a gun as long as there's no reason you think anyone would want to murder you.
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u/Squirrel_Chucks May 27 '22
But if guns are outlawed at the NRA convention then that means only the outlaws will have guns!
That means that former President Trump could be in danger!
Damn, and we only have like a few days to chill out before we need to tell someone...maybe...eh, forget the whole thing
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u/DoubleGunzChippa May 27 '22
But wait, Republicans said "more guns = more safety".
Surely you're not suggesting that a republican lied, are you!?
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u/williamfbuckwheat May 27 '22
Isn't it funny how their so-called solution would also just happen to boost profits dramatically for gun manufacturers as well and create a steady stream of additional revenue for them indefinitely???
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u/throway_nonjw May 27 '22
The 2nd Amendment... is an AMENDMENT!!
Surely, surely, it can be amended too!
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u/justlooking128 May 27 '22
I don’t know why they bother banning guns. It’s useless. Nothing can be done. They should rely on old trusty thoughts and prayers.
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u/PrimaryAd822 May 27 '22
Protect a 300 pound bag of republican excrement but leave your children wide open for attacks. Seems backwards to me but who am I?
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u/williamfbuckwheat May 27 '22
Well, that's obviously the CRT loving teachers fault because they won't pay for guns, ammo, training and Kevlar blankets out of their own pockets (since taxpayers never would) to protect their students !!1!1!!!1 /s
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u/Cacklefester May 27 '22 edited May 28 '22
But what about our 2nd Amendment remedies? This would have been a perfect opportunity to put them to the test.
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u/Conscious_Figure_554 May 27 '22
You mean Republicans who are in the pocket of gun lobbyist can protect a child. They just don’t want to because their bribes are too much for them to give up.
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u/TheMightyPrince May 27 '22
It really is terrible that the police didn't go in and try and save those children.
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u/captaincinders May 27 '22
But how are they going to stop a bad guy with a gun. I mean if you take the guns away from good guys, then only the bad guys will have guns, right? Right?
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u/loondawg May 27 '22
Apparently they're making the point the people attending the NRA convention are bad guys.
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u/captaincinders May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22
Wait, you mean removing guns makes the place safer? Huh, how 'bout that.
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u/Lamnent May 27 '22
That is totally fucking nuts.
Same people screaming for MORE guns to be in schools are banning them from their rallies for their protection.
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u/Linnie46 May 27 '22
Proving that the NRA values Donald Trump’s life over the lives of children. Blech.
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u/MuchGiraffe7356 May 27 '22
But guns don’t kill people remember? So you should ban the people from attending.
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u/reddit_name_taker May 27 '22
Well guns are also banned from school, this isn't very relevant
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u/loondawg May 27 '22
Except the NRA pushes the narrative that arming teachers is a solution to school shootings. If they think it would work in schools it should also work here. In fact, with so many guns it should be one of the safest places to be.
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u/BackupChallenger May 27 '22
Guns are banned at schools if I remember correctly?
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u/loondawg May 27 '22
And the NRA says arming teachers is a solution to school shootings if I remember correctly.
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u/WallStreetPhysicist May 27 '22
On 24 May 2022 President Biden Wrote:
As a nation we must ask: When in God's name will we stand up to the gun lobby?
When in God's name will we do what needs to be done?
I'm sick and tired of it. We have to act.
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u/deepstate_chopra May 27 '22
It's a bit early, but I can't think of another "National _____ Association convention. _____ is prohibited.'
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u/throway_nonjw May 27 '22
I think if someone shows up, gets a gun in there, and shoots the place up, we'll see gun law changes PDQ.
Not advocating for that, just pointing out (again) the hypocrisy.
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u/Parkyguy May 27 '22
To be fair -- that would be an ideal venue for a mass shooting by a parent who lost a child.
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u/thedeadlysun May 27 '22
So, I agree it’s hypocritical and all, but y’all do know that guns are banned on school campuses as well right? Like, that’s not the issue here. This is picking the wrong dog in the fight, we should be going after the NRA as a whole, stop focusing on the gun ban at their conference. This is what is meant when people say democrats go after the wrong issues and shoot themselves in their foot every time.
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u/SergioLuisLopez May 27 '22
All that is true. But one has to remember that the lives of Mexican children have no value to the moral degenerates in power. A well regulated militia means letting all gringos buy machine guns to murder school children, especially if they are Mexican babies. And to the point of arresting Mexican parents of the slaughtered babies who wanted to go in and save their children. Gringos have no bottom when it comes to being vase and vile.
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u/wendyspeter May 27 '22
Can you make jokes about a former twice impeached president getting shot? I guess some things are sacred in the United States lol...
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u/DaxCyro May 28 '22
It got even better. Said child said that gun-free zones doesn't work, from inside a gun-free zone. Plus suggested turning school into virtual prisons (armed guards, walled in), and fire hazards (single point of entry).
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u/Pardonme23 May 27 '22
More like convention buildings don't allow guns due to insurance policies. But don't let logic get in the way.
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u/CatumEntanglement May 27 '22
But wait, Republicans said "more guns = more safety". Surely you're not suggesting that a republican lied, are you!?
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u/mercfan3 May 27 '22
Look, Trump was one of the worst presidents of all time.
But he personally believes in a lot of things Dems believe in. Including gun control, masks and vaccines, and abortions..it’s why he donated to Dems.
It’s just he’s also a narcissist authoritarian criminal who is, at best, being black mailed by Putin..
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u/Mrgigs25 May 26 '22
Wait I don’t get it what’s going on?
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u/Dcajunpimp May 27 '22
One of the groups most likely to whine and cry like a toddler with it's stuffed bear taken away, when they aren't allowed to have their guns, won't be allowed to have their guns with them. Apparently its hypocritically okay in this instance for reasons.
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u/restore_democracy May 27 '22
THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
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u/BigCountry454 May 27 '22
So you believe that just because they are told to that magically 100% of attendees will follow the rules?
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u/Constant_Yak_3195 May 28 '22
They were banned in schools too. Dumbass.
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u/Constant_Yak_3195 23d ago
Lol cry about it
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u/bodhisoma May 27 '22
Tons of people are trying to argue the gun ban isn’t hypocritical because it’s being imposed by Secret Service and so it’s out of Trump’s hands.
Fact is, ex-presidents can waive Secret Service protection.
From the Secret Service's own website:
Carter waived Secret Service protection. And Nixon. And Ford.
So these folks aren’t only hypocrites but terrible liars to boot. Unfortunately, that seems to be a selling point to their base.