Because, regardless of what anyone says, there is no long term data on the safety of this particular mRNA vaccine because it was approved under emergency authorization and is a completely new form of vaccine type. That coupled with all the reports of people experiencing heart palpitations, irregular periods, and other severe symptoms is cause to believe they may not be as safe as we are being told. Combine that with theories that the vaccinated could suffer from Antibody-dependent enhancement and you are really gambling with your health over a virus with a 99.6% survival rate for most people. Not to mention there have been something like 12,000 fatalities in the VAERS database attributed to this vaccine... more than deaths from all vaccines over the past 20 years combined. You're better off taking supplements, exercising, and keeping your body healthy rather than freaking out because the TV told you to.
Mrna vaccines have been used for almost 20 years in animals and have eliminated 2 other corona viruses and 3 deadly diseases. How ever you are correct this is the human trial that is required so we didnt lose half the population on the planet again. But hey you can keep taking your vitamins and pretending ita gonna all be ok. Just do it at home where no one has to deal with you.
They did not, and that's why they are widely used. I feel you're going to to drop this argument when I tell you that, while similar, the technology behind COVID vaccines is not exactly the same as veterinary variants. Pfizer and Moderna vaccines use virus-like-particles (VLP), which have already been used in fully approved vaccines against HPV and Hepatitis B.
Aida V., et al. Novel Vaccine Technologies in Veterinary Medicine: A Herald to Human Medicine Vaccines. Front. Vet. Sci., 15 April 2021 |
https://doi.org/10.3389/fvets.2021.654289
Care to provide a peer-reviewed source to back up your claim?
More than 346 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 2, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,490 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if itâs unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
6,490 deaths, thatâs 0.0019% of vaccinated individuals. And the vaccine may not even be the causes of all those deaths when you have a sample size that large.
The virus is in the same family of viruses as the cold and the flu.
That's not true. Covid-19 is in the coronaviridae family while the flu is in the orthomyxoviridae family and the most common strain for the common cold is in the picornaviridae family.
There are multiple prominent doctors and researchers voicing concern
Then you proceed to not name nor cite any of them.
"Why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective having an outbreak in the middle of the summer when respiratory viral syndromes don't do that? And to understand that, you need to understand the condition that is called antibody mediated viral enhancement."
I have a work colleague in hospital on life support after his lungs filled with fluid less than 24hrs after his 2nd jab. Wonât see that on the news though! Guy was perfectly healthy until he had his 2nd dose of the vaccine!
Interesting. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines consist of a DNA snippet that is wrapped in lipid molecules. The sniper represents the spike proteins on the virus. The lipid wrapper is why it has to be stored in deep freezers.
It is true that very rare adverse cases occur, they occur with ANYTHING that we introduce to our bodies. But if we lived our lives based on the worst case scenarios, we would never get anything done.
Cases like your friend are not reported in the news because they are 1 in 10,000,000 and not worth reporting in public news.
I promise you, those cases ARE tracked by Medical Professionals.
Your coworker's embolism was not caused by the vaccine. The Pfizer vaccine could not trigger the rare thrombosis that could develop pulmonary embolism. That was linked exclusively to the Astrazeneca and J&J vaccines, and women in particular.
There is a plausible causal relationship between J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse eventâblood clots with low platelets (thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, or TTS). However, after reviewing all available safety data, CDC and FDA recommend use of this vaccine resume in the United States given that the known and potential benefits outweigh the known and potential risks.
This adverse event is rare, occurring at a rate of about 7 per 1 million vaccinated women between 18 and 49 years old. For women 50 years and older and men of all ages, this adverse event is even more rare.
He hasnât got an embolism, he developed a huge fluid build up in his chest less than 24hrs after his second jab and was rushed to hospital. Currently no one is updating any of us with his situation, itâs all being kept quiet. Iâm sorry but you can all have blind faith in these vaccines but not all of us are like that.
I do not trust them and would rather not put unnecessary drugs inside my body. Saying that though I will have the vaccine within the next month and this is to protect my livelihood because its clear now there are too many hysterical weirdos out there who will never give up until every unvaccinated person is unemployed and living in poverty due of their choice not to have it. Iâve had covid twice and barely a cough each time, had worse hangovers to be honest.
You either believe in human rights or you donât. You canât just throw them out the window for a largely minor illness. Once theyâre gone theyâre gone and we wonât be getting them back.
Not sure where in the world youâre from but I believe in something called freedom of choice! Let me explain. I literally have the tail end of a covid infection right now, barely a cough and a slightly high temperature, had worse hang overs to be honest and I havenât had the vaccine.
I have a friend at work who is currently on life support because after having his second jab last week he had a very bad reaction and his chest filled with fluid putting pressure on his vital organs. May be related to the vaccine⊠may not, but you wonât see it in the news I know that much! đ
I am not anti vaccine⊠I will probably have it eventually but I would appreciate having the choice rather than being forced into it through fear of poverty đđ»
Remember when Trump was president and started operation warp speed, and everyone said they would never get a vaccine that was rushed so recklessly? My how that tune has changed.
Forced medication is also perhaps the biggest red line to cross. What's next, forced mental health medication to make sure there are less shootings?
No it's the complete opposite - everyone anti-Trump was anti vaccine, because he was rushing them (the old 'pro choice crowd). Now, everyone anti-Trump is pro vaccine even though they are still rushed and still from Trump's Warp Speed project. You also see a lot of the opposite where Trump supporters were pro Vaccine then switched when Biden came in (your new 'pro choice' crowd).
I really wish people would stop and think a bit more. You see this sort of flipping all over the world on all sorts of issues, like refugees going into Europe being all about inalienable human rights, until now because they are coming through Belarus so fuck 'em. The global population has seemingly been successfully divided along political lines.
âTrumpâ had nothing nothing to do with vaccine development other than allowing the funding for it to pass. That shit tried to deny that COVID-19 was a problem. He wanted to leave people on their cruise ship so âour numbers wonât go upâ. How shallow can a human being be?
I remember that there was some concern with his political appointees in various departments potentially getting in the way of straight scientific research and trying to push odd ball treatments (Hydroxychloroquine anyone) or him suggesting UV lights be used âin the body, somehowâ. âI told my people to Slow down testing so there wonât be as many casesâ.
Trump actually got in the way more than he helped the whole process.
But he DOES deserve some credit for letting the process get started. Not that he could have actually prevented it.
We have laws to stop people driving into crowds last time I checked. If the people I encounter are so bothered about covid then its their decision to protect themselves with a vaccine.
Then you're being inconsistent with what you just said. You literally said that limiting people's freedom of driving drunk is ok because we have laws against that is ok, but limiting people's freedom of spreading a deadly disease by making a laws isn't ok.
Iâm saying you canât compare the two things. Drink driving is completely different, someone has to actively drink and put themselves into a dangerous position and there are laws against it. Going to a public space when youâre unvaccinated puts no one in danger because its a 99.7% survivable virus and if anyone there is so terrified of covid or is either vulnerable or old then they have the option of getting themselves vaccinated. Iâm not anti-vaccination, Iâm anti forced vaccination and coming out with crap like its the same as drink driving is just another way to try and shame people into it. There are people out there who legitimately canât have the vaccine for multiple reasons. Should they live like hermits and never be allowed to leave the house?
I mean, there are no simple answers. It needs to be justified, people always pull out the "slippery slope" argument, but we're able to do a pretty good job as a society doing case by case sceneriors.
An employer has no buisiness mandating vaccines or requiring proof if they are capable of having the option for employees working from home for example.
Travel, hospitals, retirement homes... places that are high risk or could cause inter-regional spread would probably need it. Possibly places like Gyms which would allow it to spread more easily. Dentists etc.
Businesses should be able to ask for it freely from customers though. If I open a private hair salon, and I shouldn't be forced to cut hair for someone unvaccinated if it makes me feel unsafe.
I don't think anyone is adocating for checkpoints.
I honestly donât think you know how vaccines work. I donât claim to be an expert but the vaccine protects the vaccinated person. Why on Earth would a vaccinated hair dresser be bothered whether or not a customer is vaccinated? They worried about catching covid or something? F*ck me Iâm literally sitting here with covid and Iâve had worse hangovers. Itâs a very minor illness, rather have the flu jab to be honest thatâs hit me far worse than this. Saying that though if I was old or vulnerable I wouldâve been vaccinated⊠like my parents have but again it should be a choice and not a requirement for any work.
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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21
So, stupidity ISNâT limited to the US? Iâm shocked I tell you ⊠SHOCKED!!