r/PublicFreakout Aug 07 '21

Large protests are underway in Paris and many other cities in France against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations. 😷Pandemic Freakout

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

So, stupidity ISN’T limited to the US? I’m shocked I tell you … SHOCKED!!

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

What’s stupid about it?

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

If you don’t have a health reason to not take a vaccine, why would you not take it?

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

Not sure where in the world you’re from but I believe in something called freedom of choice! Let me explain. I literally have the tail end of a covid infection right now, barely a cough and a slightly high temperature, had worse hang overs to be honest and I haven’t had the vaccine.

I have a friend at work who is currently on life support because after having his second jab last week he had a very bad reaction and his chest filled with fluid putting pressure on his vital organs. May be related to the vaccine… may not, but you won’t see it in the news I know that much! šŸ˜‚

I am not anti vaccine… I will probably have it eventually but I would appreciate having the choice rather than being forced into it through fear of poverty šŸ‘šŸ»

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

Where does that attitude stop?

Is it OK for someone to get sloppy drunk and drive their car through town at high speed?

It’s a matter of personal choice, as you say.

The problem with your point of view is it doesn’t take into account your impact on people you encounter.

Your freedom of choice cannot infringe on someone else’s freedom of choice.

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u/Sea-Hornet-9140 Aug 07 '21

Remember when Trump was president and started operation warp speed, and everyone said they would never get a vaccine that was rushed so recklessly? My how that tune has changed.

Forced medication is also perhaps the biggest red line to cross. What's next, forced mental health medication to make sure there are less shootings?

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

I’m not clear what your point is.

Seems to me, the same people that complained about ā€œrushedā€ vaccines then are the same people crying about ā€œpersonal choiceā€ today.

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u/Sea-Hornet-9140 Aug 07 '21

No it's the complete opposite - everyone anti-Trump was anti vaccine, because he was rushing them (the old 'pro choice crowd). Now, everyone anti-Trump is pro vaccine even though they are still rushed and still from Trump's Warp Speed project. You also see a lot of the opposite where Trump supporters were pro Vaccine then switched when Biden came in (your new 'pro choice' crowd).

I really wish people would stop and think a bit more. You see this sort of flipping all over the world on all sorts of issues, like refugees going into Europe being all about inalienable human rights, until now because they are coming through Belarus so fuck 'em. The global population has seemingly been successfully divided along political lines.

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

ā€œTrumpā€ had nothing nothing to do with vaccine development other than allowing the funding for it to pass. That shit tried to deny that COVID-19 was a problem. He wanted to leave people on their cruise ship so ā€œour numbers won’t go upā€. How shallow can a human being be?

I remember that there was some concern with his political appointees in various departments potentially getting in the way of straight scientific research and trying to push odd ball treatments (Hydroxychloroquine anyone) or him suggesting UV lights be used ā€œin the body, somehowā€. ā€œI told my people to Slow down testing so there won’t be as many casesā€.

Trump actually got in the way more than he helped the whole process.

But he DOES deserve some credit for letting the process get started. Not that he could have actually prevented it.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

I literally never heard of people being anti-vax because of them not liking Trump.

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u/Sea-Hornet-9140 Aug 08 '21

Then you literally never talked to any anti-Trump people about the Covid vaccine while he was president.

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

We have laws to stop people driving into crowds last time I checked. If the people I encounter are so bothered about covid then its their decision to protect themselves with a vaccine.

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

So should we have law requiring vaccinations? Oh wait, we already DO! You can’t send a child to school without them!

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

In what country is that law?

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

We have laws to stop people driving into crowds last time I checked.

So you think we should have laws preventing people going in public spaces when they aren't vaccinated?

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u/Paul2777 Aug 08 '21

Nah I think unvaccinated people like myself should be able to go anywhere

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

Then you're being inconsistent with what you just said. You literally said that limiting people's freedom of driving drunk is ok because we have laws against that is ok, but limiting people's freedom of spreading a deadly disease by making a laws isn't ok.

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u/LogicAnswers Aug 08 '21

limiting people's freedom of spreading a deadly disease by making a laws isn't ok

But you are not limiting the spread with the vaccine.

Already proven, already publicly admitted.

So, like I told you in previous posts, a vaccine passport is literally a free pass to spread covid at will.

Ideas of a mad man.

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u/Paul2777 Aug 08 '21

I’m saying you can’t compare the two things. Drink driving is completely different, someone has to actively drink and put themselves into a dangerous position and there are laws against it. Going to a public space when you’re unvaccinated puts no one in danger because its a 99.7% survivable virus and if anyone there is so terrified of covid or is either vulnerable or old then they have the option of getting themselves vaccinated. I’m not anti-vaccination, I’m anti forced vaccination and coming out with crap like its the same as drink driving is just another way to try and shame people into it. There are people out there who legitimately can’t have the vaccine for multiple reasons. Should they live like hermits and never be allowed to leave the house?

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