r/PublicFreakout Aug 07 '21

Large protests are underway in Paris and many other cities in France against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations. 😷Pandemic Freakout

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

So, stupidity ISN’T limited to the US? I’m shocked I tell you … SHOCKED!!

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

What’s stupid about it?

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

If you don’t have a health reason to not take a vaccine, why would you not take it?

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u/Hermitically Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21

Because, regardless of what anyone says, there is no long term data on the safety of this particular mRNA vaccine because it was approved under emergency authorization and is a completely new form of vaccine type. That coupled with all the reports of people experiencing heart palpitations, irregular periods, and other severe symptoms is cause to believe they may not be as safe as we are being told. Combine that with theories that the vaccinated could suffer from Antibody-dependent enhancement and you are really gambling with your health over a virus with a 99.6% survival rate for most people. Not to mention there have been something like 12,000 fatalities in the VAERS database attributed to this vaccine... more than deaths from all vaccines over the past 20 years combined. You're better off taking supplements, exercising, and keeping your body healthy rather than freaking out because the TV told you to.


This is from Moderna's own site - The Moderna COVID‑19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID‑19. There is no FDA‑approved vaccine to prevent COVID‑19. (https://www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua/recipients/moderna-vaccine)

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u/No_Scientist3784 Aug 07 '21

Mrna vaccines have been used for almost 20 years in animals and have eliminated 2 other corona viruses and 3 deadly diseases. How ever you are correct this is the human trial that is required so we didnt lose half the population on the planet again. But hey you can keep taking your vitamins and pretending ita gonna all be ok. Just do it at home where no one has to deal with you.

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u/Hermitically Aug 07 '21

Most of the animals in those clinical trials later developed auto-immune issues amongst other things that significantly decreased their lifespan.

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u/vic06 Aug 08 '21

They did not, and that's why they are widely used. I feel you're going to to drop this argument when I tell you that, while similar, the technology behind COVID vaccines is not exactly the same as veterinary variants. Pfizer and Moderna vaccines use virus-like-particles (VLP), which have already been used in fully approved vaccines against HPV and Hepatitis B.

Aida V., et al. Novel Vaccine Technologies in Veterinary Medicine: A Herald to Human Medicine Vaccines. Front. Vet. Sci., 15 April 2021 | https://doi.org/10.3389/fvets.2021.654289

Care to provide a peer-reviewed source to back up your claim?

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u/No_Scientist3784 Aug 07 '21

Buddy we wouldnt have cattle without it. You have no idea what your talking about

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u/Hermitically Aug 07 '21

Your arrogance will be your downfall.

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u/No_Scientist3784 Aug 07 '21

Ok jedi master ill make sure i check in with you anytime i want my daily fill of bullshit and stupidity.

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u/pinktaco99 Aug 07 '21

False

More than 346 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 2, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,490 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

6,490 deaths, that’s 0.0019% of vaccinated individuals. And the vaccine may not even be the causes of all those deaths when you have a sample size that large.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

there is no long term data on the safety of this particular mRNA vaccine

So you prefer to take the long term risks of the virus?

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

The virus is in the same family of viruses as the cold and the flu.

That's not true. Covid-19 is in the coronaviridae family while the flu is in the orthomyxoviridae family and the most common strain for the common cold is in the picornaviridae family.

There are multiple prominent doctors and researchers voicing concern

Then you proceed to not name nor cite any of them.

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u/Hermitically Aug 08 '21

If you have 30 minutes to spare this one lays it all out. - rumble(dot)com(slash)vkqs1o-dr.-zelenko-schools-israeli-rabbinic-court..html

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u/Hermitically Aug 09 '21 edited Aug 09 '21

And another.... https://youtu.be/QwlWwy-PrGo

"Why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective having an outbreak in the middle of the summer when respiratory viral syndromes don't do that? And to understand that, you need to understand the condition that is called antibody mediated viral enhancement."

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

I have a work colleague in hospital on life support after his lungs filled with fluid less than 24hrs after his 2nd jab. Won’t see that on the news though! Guy was perfectly healthy until he had his 2nd dose of the vaccine!

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

Interesting. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines consist of a DNA snippet that is wrapped in lipid molecules. The sniper represents the spike proteins on the virus. The lipid wrapper is why it has to be stored in deep freezers.

It is true that very rare adverse cases occur, they occur with ANYTHING that we introduce to our bodies. But if we lived our lives based on the worst case scenarios, we would never get anything done.

Cases like your friend are not reported in the news because they are 1 in 10,000,000 and not worth reporting in public news.

I promise you, those cases ARE tracked by Medical Professionals.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

It is true that very rare adverse cases occur, they occur with ANYTHING that we introduce to our bodies.

Including cheese burgers.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

It is true that very rare adverse cases occur, they occur with ANYTHING that we introduce to our bodies.

Including cheese burgers.

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 08 '21

I find that a sufficient application of condiments prevents adverse reactions.

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u/vic06 Aug 08 '21

Your coworker's embolism was not caused by the vaccine. The Pfizer vaccine could not trigger the rare thrombosis that could develop pulmonary embolism. That was linked exclusively to the Astrazeneca and J&J vaccines, and women in particular.

https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2021/07/blood-clotting-covid19.php

There is a plausible causal relationship between J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets (thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, or TTS). However, after reviewing all available safety data, CDC and FDA recommend use of this vaccine resume in the United States given that the known and potential benefits outweigh the known and potential risks.

This adverse event is rare, occurring at a rate of about 7 per 1 million vaccinated women between 18 and 49 years old. For women 50 years and older and men of all ages, this adverse event is even more rare.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/JJUpdate.html

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u/Paul2777 Aug 08 '21

He hasn’t got an embolism, he developed a huge fluid build up in his chest less than 24hrs after his second jab and was rushed to hospital. Currently no one is updating any of us with his situation, it’s all being kept quiet. I’m sorry but you can all have blind faith in these vaccines but not all of us are like that.

I do not trust them and would rather not put unnecessary drugs inside my body. Saying that though I will have the vaccine within the next month and this is to protect my livelihood because its clear now there are too many hysterical weirdos out there who will never give up until every unvaccinated person is unemployed and living in poverty due of their choice not to have it. I’ve had covid twice and barely a cough each time, had worse hangovers to be honest.

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u/Hermitically Aug 07 '21

If he does end up on the news, they'll just say he died from the latest super deadly strain that you'll need a booster shot for.

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u/Hawtdawgz_4 Aug 07 '21

And yet millions of people have not had that issue.

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

You either believe in human rights or you don’t. You can’t just throw them out the window for a largely minor illness. Once they’re gone they’re gone and we won’t be getting them back.