r/PublicFreakout Aug 07 '21

Large protests are underway in Paris and many other cities in France against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations. 😷Pandemic Freakout

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

Where does that attitude stop?

Is it OK for someone to get sloppy drunk and drive their car through town at high speed?

It’s a matter of personal choice, as you say.

The problem with your point of view is it doesn’t take into account your impact on people you encounter.

Your freedom of choice cannot infringe on someone else’s freedom of choice.

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u/Sea-Hornet-9140 Aug 07 '21

Remember when Trump was president and started operation warp speed, and everyone said they would never get a vaccine that was rushed so recklessly? My how that tune has changed.

Forced medication is also perhaps the biggest red line to cross. What's next, forced mental health medication to make sure there are less shootings?

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

I’m not clear what your point is.

Seems to me, the same people that complained about “rushed” vaccines then are the same people crying about “personal choice” today.

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u/Sea-Hornet-9140 Aug 07 '21

No it's the complete opposite - everyone anti-Trump was anti vaccine, because he was rushing them (the old 'pro choice crowd). Now, everyone anti-Trump is pro vaccine even though they are still rushed and still from Trump's Warp Speed project. You also see a lot of the opposite where Trump supporters were pro Vaccine then switched when Biden came in (your new 'pro choice' crowd).

I really wish people would stop and think a bit more. You see this sort of flipping all over the world on all sorts of issues, like refugees going into Europe being all about inalienable human rights, until now because they are coming through Belarus so fuck 'em. The global population has seemingly been successfully divided along political lines.

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u/EmperorGeek Aug 07 '21

“Trump” had nothing nothing to do with vaccine development other than allowing the funding for it to pass. That shit tried to deny that COVID-19 was a problem. He wanted to leave people on their cruise ship so “our numbers won’t go up”. How shallow can a human being be?

I remember that there was some concern with his political appointees in various departments potentially getting in the way of straight scientific research and trying to push odd ball treatments (Hydroxychloroquine anyone) or him suggesting UV lights be used “in the body, somehow”. “I told my people to Slow down testing so there won’t be as many cases”.

Trump actually got in the way more than he helped the whole process.

But he DOES deserve some credit for letting the process get started. Not that he could have actually prevented it.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

I literally never heard of people being anti-vax because of them not liking Trump.

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u/Sea-Hornet-9140 Aug 08 '21

Then you literally never talked to any anti-Trump people about the Covid vaccine while he was president.