r/PublicFreakout Aug 07 '21

Large protests are underway in Paris and many other cities in France against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations. 😷Pandemic Freakout

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

What’s stupid about it?

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u/Hifen Aug 07 '21

Government shouldn't be able to force vaccinate, but vaccine passports will absoltuley be necessary.

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

Yeah maybe….. What for though? Going abroad or to public places and work etc?

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u/Hifen Aug 07 '21

I mean, there are no simple answers. It needs to be justified, people always pull out the "slippery slope" argument, but we're able to do a pretty good job as a society doing case by case sceneriors.

An employer has no buisiness mandating vaccines or requiring proof if they are capable of having the option for employees working from home for example.

Travel, hospitals, retirement homes... places that are high risk or could cause inter-regional spread would probably need it. Possibly places like Gyms which would allow it to spread more easily. Dentists etc.

Businesses should be able to ask for it freely from customers though. If I open a private hair salon, and I shouldn't be forced to cut hair for someone unvaccinated if it makes me feel unsafe.

I don't think anyone is adocating for checkpoints.

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u/Paul2777 Aug 07 '21

I honestly don’t think you know how vaccines work. I don’t claim to be an expert but the vaccine protects the vaccinated person. Why on Earth would a vaccinated hair dresser be bothered whether or not a customer is vaccinated? They worried about catching covid or something? F*ck me I’m literally sitting here with covid and I’ve had worse hangovers. It’s a very minor illness, rather have the flu jab to be honest that’s hit me far worse than this. Saying that though if I was old or vulnerable I would’ve been vaccinated… like my parents have but again it should be a choice and not a requirement for any work.

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u/Hifen Aug 07 '21

I honestly don’t think you know how vaccines work

I mean I knew enough when I got my immunology undergrad.

I don’t claim to be an expert but the vaccine

Clearly, based on your following comment.

vaccine protects the vaccinated person.

It protects both the vaccinated individual and those they interact with.

It’s a very minor illness

It's not by any margin, a minor illness.

it should be a choice

And private businesses should hace the choice on who to serve when there's an impact to their health.