r/PublicFreakout Aug 07 '21

Large protests are underway in Paris and many other cities in France against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations. 😷Pandemic Freakout

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u/Hifen Aug 07 '21

They protest because human bodily autonomy...create a two-tier society

No it's not. Thats all just fear mongering.

and Nazi's also wore clothes So I guess that makes us all facists like them.

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u/spays_marine Aug 08 '21

No it's not. Thats all just fear mongering.

Opinions like these are exactly why these protests should exist. Many people are simply unable to understand the inherent dangers of measures like this that set precedents. And if and when the time comes, this is exactly how we will give up our freedom, by haling it as a solution while vilifying those who stand up for our freedom. It might not be now, but if we do allow exceptions and precedents, then it is only a matter of time.

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u/Hifen Aug 08 '21

inherent dangers of measures like this that set precedents.

Yes yes, we all have heard the slipper slope argument before. George washington forced vaccination for small pox and yet no Facist Tyranny spun out from that.

It's fear mongering, and thats all this is.

will give up our freedom,

Wearing seat belts, masks, being vacinated, these aren't "freedoms" you are giving up.

while vilifying those who stand up for our freedom.

Anything can be argued as standing up for freedom.... there needs to be more to the argument. The fact that you keep falling back on a very generic "freedom" shows a weakness in the narritive people like you are trying to spin.

but if we do allow exceptions and precedents, then it is only a matter of time.

No, it's not, this is a slippery slope fallacy.

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u/spays_marine Aug 08 '21

It's easy to call something weak when you don't have the mental capacity to understand the implications. All you do is resort to platitudes but you are unaware of how liberty has regressed because of measures that seem small and innocuous, or go completely under the radar to people like you.

Just look at the evolution of your personal privacy during the last 20 years because of "terrorism". And hey, who can be against those measures unless you're a terrorist right?

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u/Hifen Aug 09 '21

you don't have the mental capacity to understand the implications

yes, yes, everyones too stupid to understand your argument.

You're resorting on slipper slope, and everything you've put forward is essentially unfounded.

Just look at the evolution of your personal privacy during the last 20

Using this as an example is a non-sequitor. Just because government has performed bad actions in area X doesn't mean we can't have the government perform any other actions.

You can extend that argument to anything:

"we shouldn't let the government arrest murderers, then they will arrest dissedents, just look at what they did to our personal privacy".

If you're going to adhom on someone elses "mental capacity" please reduce the fallicious comments and try to stay on point.

As an aside, the evolution of personal privacy is more closely tied to the exponential growth in technology and our inability to keep up from a regulatory perspective. Also, the largest privacy concerns are from private and corporate areas not really governmental.