Large protests are underway in Paris and many other cities in France against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations.

[u/mouthofreason]

[u/notillnate]

I could never understand why you people hate freedom

[u/VunnitoL → u/notillnate]

Being forced to get vaccinated is freedom to you? Real freedom can't be found in todays governments.

[u/VunnitoL → u/VunnitoL]

why are people hating on my comment it's literally a reality....being forced to do something (doesn't matter if it is good or bad) is not a form of "freedom"

[u/charlesfire → u/VunnitoL]

Because your comment is based on a fallacy. In France, nobody is forced to be vaccinated. You can get a sanitary pass even if you're not vaccinated there.

[u/VunnitoL → u/charlesfire]

Well not being able to live normally without a vaccine is kinda forcing it in a disguise

[u/charlesfire → u/VunnitoL]

What don't you understand in "You can get a sanitary pass even if you're not vaccinated there"? If you're unvaccinated there, you still can access the same services, businesses and events than vaccinated people.

[u/VunnitoL → u/charlesfire]

You live there? Cuz that isn't what I read.

[u/charlesfire → u/VunnitoL]

That's literally what's written on the government website :

Le « pass sanitaire » consiste en la présentation, numérique (via l'application TousAntiCovid) ou papier, d'une preuve sanitaire, parmi les trois suivantes :

La vaccination, à la condition que les personnes disposent d'un schéma vaccinal complet et du délai nécessaire après l’injection finale, [...]

2. La preuve d'un test négatif de moins de 48h pour le « pass sanitaire activités » pour l’accès aux grands événements concernés et maximum 72h pour le contrôle sanitaire « voyages ».

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1. Le résultat d'un test RT-PCR ou antigénique positif attestant du rétablissement de la Covid-19, datant d'au moins 11 jours et de moins de 6 mois.
   

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[u/capt-bob → u/charlesfire]

Even in the us, when vaccination started being required to do things, instantly there were fake vaccination cards being sold on the street. Well, I heard that on a radio program anyway, they said why would you buy that, when vaccination is free? Then I thought of the Tuskegee airmen, and the us government releasing different viruses through the population just to see how it traveled, along with subjecting soldiers to atomic blasts to see what happens. Now the history is out in the public, maybe that's why big cities don't trust it.

[u/DramDemon → u/capt-bob]

What’s requiring the vaccine in the U.S. that doesn’t already require other vaccines?

[u/capt-bob → u/DramDemon]

I wasn't disagreeing, just thinking about why people are suspicious in cities you would think would go along with it politically. Maybe also because they originally said it wouldn't be safe when trump said to rush it through? You're right, the others are required for school, and way more sketchy stuff is required of military personnel. Some military I've been talked to said they had nasty side effects from untested vaccines the got shot up with in the past for local germs on deployment.