r/PublicFreakout Aug 07 '21

Large protests are underway in Paris and many other cities in France against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations. 😷Pandemic Freakout

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u/spays_marine Aug 08 '21

Being against forced vaccinations and passports has nothing to do with denying science.

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u/Soyman_Bridges Aug 08 '21

Why should proof of vaccination be something which you are against?

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u/spays_marine Aug 08 '21

Because it is a violation of your freedom and privacy.

A business should have the freedom to ask for proof, and people should have the right to refuse it, it works both ways. But any government service or nationalized business should provide their service to anyone regardless of what vaccinations they've had. You have rights as a person, and I don't think they can or should be altered unless you break the law.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

You know that, in France, unvaccinated people can still access all the same things as the vaccinated, right? You can get the sanitary pass even if you're not vaccinated.

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u/spays_marine Aug 08 '21

I'd suggest translating "sanitaire" as "health".

That aside, you're trying to make a distinction but that pass is still for people who are either vaccinated or recently tested. But the crux of the issue is not the vaccinations, it is a two tier society where one person can do something another can't.

That it seems like a good option to battle a pandemic is irrelevant, an internet filter for kiddy porn might seem like something you can't argue with either, unless you realize that it's just a foot in the door to strip people from their privacy. Which coincidentally is exactly what Apple decided this week, and what experts clearly recognize it as.

Many people just look at this instance in isolation and fail to see the bigger picture.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

it is a two tier society where one person can do something another can't.

That's not the case. Everyone, regardless of their vaccination status can do what the others do.

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u/spays_marine Aug 08 '21

If everyone could do what they want regardless of the pass, there wouldn't be one.

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u/is-numberfive Aug 08 '21

except you can’t work in healthcare, nursing or be a fireman now

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

Which make sense since those jobs require you to work with vulnerable people.

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u/is-numberfive Aug 08 '21

no, it makes you a liar and nazi apologizer

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

Dude, if you think it's ok to make people who are potentially infected with a deadly disease work with vulnerable people, then you're the nazi here.

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u/b6s98 Aug 14 '21

This is outdated now. Unvaccinated are being refused entry. I’m vaccinated but I do think that people shouldn’t be punished if they don’t want it.