r/PublicFreakout Aug 07 '21

Large protests are underway in Paris and many other cities in France against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccinations. 😷Pandemic Freakout

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

We have laws to stop people driving into crowds last time I checked.

So you think we should have laws preventing people going in public spaces when they aren't vaccinated?

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u/Paul2777 Aug 08 '21

Nah I think unvaccinated people like myself should be able to go anywhere

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

Then you're being inconsistent with what you just said. You literally said that limiting people's freedom of driving drunk is ok because we have laws against that is ok, but limiting people's freedom of spreading a deadly disease by making a laws isn't ok.

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u/LogicAnswers Aug 08 '21

limiting people's freedom of spreading a deadly disease by making a laws isn't ok

But you are not limiting the spread with the vaccine.

Already proven, already publicly admitted.

So, like I told you in previous posts, a vaccine passport is literally a free pass to spread covid at will.

Ideas of a mad man.

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u/Paul2777 Aug 08 '21

These people seem to think the vaccine stops people carrying or passing on covid. All it does is teach the vaccinated person’s immune system to defend itself when they become infected. Same as having covid and overcoming it but not as good.

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u/LogicAnswers Aug 08 '21

These people seem to think the vaccine stops people carrying or passing on covid.

These kind of useful idiots is the only reason why covid is still a thing.

All it does is teach the vaccinated person’s immune system to defend itself when they become infected.

At this point, even this is a maybe. Israel has mostly vaccinated people in hospitals. And the delta variant, as far as we can look at other countries, is less deadly/more contagious.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

All it does is teach the vaccinated person’s immune system to defend itself when they become infected.

It also reduce your chance of catching it which also means that it reduce your chance of being able to spread it since you can't spread it if you don't catch it in the first place.

Same as having covid and overcoming it but not as good better.

FTFY
It's literally less side effects for better immunity.

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

But you are not limiting the spread with the vaccine.

Dude, you're less likely to get covid-19 if you're vaccinated and you can't spread it if you don't catch it in the first place.

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u/LogicAnswers Aug 08 '21

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u/Laughatitall Aug 09 '21

FYI, all three articles you posted actually suggest that vaccines DO work at preventing the person from catching the disease.

They all mention how the vaccine works but effectiveness waned over time.

If you post articles to make a point, you should at least post articles that share your same point of view.

Not that comprehension is even in your wheelhouse though.

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u/LogicAnswers Aug 09 '21

Again with the lies. I have shared does articles in order for you to have the numbers without putting in any effort.

Such effective vaccines that the most vaccinated countries have covid spikes.

And before you say bUt NoT aLL wErE VacCiNaTeD I urge you to check 99% vaccination rate Gibraltar and stop making a fool out of yourself.

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u/Laughatitall Aug 09 '21

I’m just saying the articles that you used as your source say that the vaccine is effective at preventing infection.

I’m not saying my opinion in any capacity so I’m not sure what I’m lying about?

Literally read the articles you posted. They actually say in them that the vaccines are effective.

Regardless of my opinion on covid, you look stupid posting these articles that directly contradict your opinion.

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u/LogicAnswers Aug 09 '21

I have shared does articles in order for you to have the numbers without putting in any effort.

How are the numbers contradicting my opinion? Covid vaccinated nations = Same/More cases as covid unvaccinated countries.

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u/Paul2777 Aug 08 '21

I’m saying you can’t compare the two things. Drink driving is completely different, someone has to actively drink and put themselves into a dangerous position and there are laws against it. Going to a public space when you’re unvaccinated puts no one in danger because its a 99.7% survivable virus and if anyone there is so terrified of covid or is either vulnerable or old then they have the option of getting themselves vaccinated. I’m not anti-vaccination, I’m anti forced vaccination and coming out with crap like its the same as drink driving is just another way to try and shame people into it. There are people out there who legitimately can’t have the vaccine for multiple reasons. Should they live like hermits and never be allowed to leave the house?

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u/charlesfire Aug 08 '21

puts no one in danger because its a 99.7% survivable virus

You're literally putting "put not one in danger" and "do cause deaths" in the same sentence. You know that most DUI don't cause deaths either, so why is it ok to make it illegal?

if anyone there is so terrified of covid or is either vulnerable or old then they have the option of getting themselves vaccinated.

If anyone there is so terrified of DUI or is either vulnerable or old then they have the option of wearing protections (helmet, padding, etc).

I’m not anti-vaccination, I’m anti forced vaccination

And yet we are here on a post about a protest against a pass you can get even if you're unvaccinated...

There are people out there who legitimately can’t have the vaccine for multiple reasons. Should they live like hermits and never be allowed to leave the house?

  1. The vaccine passport is literally the best way we currently have to protect these people without making them live like hermits. That's actually one of the main argument in favor of the sanitary pass.
  2. These people can still legally get the sanitary pass.