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the cops at Uvalde literally stood outside and refused to go in after the shooter and even stopped parents from helping their kids Justified Freakout

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u/tengounquestion2020 May 26 '22

One of the mothers in the video is a parent of one of kids who died.

https://twitter.com/alxmalloy/status/1529681843808780288?s=21

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u/gerudodesertfairy May 26 '22

God this makes me so sick

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u/inconvenientnews May 26 '22 edited May 28 '22 Silver Gold Platinum Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Coin Gift Take My Energy Take My Money Starry Ally This Bravo Grande! Tearing Up Defeated To The Stars Bless Up Eureka! Helpful (Pro) Looking Dread Facepalm 'MURICA Awesome Answer

It gets worse:

The latest of what Texas police officials are now admitting is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/uyhmsh/uinconvenientnews_discusses_the_uvalde_police/ia99rsa/

Previously:

A mom of two children at Uvalde was put in handcuffs after urging police and law enforcement to enter the school.

Once freed from her cuffs, she jumped the school fence, ran inside and sprinted out with her kids.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/uvalde-residents-voice-frustration-over-shooting-response-11653588161

Cops stood outside the school while the killer rampaged inside.

Onlookers yelled at them to go in. They didn’t.

"One parent urged bystanders: “Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to.”

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

"that parent’s daughter died in the attack while he was begging cops to save the kids."

My God.

https://twitter.com/AndySpecht/status/1529643462953521153

additional kid died directly because the cops were incompetent. “When the cops came, the cop said: 'Yell if you need help!' And one of the persons in my class said 'help.'

The [shooter] overheard and he came in and shot her," the boy said.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/special-reports/uvalde-school-shooting/its-time-to-die-fourth-grade-survivor-uvalde-shooting-recalls-what-gunman-told-student/273-51cc4e26-7a0a-49c0-ba7a-48cdd47fa235 https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1529708434995683329

The Uvalde shooter was killed by a federal officer because the other police officers kept waiting for more and more backup

https://www.wsj.com/articles/suspected-shooter-at-texas-elementary-school-in-custody-after-incident-11653422735

"Cops will only do their job when the public stops criticizing them for murdering unarmed people."

@JackPosobiec I'm not defending the actions of the officers. But we've demonized law enforcement to the point that there are far fewer rewards for being a hero

https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1529835589847027712

Uvalde is a town of just 16,000 people. But it apparently has a SWAT team.

We’re regularly told small towns need SWAT teams so they can quickly respond to events just like this. The killer was in the building for an hour.

Photo op of SWAT team: https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1529679652154920960

The school district for Robb Elementary has its own police department with 5 cops and 1 security guard. The city of Uvalde's police department recieved just under 40% of the entire city's budget for the year and got a 500k grant from the state. Neither stopped today's massacre.

https://twitter.com/NeeNeinNyetNo/status/1529220708601151491

More kids have died from going to school than cops have from going to work

https://twitter.com/JP_1U/status/1529213380044668928

cops whine and bitch about risking their lives to defend people, and when a shooter shows up in what looks like (but isn't) body armor, they run & hide while a massacre unfolds. an unarmed teacher was brave enough to try.

https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1529454699275075584

There’s a common mythology in law enforcement, pushed by quack groups like the Force Science Institute, that police ofticers’ memories improve over time. It contradicts all the scientific research and, oddly, apparently does not apply to non-police.

https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1529946586058571794

Police lied about the timeline.

They lied about shooter having body armor.

They lied about him being barricaded.

They lied about border patrol on-scene.

They went in and got their own kids.

The armed resource officer failed.

Local PD/DPS/tactical PD waited for SWAT.

https://twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1529819943608496128

Now the police are investigating themselves to tell us whether letting the school shooter in for an hour while keeping parents from saving their own children’s lives was a policy violation.

https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1529863659677048836

One of the greatest culture shocks when I arrived in the U.S. was the blind veneration of police. After years and years of living here and reading about this country, I now realize that it's the structural pillar of white supremacy.

https://twitter.com/EmilKerenji/status/1529789802551427073

This is a much bigger problem in America than we realize because Republicans use "thank our heroes" conservative culture wars "guns and gays" politics and "control the narrative" tactics, the police department control of local news dependent for access, the camera footage evidence (getting caught deleting camera footage again or released after 3 years or released immediately if it helps police), the "law and order" politicians, the arrests ("black and white Americans use cannabis at similar levels" but black Americans are 800% more likely to get punished for it and even after legalization), the statistics themselves (see how the police stop better crime statistics "FBI may shut down police use-of-force database due to lack of police participation or how they block their own domestic violence research showing "400% higher in the law-enforcement community")

More examples from r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut:

Even though LA is one of the safest cities in America (chart of national crime data): 67 full-time police employees just to push negative talking points on Fox News about a city they don't even live in but "serve"

The LAPD and LA Sheriff together have 67 full-time employees working on PR and propaganda. People don't realize that they spend a lot of money and time to plant these stories:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-30/police-public-relations https://twitter.com/equalityAlec/status/1470790952558243848 https://twitter.com/equalityAlec/status/1484966547244433416

More Texas police abuse: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/uqupiz/you_dont_need_to_be_human_to_have_a_sense_of_mercy/i8txcza/

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u/whateverMan223 May 26 '22

fucking hell what a comment

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u/skippieelove May 26 '22

My heart sank the further I got…

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u/InfamousIndecision May 27 '22

I'm trying to figure out if I'm more shocked by what happened or more shocked by how not-shocked I am.

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u/phdoofus May 26 '22

They need to start naming highways after slain schoolchildren instead.

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u/inconvenientnews May 26 '22 edited May 27 '22 All-Seeing Upvote Starry Narwhal Salute

Texas Man Arrested for Weed Died After Officers Pepper-Sprayed Him and Put Him in a Spit Hood

https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgq7yb/texas-man-arrested-for-weed-died-after-officers-pepper-sprayed-him-and-put-him-in-a-spit-hood

Mother Raped by Texas Officer After Being Jailed for Half Gram of Weed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/8i2rnh/mother_raped_by_texas_officer_after_being_jailed/

Gov. Abbott, Texas leaders urge prosecutors to keep enforcing pot laws

http://www.fox4news.com/news/texas/gov-abbott-texas-leaders-urge-prosecutors-to-keep-enforcing-pot-laws

While Joe Rogan photo ops with the current Texas governor at the Texas governor's mansion https://twitter.com/gregabbott_tx/status/1324547634049257474

Even though Joe Rogan pretends to care about pot and small government  ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄

Austin police chief says jaywalkers should be happy they’re not sexually assaulted by cops

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/22/austin-police-chief-says-jaywalkers-should-be-happy-theyre-not-sexually-assaulted-by-cops/

Texas county sheriff says DA can't indict his deputies because his other deputies cleared them for cuffing, strip searching and penetrating woman on the side of road for running stop sign

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/4rcsuq/texas_county_sheriff_says_da_cant_indict_his/

Texas cop fires gun into wall in anger after server tells him to stop groping her

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/arizona-cop-fires-gun-into-wall-in-anger-after-server-tells-him-to-stop-groping-her/

TX cop is still on administrative leave for distributing child porn

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/03/04/fbi-arrests-denton-police-officer-david-schoolcraft-distribution-child-pornography/

Former Texas Trooper Charged with Sexually Assaulting 2 Women. Investigators Are Looking for More Possible Victims.

https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/former-texas-trooper-charged-with-sexually-assaulting-2-women-investigators-are-looking-for-more-possible-victims/

Texas police sergeant arrested for filming inside woman's bathroom

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6139295/Texas-police-sergeant-arrested-placing-video-camera-inside-womans-bathroom-filming-girl.html

Texas Cops Confiscate Anti-Republican Yard Sign After Threatening Property Owner

https://lawandcrime.com/first-amendment/texas-cops-confiscate-anti-republican-yard-sign-after-threatening-property-owner/

A teenager rolling coal hit 6 bicyclists with his truck, sending 3 to the hospital. He was not arrested and allowed to go home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/09/30/texas-teen-coal-rolls-hits-bicyclists/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/q243kp/a_teenager_rolling_coal_hit_6_bicyclists_with_his/

‘Barbarism’: Texas judge ordered electric shocks to silence man on trial. Conviction thrown out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/07/barbarism-texas-judge-ordered-electric-shocks-to-man-during-trial-conviction-thrown-out/

Texas police say TV station is unethical for publishing video of their officers shooting unarmed man with his hands up

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/01/media/sheriffs-office-comdemns-texas-station-ksat-video/index.html

Denied Evidence. Citing an obscure legal loophole, the Travis County Sheriff's Office blocked a grieving mother's request for evidence of how her 21-year-old son died in jail. Now, KXAN uncovers video and other records of the painful days leading up to his death

https://www.kxan.com/denied-evidence

Travis County sheriff sues Texas AG to keep inmate death records secret - KXAN

https://www.kxan.com/amp/news/investigations/travis-county-sheriff-sues-texas-ag-to-keep-inmate-death-records-secret/1707887004

Bastrop County deputies ‘tortured,’ murdered unarmed man

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/bastrop-county/lawsuit-claims-bastrop-county-deputies-tortured-murdered-unarmed-man/amp/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/up46sq/lawsuit_claims_bastrop_county_deputies_tortured/

AP sources: Grand jury indicts 19 Austin police officers on aggravated assault charges over 2020 protests

https://apnews.com/article/ap-news-alert-austin-texas-03d4ef9d1f07f983b9e50557b4850322 https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/sv69xj/ap_sources_grand_jury_indicts_19_austin_police/

8 Austin police officers charged after investigation into 2020 George Floyd protests are released on $1 bond, lawyers say

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/22/us/austin-police-officers-george-floyd-protests/index.html https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/sz1zxm/8_austin_police_officers_charged_after/

grand jury indicts three police officers for allegedly assaulting people during 2020 George Floyd protests.

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/ukdyft/texas_grand_jury_indicts_three_police_officers/

Two Dallas police officers face assault charges from 2020 George Floyd protests

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02/09/dallas-police-arrest-protests/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/sp5o2y/two_dallas_police_officers_face_assault_charges/

Gov. Greg Abbott floats pardons for Austin police officers charged with excessive force in 2020 protests

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02/23/Abbott-Austin-police-indictment/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/szrmc9/gov_greg_abbott_floats_pardons_for_austin_police/

Texas police unions want Travis County DA to stop announcing APD indictments until after election

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/texas-police-unions-want-travis-county-da-to-stop-announcing-apd-indictments-until-after-election/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/sv5gdf/texas_police_unions_want_travis_county_da_to_stop/

City reports Austin Police Acadamy brainwashing cadets into a Militarized mindset.

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/city-reports-allege-militarized-mindset-in-austin-police-academy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/kqk9n6/city_reports_austin_police_acadamy_brainwashing/

Austin police caught writing 'Thank You' notes to themselves

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/gygb4a/austin_police_caught_writing_thank_you_notes_to/

Austin police officer pulls over police chief for going 100 mph, the 2 share a chuckle and cop sends him on his way.

https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=4TNzPuAPVZw&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwRnZfLc8jQY%26feature%3Dshare https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/7xqfdh/austin_police_officer_pulls_over_police_chief_for/

Texas cop urges Facebook followers to use ‘deadly force’ against anyone harming a Confederate statue

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/texas-cop-urges-facebook-followers-to-use-deadly-force-against-anyone-harming-a-confederate-statue/

Texas dad left paralyzed when cops beat him ‘like a bunch of thugs’ after mistaking him for drug suspect

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/texas-dad-left-paralyzed-when-cops-beat-him-like-a-bunch-of-thugs-after-mistaking-him-for-drug-suspect/

A black 20-year-old student Justin Howell is in critical condition with brain damage after Austin Police deliberately shot him in the head; then shot the medics helping him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/gwd37n/a_black_20yearold_student_justin_howell_is_in/

Plano Police Detective Frank Dockery Resigns After Being Arrested In Drug Trafficking Investigation

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/11/01/plano-police-detective-frank-dockery-resigns-arrested-drug-trafficking-investigation/amp/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/dsz1xo/plano_police_detective_frank_dockery_resigns/

Keller Police pay $200K settlement for pepper spraying man during unlawful arrest

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/ur3hch/keller_police_pay_200k_settlement_for_pepper/

Texas police officer ordered to pay $6.3 million to family of Iowa man who died in custody

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/2017/09/25/texas-police-officer-must-pay-millions-family-iowa-man-who-died-custody/693144001/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/72kzv1/texas_police_officer_ordered_to_pay_63_million_to/

Texas Man Sues Police After Being Pepper-Sprayed While Filming Son’s Arrest

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/27/us/marco-puente-texas-police-arrest.html https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/kl7bvk/texas_man_sues_police_after_being_peppersprayed/

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u/inconvenientnews May 26 '22 Silver Gold All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy

Texas has the most number of Republicans who voted against a bill to honor Capitol Police during the Jan 6 Riot...

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/m89905/texas_has_the_most_number_of_republicans_who/

‘Blue Lives Matter’ Ted Cruz pictured scrolling through phone during harrowing opening testimony from the Chief of the US Capitol PolicePolitics

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ted-cruz-phone-capitol-riots-hearing-b1806270.html https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/lqtjf8/blue_lives_matter_ted_cruz_pictured_scrolling/

Man charged with assaulting Capitol police during Jan. 6 riot running for Texas House (COOKE COUNTY, TX)

https://www.kxii.com/app/2022/01/07/man-charged-with-assaulting-capitol-police-during-jan-6-riot-running-texas-house/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/rxvi57/man_charged_with_assaulting_capitol_police_during/

Texas police made more than $50 million in 2017 from seizing people’s property. Not everyone was guilty of a crime.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/12/07/texas-civil-asset-forfeiture-legislature/ https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/aciodq/texas_police_made_more_than_50_million_in_2017/

Hood County constable Chad Jordan, who has sent emails saying all peace officers should join the Oath Keepers, sent deputies to @granburyisd May 6 to investigate whether there was obscene content in the high school library. (There isn't.) cbsnews.com/dfw/news/const…

https://twitter.com/BudKennedy/status/1522986377851375618

@HoodCountyTX Constable Chad Jordan says his office is conducting an "active and pending criminal investigation" following complaints from members of a school book review committee aggrieved that books were not removed from a high school library. muckrock.com/foi/hood-count…

I asked for records about why police were going to a high school library about books and got this back:

the Liberty Cops are on the illegal books beat: twitter.com/BudKennedy/sta… "Chief Deputy Scott London, listed as the investigator, is a patriot-movement "constitutional sheriff" from his days in New Mexico. cspoa.org/new-mexico-she…" [pounding on door] open up, librarians. we're the Freedom Police and do not have a warrant.

https://twitter.com/adamsteinbaugh/status/1527693206674100226

Garland Police Officer Beats Suspect

https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/uqjc9d/garland_police_officer_beats_suspect/

Texas's Killeen Police Department “Due to the public interest, we will be investigation the arrest”

https://kdhnews.com/news/local/kpd-opens-internal-affairs-investigation-after-activists-arrest/article_0cf2e348-62bb-11ec-b3ca-9b586ed18a51.html https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/s0kjzc/texass_killeen_police_department/

Texas Deputy Fired After Leaving Dog in Car to Die of Heat, Marking at Least the Seventh K-9 to Die This Way Since June

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/08/texas-deputy-fired-after-leaving-dog-in-car-to-die-of-heat-marking-at-least-the-seventh-k-9-to-die-this-way-since-june/

Texas Cop Charged After He Allegedly 'Penetrated' U.S. Capitol, Lied to Federal Agents and Unsuccessfully Tried to Delete Evidence

https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/texas-cop-charged-after-he-allegedly-penetrated-u-s-ca

Police in Austin confront a peaceful march, grab the wheelchair of a quadruple amputee, and dump her onto the pavement.

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1376749806865969156

Texas SWAT officer died after being shot in the face during a no-knock raid. Three other officers were also shot. Homeowner charged with 3 counts of attempted capital murder. Subsequent 12 hour search found no drugs.

https://np.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/2c3mrc/texas_swat_officer_died_after_being_shot_in_the/

Houston police embroiled in scandal after 'lies' found in no-knock warrant that led to fatal raid on alleged drug house - ABC News

https://abcnews.go.com/US/houston-police-embroiled-scandal-lies-found-knock-warrant/story?id=60991293 https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/arknqs/houston_police_embroiled_in_scandal_after_lies/

Former Houston Police captain charged with holding repairman at gunpoint in bogus voter-fraud conspiracy

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Video reveals Texas police lied about killing teen. He was not shot when car reversed toward officers, the car was driving away

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Brother of teen killed by (lying) Texas police was cuffed and jailed overnight for no apparent reason

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Texas Sheriff Troy Nehls Lied about Arrest on Job Application; Fired from Previous Job for Destroying Evidence

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Former Texas Prosecutor Probably Sent Innocent Man to His Death. Now He’s on Trial for Misconduct.

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On this day in Texas History, April 22, 1873: The state legislature repeals the law authorizing the Texas State Police, passed just three years earlier. The State Police employed a number of African Americans, which made it extremely unpopular, especially among the state's former slave owners.

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Abbott implements laws to punish cities for defunding the police

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Gov. Abbott endorses indicted Austin police officer Justin Berry.

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The Texas Republican Party Platform is insane

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u/inconvenientnews May 27 '22 Gold

I want effective law enforcement

I wish I were able to talk about the racism, violence, ineptitude, & outrageous cost of policing w/o ridiculous accusations of being “anti-police.” I’m anti-failure, anti-waste, anti-violence, anti-racism. And I want solutions to achieve public health & safety. That’s it.

We spend more on policing, prosecutions, & prisons than any other society in the history of the word & yet since 2009, we have had 273 mass shootings, 1526 people shot & killed, & 980 people shot & wounded. “American exceptionalism.” https://everytownresearch.org/maps/mass-shootings-in-america/

Every time police arrest a white mass shooter alive & w/o shooting is an another powerful reason to reject the police “they-were-armed” justification and narrative after killing a Black person.

Every time police arrest a white mass shooter alive & w/o shooting is an another powerful reason to reject the police “in fear for their lives” justification and narrative after shooting & killing a Black person, whether unarmed or actually armed.

https://twitter.com/ScottHech/status/1525690930832896000

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u/dasherand1 May 26 '22

How do we even begin to fight this?

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u/must-love-bogs May 26 '22

It’s almost like Black Lives Matter was trying to tell us something about the callousness with which police operste

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u/fangelo2 May 26 '22 Helpful

I remember coming home from work and turning on the tv just as the Columbine shooting was unfolding. The cops all gathered in a tight group and then started this slow shuffle where they move their foot 6 inches at a time. They were not close to the school at all. It must have taken them 20 minutes to get to the door. In the meantime you could hear shots being fired inside.

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u/lawyerslawyer May 26 '22

Columbine marked a major shift in training for mass shootings. Rather than secure the perimeter etc. the training is now to move as quickly as possible to the sound of gunfire to engage the shooter immediately. This is... Not that.

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u/RevengencerAlf May 26 '22

Parkland wasn't that either (and a few in between). That "training" was never adopted. Cops through all their hardaasa "our lives are on the line" bullshitting generally tend to be cowards when they have time to back down against a real threat.

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u/ryantttt8 May 26 '22

More school children have died to gun violence than police were killed in the line of duty this year

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u/Waynersnitzel May 26 '22

The Columbine Shooting led to a lot of changes in the way police are SUPPOSED to respond to these incidents. It was a wake up call that negotiation, encirclement, securing the scene, etc. meant less than rapid, active engagement of the suspect during active shooter events.

Statistics show that actively engaging the suspect almost always ends the event via gunshots inflicted by police, suicide or surrender.

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u/Important-Address-75 May 26 '22

Instead of waiting for the shooter to tire or run out of ammo? That gun needs to enjoy it’s last day in the sunlight.

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u/Embarrassed-Park-957 May 26 '22

Cops didn't wait to enter the building here though--they went & got their OWN kids out, then prevented parents from doing the same.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=20087&v=jjXklN8HKfw&feature=youtu.be

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u/MainPFT May 26 '22

Both of the shooters were long dead (12:08pm) before they cleared the school and got all the kids out. SWAT didn't enter the school until 1:38pm (a full two hours after the shooting started - 11:19am). Dave Sanders did more for those kids than any of the police that day.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

I've watched the videos from inside the school. The killers were practically taking breaks in between the killings and couldn't believe how long their shooting spree was lasting.

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u/JustinTime4242 May 26 '22

They were also bored and disappointed their bombs didn’t go off. That was supposed to be their coup de grace. Then they went to the library because the whole “plan” was botched.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

And killed a hysterical female student before finally killing themselves. She would definitely be alive today if the police entered the building. Edit: They actually killed 2 students in the library. They told one that they wouldn't kill him seconds before killing him. They were some sick mo-fos.

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u/RoyalLimit May 26 '22

There's a tv show called 19-2 there's an episode based on a School shooting and it's all shot in a continous shot, it's very eye opening and really paints a picture of how brutal it is.

Edit: 19-2 School episode

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u/ReaperofMen42069 May 26 '22

the story i always hear is they were concerned it was a hostage situation and were confused why there were shots being fired inside since it was one of the first of its kind

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u/psych0kinesis May 26 '22 Gold

This is one of the most infuriating things I've ever seen. Every cop is dressed like they're going to a fucking war and they refuse to go in the building to stop one 18 year old slaughtering 3rd graders. I've never seen anything so full of cowardice.

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u/porespore May 26 '22

They should be consumed by shame

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u/ADarwinAward May 26 '22

They should all be shunned for being the cowards that they are.

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u/metalhead4 May 26 '22

How the fuck are the cops not running in there in Texas? Don't they live for shit like this? If they knew someone was inside shooting at kids, every cop on site should be rushing in.

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u/quallege_dropout May 26 '22

They just want to look the part.

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u/g1993 May 26 '22

The governor larps as a cowboy for fuck sakes

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u/The_Original_Gronkie May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

The governor (and the Secty of State) was wearing a shirt with a badge embroidered on it. Everybody with authority in Texas wants to cosplay as Marshall Dillon.

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u/bettyslow May 26 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

They put punisher/thin blue line/molan labe/glock stickers on their big trucks. They fly Gadsden flags. They wear 5.11 pants. They grow grey goatees. They are pretenders.

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u/cliffhngr42 May 26 '22

All hat, no cattle

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u/sanslumiere May 26 '22

Texas is all talk. The men who earned the "tough Texan" reputation are long dead.

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u/Historical-Ad6120 May 26 '22

Texas cops. A parent tried to rush in. Got tased.

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u/Wit-wat-4 May 26 '22

Villain origin story honestly, I can’t even guess what I’d do if someone stopped me from getting to my son.

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u/Eternal_Musician_85 May 26 '22

Seriously. I hope I never have to face the horror of this situation, but if my son is inside a school with an active shooter, to quote Ruth Langmore

"If you wanna stop me, you're gonna have to fucking KILL ME"

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u/heatmanj May 26 '22

All those guns and they are ready to use them on parents

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22 Silver Helpful

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u/jomiran May 26 '22

You can see one of them has the stun gun out with his finger by the trigger.

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u/Super-Branz-Gang May 26 '22

At this point, we’d be better off going to each town electing and organizing their own fast action response force— What useless cucks.

While we are at, here’s more questions: why was the school unlocked? What happened to having to be “buzzed in” from the office? How did this mentally ill shooter get past the school officer unscathed? Did he get the idea of barricading himself in from all of the active shooter drills he attended at school? What’s the rest of this story? I feel like there are parts being intentionally left out...

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u/confessionbearday May 26 '22

“ While we are at, here’s more questions: why was the school unlocked? What happened to having to be “buzzed in” from the office?”

The SRO walked out and let the kid in, shot at him from behind, claimed “he’s wearing armor” (when in fact the piece of shit cop just missed), and then stood around with the rest of the fucking cowards letting children die for 40 minutes.

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u/MyBoyBernard May 26 '22

Looks like they are there to protect freedom, the shooter's freedom to kill whoever he wants.

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u/riskybiscuit May 26 '22

I just got banned from r/ProtectAndServe by answering a posted question: "what makes a good cop" by replying: How about not standing by and letting kids be murdered

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u/MikeyTheGuy May 26 '22

Lol, I just went on there and this:

Being a servant to the people they are sworn to protect! Treat everyone as if they are your brother or sister. Uphold good laws

was downvoted. Probably gives a good idea about the mentality of its users.

Also seems to be a lack of discussion about this latest shooting on there...

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u/KWBC24 May 26 '22 Gold Take My Energy This

All that tactical gear, not a shread of courage

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u/Sameiimo May 26 '22 All-Seeing Upvote This

This is what happens when you militarise a group of cowards who receive barely any training and the best work they can do is shoot unarmed people trying to not be killed by them. They're all power hungry cowards who don't have the balls to actually do their jobs.

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u/TerranUnity May 26 '22 Take My Energy

We gave them military weapons and gear, but without the self-sacrificing attitude and discipline military members are supposed to have

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u/Mad_Murdock_0311 May 26 '22 Silver Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy

Thing is, in the military, you live with and train with your fellow Marines/soldiers/sailors 24/7. You build a camaraderie with them. They become family. Even the guys you don't like, are still family. You get to a point where you'll willingly sacrifice your life to save any one of them. And when I say train, I mean train near every day for years. When you're surrounded by those men, you'll have the courage to do some crazy, life risking shit.

The police don't train at all. They're just a bunch of fat losers that never amounted to anything after high school. They're the bullies who pushed you around, and beat on the weaker kids. They have no courage, no honor, no love for their fellow man. They just want power over people. They're cowards, by and large.

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u/cb4u2015 May 26 '22

This comment best summarizes the reason we have pretendapotomuses out on the force instead of people we need when the shit hits the fan.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

That’s usually the case. Tacti-cool almost always equals cosplay pansy.

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u/itwumbos May 26 '22

What happened to all that military grade tactical gear? Was it purchased just as a flex or for the sake of the aesthetic rather than actually protecting people?

Absolutely devastating.

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u/cmonkey2099 May 26 '22 Silver

Srsly at this point they're just larping.

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u/theholyevil May 26 '22

This feels like like this is the real argument we should be having.

I can understand a police officer doesn't want to die. No one wants to go out in a blaze of glory they are not going to be able to walk away from. There can even be an argument made that they tried and failed to storm the building. Those are people that do feel fear for their life on a daily basis.

But when all this stuff that is daily used to enforce the idea that we are the threat and they need this protection. They need these no-knock raids, they need these tactile drones, they need the next Ass Breaker 3000, and it does nothing when there is a threat. What the hell are we funding if not LARPing?

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u/AggressiveService485 May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

Not to wind up on the I am very badass subreddit, but I was in an Infantry unit that deployed to Afghanistan. Maybe it’s a different mentality than law enforcement, but not wanting to die seems like a cowardly, albeit legitimate stance to take if you’re in a life or death, combat situation. Just make sure you’re ready to turn in your badge and gun afterwards.

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u/kendie2 May 26 '22

Just make sure you’re ready to turn in your badge and gun afterwards.

this is the difference. These pieces of shit won't admit they were in the wrong.

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u/hunddo_snkrs May 26 '22

They ARE larping. militarization plays Into political legitimacy, it has no more purpose. It’s all about calling bluffs and satisfying the republicans

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u/MOOShoooooo May 26 '22

Try to protest their larping budget. You’ll see what the budget is actually intended for.

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u/HuskyFlatulence May 26 '22

Murderer kills nearly twenty innocent children.

Cops: asleep

Blacks/Hispanics/Asians protest against police brutality.

Cops: unleash full destructive power

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u/DarknessRain May 26 '22

and waste all of the ammo shooting an attacker? I don't think so! That ammo is for shooting peaceful protestors only!

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u/Commercial-Reason953 May 26 '22

40% of the cities budget to stand by and let children die

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u/TheReaIDude May 26 '22 edited May 27 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy

Its honestly pathetic. All of that military grade gear, outfitted like they're the fucking Navy Seals and yet they have zero intention of putting themselves in the firing line.

Cops in the US are basically a parody of themselves at this point, larping as Rambo whenever a black teenager has a dime bag but absent when literal infants are being gunned down.

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u/Doesntcheckinbox May 26 '22

All of that military grade gear, outfitted like they’re fucking Navy Seals and yet they have zero intention of putting themselves in the firing line.

They’ll jump at the chance to use it on you or me though the second we start protesting for our rights or injustice.

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u/graps May 26 '22

What’s hilarious is it’s Texas so the police union will say that “it was because of “Defund the police” that these officers didn’t have enough training and they need more money in the budget for these hero’s”. And once again, it’s Texas, so they’ll get it

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u/G_O_ifuR_ May 26 '22 Wholesome

Why isn't there a nation wide protest there, this is outright depressing, govt. should be answerable

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u/IndependentDry6244 May 26 '22

After the guy yells "he is shooting" you can hear a bunch of dull popping... were they really not rushing inside to get to the kids? I am so confused.

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u/Goalie_deacon May 26 '22

This is so upsetting. There's no way I wouldn't rush the cops to get in. I would rather go to jail, injured, than let my kid believe I didn't try. If I get killed by the shooter, better me than another kid.

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u/Lereas May 26 '22

You can see two people on the ground that tried that and were stopped by the cops. Because stopping parents with tasers was more important than stopping an active shooter in an elementary school.

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u/nanny6165 May 26 '22

I don’t even have kids but would rush past the cops to try to do something. It’s not even about trying to stop the shooter but about trying to get the uninjured kids out of the building and giving first aid to the injured kids. We will never know how many of the dead died because of the time it took to get care.

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u/peterhorse13 May 26 '22

I think this here is what bothers me the most. In a hostage situation, sure, I can understand restraint. And if they knew all of those children were dead and he was holding the adjacent class hostage, maybe I can see that too. But they didn’t know how many were dead or just injured. They didn’t know if or when he would start killing the remaining students. I feel like restraint and strategizing would have been the absolute worst decision in a case like this. And now we’ll never know how many children could have been saved if they had breached the door even 20 minutes earlier.

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u/SoyElReyPutos May 26 '22 Take My Energy

Border patrol had to take the lead and actually are the ones responsible for engaging and killing the shooter.

Uvalde PD needs to resign for such an innept response.

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u/8bitmorals May 26 '22

The Border Patrol guy was Off Duty

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u/SoyElReyPutos May 26 '22

Exactly, single OFF DUTY agent charged in, engaged the shooter, got shot in the process but managed to kill the little piece of shyte.

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u/Whos_the_NPC May 26 '22

Why tf isn’t that guys face all over the news?

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u/OldWhoFan May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

He is a federal border patrol agent on some kind of tactile response force, I'm guessing they don't want their faces in news papers because the drug and human smuggling cartels could target them.

edit: spell check failed me, meant to use the word tactical. I'll leave it because it is funny and we need a little harmless humor in our lives.

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u/Turbulent_Link1738 May 26 '22

One of my family members works for them. He makes it very clear whenever we hang out no photos go online.

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u/Bearslovecheese May 26 '22

The scariest part of the cartel isn't what they will do to you. It's what they will do to every child, parent, aunt, grandparent, cousin, etc if you oppose them.

The shit they'll do to you is scary, too.

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u/Disastrous-Seesaw-86 May 26 '22

While this is true cartels also know the blowback of killing federal agents it's not something they seek out see: the dea going psycho after kiki (SP?) Was killed. It's bad for business.

Just don't be a federal agent on the Mexican side

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u/GrannyGumjobs13 May 26 '22

Yes the kiki camarena murder, and the reaction from the DEA afterwards, set a real tone to the cartels. “U kill our agents, we will fuck. U. Up.”

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u/noviag May 26 '22

Makes u wonder why they wait for am agent to be killed to do something, meanwhile regular citizens dont seem to matter.

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u/Surly_Cynic May 26 '22 Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote

It didn’t quite happen that way. That seems to have been misreported.

There were four Border Patrol agents, members of elite specialized units, who engaged and stopped the elementary school shooter, along with state and local officers, a Customs and Border Protection official told ABC News.

One agent, who was part of the Border Patrol Tactical Unit, or BORTAC, held a shield as the group pushed toward the gunman's incoming fire, the official said.

Two BORTAC agents discharged their weapons along with one member of the Border Patrol's Search, Trauma and Rescue unit -- all part of the group of four.

At least one BORTAC agent shot the gunman, although it's unclear who among them killed him, the official said.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/texas-school-shooting/?id=84952985

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u/buffalo171 May 26 '22

Yet the shooter was in the school for 30 minutes before being taken down??

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u/AlwaysDeadAlwaysLive May 26 '22

CNN just reported up to a hour…

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u/bell37 May 26 '22

Was ~40 minutes IIRC

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u/Surly_Cynic May 26 '22

Longer than 30 minutes it sounds like. May have been closer to an hour. Cops should have gone in without waiting for the tactical team but even after deciding to use the tactical team, that team should have gone in much sooner. Complete incompetence.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

They prioritized their personal safety over than of 6 year olds. Fuck them

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u/elnenchimexicano69 May 26 '22

Only thing coming out of their PD is an internal "investigation", say they were following protocol , call it a day.

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u/pppjurac May 26 '22

"Sir Mayor, we were unable to locate keys to our Cougar MRAP, sir!"

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u/IllegalSpaceBeaner May 26 '22 edited May 27 '22

Following protocol is Cop-Speak for "We get to avoid responsibility". Even if they were found at fault, only a couple would lose their jobs and the tax payers are the ones resposible for the whole thing anyways. Adding salt to the wounds these parents already have.

Edit: r/protectandserve banned me then cried to reddit and I'm now suspended 3 days for correcting their lies

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u/cornejo26 May 26 '22

May be a dumb question but why did the border patrol take the lead? Just more brave and competent?

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u/VinkoBogatajsSkis May 26 '22

Elite Border Patrol Tactile unit, BORTAC agents who are among the most highly trained federal agents

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/uvalde-texas-gunman-border-patrol-b2087386.html

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u/bct7 May 26 '22

The city SWAT team should be fired then.

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u/ithinkitwasmygrandma May 26 '22

Full on police failure. Why have any of them if this is what a response looks like. They actually kept people away from rushing the shooter. They fucking made it worse.

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u/ttaptt May 26 '22

What I can't wrap my head around is that not a single individual cop had the fortitude to say FUCK THIS and run in there against "orders" or "protocol" or whatever the fuck excuse. Just standing around like the ineffectual posers they are. My rage has no bounds.

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u/VinkoBogatajsSkis May 26 '22

Also this article

Elite border patrol agent killed Texas school shooter: https://nypost.com/2022/05/25/elite-border-patrol-agent-killed-texas-school-shooter-salvador-ramos-reports/

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u/typi_314 May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22 Gold Helpful

Jesus. Took an off duty federal agent to do the job. While local law enforcement was pursuing him the whole time.

They seriously need a no holds barred federal investigation, especially since it took the feds to respond.

EDIT: After some research I realized this doesn’t represent the actual picture and more details are needed before we know what actually happened. Based off of the most complete timelines I could find from news articles here a condensed version:

Timeline of events

1121 Ramos texts girl in Germany that he had killed his Grandmom and is going to shoot up an elementary school.

Grandmom survives, rushes to neighbors house and calls the cops. She’s still in critical condition.

1130 The shooter crashes car at Rob Elementary. Resident sees crash and calls 911, noting that the driver has a rifle.

Shooter fires on two bystanders

The shooter wearing body armor tactical vest, engages with a school district police officer, wounding the officer EDIT: this detail has changed. According to Texas Department of Public Safety spokesman Chris Olivarez reported by CNN, "A school resource officer who was on the scene was armed, but it was unclear if the officer fired or what he did in response to the suspect's entry, Olivarez said."

Shooter enters school through unlocked door pursued immediately by cops according to Olivarez.

WP reports conflicting accounts when shooting began, whether closer to 1130 or 1200.

1143 the school announces on FB that they are in lockdown.

1153 on public transmission used by EMS someone reports police request response to the area. As response was discussed on official is noted saying “Please, just stay back.”

Border patrol and other units start to appear on scene

1210 FB livestream shows police perimeter, helicopters, and onlookers outside.

1217 School announces on social media “an active shooter at Robb Elementary.”

1252 Shots were still being heard at 12:52 p.m., according to radio recordings. “Do not attempt to get closer,” a voice warned on the EMS channel.

From the Washington Post:

“After hearing gunfire, authorities said, a tactical team formed a “stack” formation and eventually breached the classroom door and killed Ramos in a shootout. Ramos was in the room for some time before police officers entered, and it was unclear whether he killed the students when he first barricaded himself inside or just before the police breached the room.”

1:06 Uvalde Police announce on social media attack is over

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/us/2022/05/25/shooter-text-messages-germany-uvalde-texas-vpx.cnn

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/25/reconstruction-timeline-uvalde-school-shooting/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/25/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-what-we-know/index.html

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u/Roshambo_You May 26 '22

Not sure if someone else has said anything but the shooter wasn’t wearing body armor just a plate carrier with no plate.

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u/ithinkitwasmygrandma May 26 '22

It needs to be investigated and then we all need to thoroughly put the idea that "more police will keep us safe" to bed.

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u/SnitterGrits May 26 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

“Your children are as good as gone….now, if you don’t get back and chill out, you will be tased then choked to death.”

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u/crumbycanadianpoutin May 26 '22

"The beatings will continue, until morale improves."

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u/conglock May 26 '22

“Your children are as good as gone….now, if you don’t get back and chill out, you will be tased then choked to death.”

"Watch your god-damned tone, citizen"(proceeds to shove 8 sprinkled donuts in their mouth while tazing a minority)

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u/SnitterGrits May 26 '22 Silver Brighten My Day

“If everyone will just calm the fuck down, Ted Cruz will be here shortly to fix this problem.”

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u/mk_brownie May 26 '22 All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy

40% of the city's budget

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u/ithinkitwasmygrandma May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

...to stand outside a locked room and listen to slaughter. WTF.

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u/Morgn_Ladimore May 26 '22

Saw a quote somewhere that the cops were like "We have him contained"

When the shooter locked himself in the classroom

With the kids

Just...what???

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u/NegaDeath May 26 '22

Not to worry, the fox is safely contained in the hen house!

If it doesn't make sense with animals there's no fucking way it works with people.

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u/Jomihoppe May 26 '22

To lock a fox in a henhouse and say "he'll tire himself out eventually"

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u/tbrfl May 26 '22

Remember this next time cops excuse illegal and petty directives in the name of officer safety.

Officer safety is cowardice. Public safety is courage.

These police are cowards and worse than useless.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

I saw an interview on PBS a couple of weeks ago where a school administrator explained why they don't have "school resource officers" anymore.

Every one of them had improper relationships with students. Every one.

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u/transcendanttermite May 26 '22

We don’t have them in our district anymore either. Not because of improper relationships with students, but because they couldn’t stop sexually harassing (and in some cases sexually assaulting) the teachers & staff.

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u/fishygamer May 26 '22

The only thing our SRO did in my 4 years was arrest a group of kids who were playing instruments at lunch time. Every fight was broken up by teachers. Such a colossal waste of money.

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u/zixwax May 26 '22

My SRO attacked a kid who threw a tray of chicken nuggets at him

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u/Babagadooosh May 26 '22

My SRO called in his own fake bomb threat so he didn’t have to go to school that day

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u/TinyTaters May 26 '22

They also don't do shit. Period. They're an absolute waste of money and a false sense of safety

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u/Hammer_of_Light May 26 '22

Our HS SRO would get involved in bullying situations and always take the bully's side.

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u/MrShasshyBear May 26 '22 Silver Gold

They gotta look out for future cops

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u/MoveLikeABitch May 26 '22

Truth. My HS's biggest bully became the cop in that town. He used to show his dick to girls in class and grabbed me and kissed me on the lips once without consent or warning. He was and I'm assuming still is trash

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

Imagine what that fucker does on duty

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u/BirdSnotBreakfast May 26 '22

Lol my HS had an SRO and when i got called to the office to have a chat about why my step sister had a black eye (we fought) it wasnt even the SRO from my school or her school that talked to me. They were nowhere to be found.

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u/tophiii May 26 '22

And 40 minutes to enter the building.

Is this the holy trinity of the “40 club”? We all know what the other 40 is

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u/Slackman0000 May 26 '22

cops that are 40lbs overweight?

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u/Whatifim80lol May 26 '22

40 percent reported beating their wives.

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u/iarev May 26 '22

40% of police self-report beating their wives* lol

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u/imjustatechguy May 26 '22 Silver

It’s already been ruled in court after a lawsuit that followed the Stoneman shooting. They’re not legally obligated to run in and save anyone, which is a load of shit IMO.

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u/Juuliath00 May 26 '22 Silver

Isn’t that literally what you sign up to do as a cop? These fucking cowards

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u/2pacalypso May 26 '22

They sign up to say they'll put their lives on the line, not actually do it.

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u/TheWoolyOne858 May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22 Silver Table Slap

So it’s like a pledge vs donations thing got it

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u/wolfdancer May 26 '22

No. You sign up because you wanna feel powerful and bully other people cause you peaked in high school.

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u/ilikesaucy May 26 '22

Also provide security to rich people or political leaders

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u/lost_in_aus84 May 26 '22

So much for the whole " let's have armed guards and arm the teachers and gun free zones" fucking nonsense. Not even trained cops want anything to do with it.

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u/Boonebeach1852 May 26 '22 All-Seeing Upvote Starry

Can you imagine if the fire department showed up and hid behind their truck. Could you imagine if a beach lifeguard yelled out to a drowning victim that they had to wait till the waves calmed down.

Cowards. All their tools and training are apparently just for show……

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u/R1ppedWarrior May 26 '22

If firefighters were like cops the 9-11 firefighters would've just watched the twin towers fall from the outside.

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u/JohnnyMiskatonic May 26 '22

"Looks dangerous, we're going to stay out here."

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u/hadoken12357 May 26 '22 Silver Gold Helpful All-Seeing Upvote This

If they aren't for stopping the slaughter of children, then what are they for?

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u/Rotton_Bananas05 May 26 '22 Gold All-Seeing Upvote Bravo Grande!

Speeding tickets

Stopping people from smoking weed

That’s about all they do

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u/Ohtar1 May 26 '22 Silver

They don't need guns for that

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u/Cj47117 May 26 '22 Starry

How would they shoot innocent people or dogs then? You, sir, are making no sense at all.

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u/Notmybestusername3 May 26 '22 Silver

We need to double their funding so they can shoot a dog at the wrong house faster

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u/geeky_username May 26 '22

That property isn't going to forfeit itself!

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u/Electronic-Duck-3876 May 26 '22

Yeah they do. It’s why they join. So they can feel like a badass pointing a gun at you when they pull you over for a speeding ticket in a little town like mine that’s had ONE shooting in my 44 years of existence and the most violent things that happen are the occasional bar fight that lasts 2 minutes at most.

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u/ImVeryOffended May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22 Silver Gold All-Seeing Upvote Starry

That's not fair. They also:

  • Steal money and personal property

  • Beat/murder homeless people and others who live or look different than they do

  • Murder women who call 911 for help

  • Beat their wives/children

  • Beat other peoples' wives/children

  • Storm the US Capitol to try to murder elected officials in order to keep Donald Trump in office

  • Spread QAnon and other far-right conspiracy theories, and protect far-right terrorists and cultists

  • Chuck flashbang grenades into infants' cribs after raiding the wrong address, permanently disfiguring them, and then refuse to punish the officer or even cover the medical bill, and blame the parents.

  • Raid and destroy (or sometimes, burn down) the wrong house, then refuse to pay for damages

  • Harass people who try to report their crimes

  • Harass the victims of other crimes

  • Rape women and girls, and sometimes arrest them afterwards (see undercover police soliciting sex workers, having sex with them, then arresting them for it - all with the full blessing of the police department)

  • Stalk and trade pictures of rape victims, trafficking victims, sex workers, and other vulnerable members of society

  • Kill your pets

  • Cover up other cops' crimes

  • Drive drunk

  • ...and so much more.

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u/BoxBopChallenge May 26 '22

Yeah my ex was a cop. The amount of gaslighting and emotional abuse was astounding. At the time, I blamed myself. When I finally escaped that situation, it didn’t take long to realize how much of a monster he truly was.

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u/floandthemash May 26 '22

My cousin’s ex was a cop, was abusive and cheated on her.

My coworker’s husband’s a cop, has intimidated her in the past and when she threatened to call the cops, he told her they’d believe him over her.

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u/automotivewriter May 26 '22

My father was a cop, your story checks out.

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u/chamomilehoneywhisk May 26 '22

I had a fucking cop threaten to shoot my dog who was in my backseat barking at him when he pulled me over to let me know a taillight was out. That’s minor compared to most of what they do but I was never more shocked in my life. She was in my car and a strange man was at the window, what was she supposed to do?

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u/Minimum_Escape May 26 '22

She was in my car and a strange man was at the window, what was she supposed to do?

Your dog was supposed to respect Officer Napoleon Complex's authoritah of course!

Cops demand obedience and they are issued a gun so when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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u/Wallaby_Way_Sydney May 26 '22

Except when an actual nail appears, then they're terrified the nail might poke them.

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u/ravenfire47 May 26 '22

Dog murder, lots of dog murder

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u/baaaaaannnnmmmeee May 26 '22

Don't forget about arresting women who have miscarriages.

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u/livefreeordont May 26 '22

Beating up protestors

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u/AdamantiumBalls May 26 '22

And no knock raids are no problem, but they can't raid a gunman locked in a room killing kids

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u/karangoswamikenz May 26 '22

This is the truth. The police are not there to serve and protect people. They exist to keep order so that the system can keep exploiting people to make the rich.

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u/Guy_Incognito1970 May 26 '22

Check the video of abbots news conference getting crashed, over a dozen armed officers there to protect him. But he’ll do nothing for kids

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u/nomadfoy May 26 '22

Protecting the property of the upper class.

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u/KalashniKEV May 26 '22

We already learned this lesson from the Broward Cowards.

The only thing that limits casualties in a spree killing is the arrival of armed response.

If you wait outside and don't action the threat, then you are just taking up space and making the situation worse.

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u/s_0_s_z May 26 '22

The epitome of cowardly pieces of shit. They have more armor and guns than a 3rd world nation. They will act all tough to average citizens on the street doing nothing wrong, but when the time comes to actually use those weapons which they use to intimidate folks with, they just sit outside as nearly 2 dozen people are shot.

Pieces. Of. Shit.

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u/graps May 26 '22

The guy in the blue polo with $5K of tactical equipment on paid for by tax payers looking utterly confused is the perfect metaphor for this

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u/ARsNdAks May 26 '22

Those initial cops that arrived that did not go in when witnesses had initially told them about what was going on should resign. What a failure on their part.

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u/InuFan4yasha May 26 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote

To protect and serve... Themselves

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u/PilotNextDoor May 26 '22

" Go in there? Are you mad? he's got a gun!"

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u/Waluigi3030 May 26 '22

"You idiots! You all have guns!"

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u/jwarmitage May 26 '22

This is absurd! What is the point of cops having guns if they aren’t going to use them in mass shootings

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u/Dasf1304 May 26 '22

They do, just not to stop them.

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u/69yourMOM May 26 '22

I love how Abott said “could have been worse with out guns.” Here are your guns sir…

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u/Plurpulurp May 26 '22

Did he really say that about this specific shooting??

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u/seattlite_satellite May 26 '22

This is so hard to watch man..

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u/charlesml3 May 26 '22

This is so hard to watch man..

I particularly love the cop standing there with his taser unholstered. Want to take a guess as to WHO he was planning to tase?

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u/binarypower May 26 '22

he tased the guy on the ground. they literally tased a parent that was grieving

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u/Oxygenius_ May 26 '22

Ofc these fuckers are aggressive with unarmed civilians….

But the fucker who is in there shooting kids, nah, they will just let him be.

Fucking cowards

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u/Sea-Phone-537 May 26 '22

Every single officer who responded and yet did not do the duty responsible of them, should face charges ranging from dereliction of duty too negligent homicide.

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u/lemonhops May 26 '22

WTF was the strategy here, wait til he runs out of bullets? I thought after Columbine they're supposed to rush in there...

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u/kernel-troutman May 26 '22

Considering most cops “fEaR fOr My lIfE” when there is a kid with a squirt gun or a small dog wagging its tail it’s impossible to fathom how much terror these blue lives felt.

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u/bct7 May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

There are now reports that some cops arrived on scheme and removed their kid from classrooms. If this is true, there is a more serious problem. They didn’t help evacuate classrooms. They didn’t stop the shooter. They didn’t secure the scene, they rescued their child. Please tell me this is not true.

Video of cop

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u/pellanune May 26 '22

if you aren’t mad enough just remember these pigs left the shooter in the school long enough that he shot some kids in the head so many times they were unrecognizable and they had to be ID’d by parents using shoes

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u/motorbike-t May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

Thank the cops for their service. Fearlessly threatening to taze the parents of children who are literally under attack at that moment.

Vest: ✅

AR 15: ✅

40% of the town budget: ✅

Actually do the scary thing: 👎

WE HAVE LOST SIGHT OF THE OBJECTIVE. AS A COUNTRY WE ARE SLOWLY SLIDING INTO SOME SHIT. AND I FOR ONE AM ANXIOUS FOR THE FRAY.

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u/pranitzambre May 26 '22

System Status: Broken.

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u/Nappeal May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

Each of these cowards need to be publicly named and shamed. 19 lives lost because of their cowardice...they don't deserve anonymity.

Edit: 22 lives lost

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u/Dweebys May 26 '22

If there was an unborn fetus they would of done everything to save it.

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u/the-electricgigolo May 26 '22

Cops they’re never there when you need them. Or I guess sometimes they’re there and do nothing…

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u/MonkeyGeorge1 May 26 '22

Finland had two school shootings within two years, killing 10+1 and 8+1.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kauhajoki_school_shooting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jokela_school_shooting

After these, the Finnish have put a lot of effort in not only making gun laws more strict, but also in training every police officer for these situations.

The Number One rule: the first police patrol(s) on site will rush the school. No waiting for a local SWAT (Karhu) or doing briefings and making a strategy. Idea here is that an active shooter will not stop until stopped and every second can mean a new victim.

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u/KungKnugen May 26 '22

Same in Sweden, and it actually worked when a man roamed a school and killed a student and two staff with a sword.

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx May 26 '22

Isn't this similar to what happened in Florida, where the cop stayed in his car?

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u/Gelato_Mulatto May 26 '22

Yes, but worse. That was one cop and this is seemingly half of the department. And that Parkland cop didn’t tackle and pin any parents to the ground or threaten them with tasers.

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u/tophiii May 26 '22 Gold All-Seeing Upvote

“A good guy with a gun would have prevented this”

The “good guys” with guns, paid for by a lion’s share of that city’s annual budget couldn’t be bothered to prevent this or even move swiftly to neutralize this. Disgraceful.

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u/Micronator May 26 '22

Should have told the cops the shooter was black...

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u/engineerbuilder May 26 '22

Or having an abortion.

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u/JUST_LOGGED_IN May 26 '22

I had to use the find tool to see my local high school on here, and sure enough it is on here. That makes me feel sick

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