r/TooAfraidToAsk Founder & Mod May 17 '22 Silver 2 Helpful 5 Faith In Humanity Restored 1 Wholesome Seal of Approval 1

Ignorance of the rules is not a defense - Telling a user a method to commit suicide will result in a permanent ban. Meta

Edit: this is not up for debate

Your job before using a Subreddit is to be familiar with the rules to ensure you do not end up having your content removed (mild) to being on the receiving end of a ban (severe).

Given the nature of the offense, this type of infraction is not liable for a warning nor is it liable to the defense of “but I didn’t know!”

This stance has zero to do with personal belief regarding assisted-suicide, which would imply the use of a medical provider operating within evidence-based approaches to help with end-of-life. This stance is in regards to largely uninformed Redditors, of unverifiable credentials, offering “advice” with methodology that is not evidence-based nor generally is it without risk.

Were medically-assisted suicide pan-legal across every single State, it would still not be allowed for users to give methods to others on how to kill themselves.

Your individual beliefs have nothing to do with this discussion, has nothing to do with adhering to rules in order to participate within a sub and further has no bearing on your ability to support medically-assisted suicide, of which a Reddit comment is not, across various discussions.

However, If you tell a user a method to kill themselves, you will be banned and your comment will be escalated for additional review by Reddit admins.

You should know better than to provide someone potentially suicidal with methods to kill themselves, and if you can’t have that inherent moral compass then you should be able to gander at the multiple places our rules are plastered before engaging within this sub.

Thanks to the rest of you with enough common sense that this message will seem ridiculous, keep on keeping on.

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u/kilerwhale May 17 '22

What happend?

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u/Hospitalities Founder & Mod May 17 '22

Uptick in incidences of people asking for suicide methods and users sharing methods, then mod mail getting spammed by people upset because they “didn’t know”.

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u/ThemChecks May 17 '22

That shit will get the police involved here. People are fucking crazy

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u/kcasper May 18 '22

Police can't actually do anything, or at least in the USA. Neither reddit or the moderators are responsible for content posted.

It is the same reason medical forums are untouchable and lawsuits would get thrown out if people died due to bad advice.

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u/yesalrightokayfine Jun 06 '22

Chargeable offence in Aus. 🇦🇺

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u/Mahzikeen Jun 15 '22

Can’t do anything here in Canada either :( We have tried…

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u/crempsen May 17 '22

That people actually give info like that… then again, those are either psychos or also very depressed people

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u/RedsVSAs May 31 '22

Too many psychos here

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u/Phototoxin May 18 '22

Can we post hilarious but clearly non-functional methods?

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u/Bob_knots May 20 '22

Like eat a lot of salt, or don’t poop for 6 weeks

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u/Cautious-Damage7575 Jun 07 '22

I once made a poop can. It was grossly impressive.

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u/Bob_knots May 25 '22

Hahahaha

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u/purpleflower22 May 29 '22

Eating a lot of salt would kill you tho...

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u/shaikmudassir May 29 '22

Eating lots of asses?

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u/Stalbjorn Jun 08 '22

How tiny is the shaker you were picturing? In my mind that looks like one huge bite of food if it contains the whole shaker.

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u/Ferbuggity Jun 10 '22

Thank you for being vigilant and responsible.

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u/w-agyimi May 17 '22

What did I just read, is this for real??

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u/SmokeyShine May 18 '22

Definitely. It's a dumb question, and dumb to answer, so of course it's happening on Reddit.

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u/Euphoric_Reply_1058 May 21 '22

It's not a dumb question, it's hard to find resources when your constantly shown a hotline number on the internet.

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u/SmokeyShine May 21 '22

No, it's an incredibly stupid question, because Google instantly gives more than just a phone number. Anybody who spends the barest minimum of time doing research will find out what works. Thus, it's stupid to answer the question, when you're not actually 'helping', but you're just getting yourself in trouble.

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u/Euphoric_Reply_1058 May 21 '22

Nah, I've looked quite a bit and never really found what I was looking for. Unless you're using like tor browser or something I don't see how you're getting better results.

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u/SoItWasYouAllAlong Jun 03 '22

You are correct. The claim that "asking X is stupid because Google readily returns an answer" rests on the faulty premise that Google returns the same results when presented with the same query.

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u/Euphoric_Reply_1058 May 25 '22

Well I found answers but not the kind I was looking for. They mostly required things I didn't have or were just excruciating ways of doing it.

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u/Euphoric_Reply_1058 Jun 08 '22

Anyone who needs help, look up the book Final Exit. It's written to combat the idea that you have to suffer in your last moments.

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u/PickleEmergency7918 May 17 '22

Even if telling someone to kill themselves is not explicitly against the rules in a given space, DON'T FREAKING DO IT. No one is perfect and we are all on our own journeys to become better people, but telling someone to commit suicide is NEVER ACCEPTABLE.

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u/Fortyplusfour May 17 '22

It's also a potential violation of David's Law, in the US. May get a knock on your door for seemingly encouraging suicide (especially of a minor) online.

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u/ThEtZeTzEfLy May 21 '22 Silver

Why? I legit don't get this. it does not have to do with journeys or perfection. if I wanted to kill myself, I would appreciate someone giving me an efficient method. it does not mean that if someone doesn't, I will no go along with a worse, shittier, mote painful method.

It's just you imposing your point of view on the matter of someone else's life and death, because you somehow know better. And if you have this freedom, why shouldn't someone of the opposite conviction be able to express their strong point of view that 'Hey, this is an effective method to do the deed'?

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u/ZeldaNut93 May 21 '22

It's not though. It's not just a matter of personal choice. These people are in a bad place mentally. Most of them want to live but see no reason to keep trying. They're spent. How do I know? I'm going through depression myself. I've seen people at that point. But these issues in life can be solved. Happiness can be achieved in... like 98% of cases. If I was at that point, I wouldn't want people telling me "Oh hey, use this method. It's more effective." I'd want them to help me out of that situation. Sit with me until the thoughts pass, help me back up.

People don't inherently want to die. But in so, so, so many of these cases it's seen as the only option because living is suffering.

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u/RadiantHC May 22 '22

But these issues in life can be solved.

Not always. And even for the ones that can be solved, a lot of the time it isn't easy.

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u/ZeldaNut93 May 23 '22

Hello horrifically toxic person number 2.

... Yes. Most of them can. And "easy" is beside the point. Nothing in life worth doing is easy. But fucking killing yourself is virtually never the answer.

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u/RadiantHC May 23 '22

How is it toxic? All I'm saying is that you should have control over when you want to end your life. You aren't entitled to someone else being alive.

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u/Idontsuckcompletely Jun 19 '22

Depression is a potentially treatable condition which renders you incapable of making informed decisions about your future while in a major depressive episode. Thus, offering advice for someone on how to kill themselves, without first recommending treatments to help them regain their capacity for medical decision making is unethical. Hospice and palliative care doctor here, big believer in autonomy and physician assisted suicide in terminally ill patients who DO have the capacity to decide . For the most part depression is a relapsing and remitting disease and should be treated. Oh and by the way when I was a regular family doc, no one asked me to kill them more often than women in labor . I also asked them to be patient before offering physician assisted suicide

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u/Bobinska May 23 '22

Good bot

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u/ZeldaNut93 May 23 '22

You see why there's a bot for this? You see how much people care? ... Fuck how are you this insensitive? You're a disgusting person. You don't fucking encourage it. "Entitled to someone else being alive" you fucking dunce. This isn't about me. This is about them. Would you provide me with methods of suicide because guess what jackass, I've been there!! Have you? Do you have any experience in this at all? Or is this just your uneducated self-righteous opinion? I'm done with this. Thanks for showing the world how uncaring you are. I hope you never have any close friends. For your own sake.

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u/Penisdestroyer7mil Jun 19 '22

To be honest it sounded very plausible they were speaking from experience and from wishing stuff like that for themselves. It seems like a bad idea to call them a disgusting person and wishing they never have close friends when we can't be sure what their situation is like

Don't know if the deleted messages from this thread may change my opinion

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u/JrForgetFull69 May 23 '22

How is he being horrifically toxic when he’s just putting his input? Stfu you dick. And go ahead and call me horrifically toxic too

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u/shooteen Jun 09 '22

To me it's the answer if u don't feel like dealing with it at all

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

98% is an… optimistic… estimate. What about the ones that can’t be solved?

It’s something of a safety valve - “just in case”. That’s what tempts people to go online scouring for ways to kill themselves.

To be clear, I understand the reasoning behind not giving people suicide methods online. I’m just saying, do you really think that 100% of cases of people who want to die have solvable problems? How? Seriously asking - what’s your reasoning for thinking this?

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u/Penisdestroyer7mil Jun 19 '22

Ah that safety valve analogy resonates a lot with me. When I first went around scouting around how to do the deed I felt really hopeless when I realized I most likely wouldn't be able do it (due to various phobias). Before that I had always thought "well at least if it gets too bad I can do it". Afterwards I felt very trapped

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u/BibleBeltAtheist Jun 09 '22

Knee jerk, reactionism at its finest.

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u/RadiantHC May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

I don't get why people are entitled to others being alive. It's selfish to force people to suffer.

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u/fyrnael May 29 '22

That's not the point. The point is the vast majority of people who are suicidal don't actually want to die, they're just in a desperate and potentially psychotic state. If they live and get past that, they won't want to be dead, but if you help them be dead then they'll never get there.

The way to be helpful is to help them get past this situation, not to help them die.

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u/shooteen Jun 09 '22 edited Jun 09 '22

tbh that sounds about right for most situations, yet I still consider your life to be your own responsibility so if you feel like kys, allowing it also sounds right. Idk, even though I'm pretty happy rn I don't consider it to be as bad as some try to put it, I even respect it in some scenarios

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u/Ferbuggity Jun 10 '22

People who are severely mental ill or mood disordered aren't in a place to make clear decisions for themselves. This is why the law allows it for people to get sectioned for suicide attempts, against their will.

Assisting ill people to harm themselves is manipulative and wrong, and could quite rightfully end up in a murder or manslaughter charge, depending on where they live.

If you, and the others here saying "let them do it" really, actually cared about these people's wellbeing and true wishes, you'd guide them toward means of getting help for their mental and emotional health rather than supporting the harmful illness that is trying to kill them.

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u/Cautious-Damage7575 Jun 07 '22

entitled to others being alive

I'm not following this phraseology. Does it mean "being responsible for" others being alive?

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u/tacbacon10101 Jun 14 '22

I agree with you that it is imposing a view and a morality on others. But i think it is a wonderful view to impose. Religious or not, atheist or not, the truth is we don’t know what happens when you die. All we know is your life is over, your decisions are over. That was the last one you’ll ever make. So it is a very good thing to try to stop someone from killing themselves. Because their situation may change, and they may be able to make something better of their life. But if they were dead, it’s no longer possible.

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u/Cautious-Damage7575 Jun 07 '22

I would appreciate someone giving me an efficient method

Isn't this something you can get from Google in, like, 5 minutes? Why bring it to a public forum, millions of people, unless it's a cry for help?. It's not like you can get recommendations from people who were successful at it.

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u/Hospitalities Founder & Mod May 17 '22

what about telling someone HOW to do it painlessly and cleanly

What is it about "any suicide methodology will result in a permanent ban" that is unclear?

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u/Orangebeardo May 19 '22

How do you even draw a line on this?

It is obviously encouraging suicide if I were to encourage someone to drink bleach. But all activities have a risk of death, drinking bleach just approaches 100%. What about telling someone to swim with aligators (90%)? What about something with 80% chance of death? 50%? 20%? 5%?

Full disclosure: I'm obviously not telling anyone to do any of these things.

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u/Hospitalities Founder & Mod May 19 '22

Pretty easily actually -

Is the OP asking for methods to commit suicide? If yes, does your comment endorse a method for them to commit suicide? If yes, ban.

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u/Steerider May 29 '22

Funny concidence, I'm going swimming with alligators this afternoon. They're domesticated pet alligators, so there's 60% chance I'm 100% safe

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u/Ferbuggity Jun 10 '22

Have you got like, zero things better to do with your day?

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u/Jade_CarCrash May 17 '22

Aye he was just asking, your post was unclear. I was under the impression that you were talking about trolls coming in and saying 'lmao kys!!!'

I didn't realise it was people actually seeking painless methods (which is a whole other moral ball game)

In any case, I'll follow the rules, just defending a relatively fair question.

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u/Hospitalities Founder & Mod May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22

It's unclear from the title of "telling a user a method to kill themselves" means that telling a user a method to kill themselves will result in a ban or is it unclear from the several times I specifically state that telling someone a method to kill themselves will result in a permanent ban?

What's unclear for you?

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u/GoshDarnit02496 May 17 '22

To be fair, I read the title really fast and I thought it said "telling a user to kill themselves". Had to reread the title again after the post lol

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u/vendettaonreddit May 17 '22

No it wasn't. The post was incredibly clear and in depth, you clearly just didn't actually read it.

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u/Jade_CarCrash May 17 '22

Alright fair enough

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u/Cautious-Damage7575 Jun 07 '22

telling someone to commit suicide is NEVER ACCEPTABLE.

I thought the violation was offering recommendations to people soliciting a suggested method?

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u/AmunPharaoh May 18 '22

I find it most fascinating (and also depressing) how many people have so obviously failed to read/cannot understand what you are saying in this post. I do not envy the responsibilities of mods. It's the main thing keeping me from making my own sub. I don't have the patience lol.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '22

You've got to be fucking kidding. Are people here really telling others how to kill themselves. WTF is wrong with you people? You should be telling people to get professional help.

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u/Ranos131 May 17 '22

The fact that this had to be said in the first place is astounding. Then to see multiple people actually question it and see multiple comments that have been removed (presumably due to being highly inappropriate when questioning this post) is even more kind boggling.

Thank you to the mods doing their best to keep people safe from idiots on the internet.

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u/Hospitalities Founder & Mod May 18 '22

Lots of “but freeze peach”, people who didn’t take two seconds to actually read what I said or just straight up toxicity regarding this decision (which is not new, has been in place since 2014).

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u/amitym May 17 '22

There is a knowinger-than-thou school of pseudo-philosophy that encourages this kind of thing, it's why I don't read r/philosophy so much anymore. I expect OP has gotten a lot of nonsense DMs from self-righteous poseurs for this.

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u/SkinGetterUnderer May 27 '22

I think it’s awful that Reddit has that anti suicide hotline thing automatically sent to people.

That’s super fucked up, anyone has the ability to send someone a “hey is life hard for you because your opinion is bad?” letter.

That’s al it’s ever used for, as a fucking insult and a snide jab. I think that that shouldn’t be automatic and it should be something you opt into.

Edit: please don’t send me one now, because I would then have to call it and waste the time of some poor hotline person who might just be volunteering, that wouldn’t be fair to them

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u/Mr-Reapy May 17 '22

I am truly blown away by how tone deaf people are. What thoughts have to go through someone's head in order to lead them to the messed up conclusion that giving someone tips on how to end their lives is actually acceptable in any circumstance? I cannot and will not ever understand how this is even a discussion.

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u/Tungstenkrill May 17 '22

What thoughts have to go through someone's head in order to lead them to the messed up conclusion that giving someone tips on how to end their lives is actually acceptable in any circumstance? I cannot and will not ever understand how this is even a discussion.

Because assisted suicide to relieve suffering is a thing. Redditors are not the people to be giving this advice but sit with somebody you love dying from a long and painful cancer and tell me they don't have a right to choose when they want to tap out.

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u/senanthic May 18 '22

There’s a reason it’s MAID, not RAID.

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u/Ecstatic_Objective_3 May 18 '22

That is a very different thing, and should only be discussed, and/or decided between the patient, family, and provider. That also doesn’t have a place on Reddit.

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u/RadiantHC May 22 '22

But how is that different? Just because suffering isn't fatal doesn't mean that it's not suffering. As an example, imagine living with chronic pain your entire life. Or what if your entire body is paralyzed?

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u/Ecstatic_Objective_3 May 22 '22

I absolutely never said I was against assisted suicide, I understand the need for it. But assisted suicide is a very personal decision based on a number of factors, there are protocols in place, and approved medications to ensure it works with no pain or suffering. Telling someone on a public forum how to end their own life is irresponsible at best.

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u/Sad-Salamander-401 Jun 06 '22

I mean, until it is legalized in their country, the best they got is online advice. Hopefully not on Reddit though but it is a place where it is available.

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u/alot_of_hobbies22 Jun 04 '22

Even with being paralyzed or having chronic pain, there are ways and options to live a happy life, you can have someone help you around if you’re paralyzed. If you’re depressed and wanting to commit suicide there are people you can reach out to to be your escape hatch, it doesn’t have to end up with your family and friends sad that they lost someone who didn’t even try to get help from them. Offering ways to help someone kill themselves isn’t an excuse to help someone end their suffering, there other ways that can lead to a long and happy life.

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u/RadiantHC Jun 04 '22 edited Jun 04 '22

Even with being paralyzed or having chronic pain, there are ways and options to live a happy life, you can have someone help you around if you’re paralyzed

Not always. And even if there were it's not always worth it. That's like saying you get a million dollars but you get tortured for years first. Sometimes the negatives outweigh the positives. Not every life is worth living.

If you’re depressed and wanting to commit suicide there are people you can reach out to to be your escape hatch, it doesn’t have to end up with your family and friends sad that they lost someone who didn’t even try to get help from them

Not always. Not everyone has loved ones. And even if they do it's selfish to force someone to suffer.

other ways that can lead to a long and happy life.

Not always. Sometimes life just isn't worth it.

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u/Mr-Reapy May 17 '22

I don't know that I would consider that suicide, but that's just me.

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u/RadiantHC May 22 '22

Because life isn't always worth living. Sometimes suicide is genuinely the better option.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

“I want to die, you want to die, let’s help each other.”

Simple as that.

It’s very easy to get into that mindset when you are extremely depressed and have been ruminating on suicide for every waking minute.

If someone gave me a cyanide pill or another effective suicide method now - the morality of that decision aside - I’d still take it in a heartbeat.

Now imagine that someone had this sort of mindset whilst constantly being on suicide forums all day every day. I’m not condoning giving out suicide methods on Reddit of all places, I’m just saying, ‘tone deaf’ isn’t really the right way to approach it.

It might well look tone deaf to you, being on the surface. When one feels trapped in a submarine with no way up, it makes perfect sense to have an escape hatch.

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u/kimmieg13 Jun 01 '22

Thank you!

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u/CaughttheDarkness May 17 '22

It’s not just a rule of the sub, it’s a rule of the basic social contract.

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u/Edward3921 May 17 '22

U don't need to read rules to have common sense wtf

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u/Fortyplusfour May 17 '22

Potentially a violation of David's Law too, in the US.

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u/KDAdontBanPls May 18 '22

What about joke responses like “old age” or “kick a gorilla in the nuts” 😅

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u/TraditionalCook8316 May 23 '22

Well said, OP. There is absolutely no excuse for this. People have every opportunity in the world to gather this information that it is wrong to aide or abetting someone into suicide.

They just made a documentary about this on Hulu for God's sake. We have every opportunity to act as a decent human being. Yet the indecent have every opportunity at their fingertips to be an incredibly inhumane. There is no room for ignorance.

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u/EvasiveDice Jun 11 '22

Good way to get a sub reddit shut down involving the law. That's insane.

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u/bubble_boy09 Jun 18 '22

The fact that you even had to explain the zero tolerance policy on telling people methods of how to commit suicide is fucking insane.

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u/VerlinMerlin Jun 19 '22

And my trust in humanity just dropped to - 300 gazillion.

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u/Hospitalities Founder & Mod May 17 '22

If you directly reported it to Reddit admins, that’s a separate report pipeline than ours and does not specifically show up to us.

If you reported it through our channels, how do you know that nothing occurred regarding the report? I’m very interested in the veracity of this claim so please feel free to message us directly a link to this comment / interaction that you saw.

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u/ophaus May 17 '22

Unbelievable. Thanks for looking out for people!

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

Some information just should never be shared or discussed, at least not with strangers

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u/thetwitchy1 May 17 '22

How to make a bomb, how to kill yourself, and how to hide a body. Three things you never admit you know how to do.

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u/kcasper May 18 '22

Hiding a body is easy. Making it unfindable is a bit more difficult.

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u/Belzeturtle May 17 '22

Why would someone not admit they know how to kill themself?

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u/thetwitchy1 May 17 '22

Have you thought about it? About how you would do it? What specifically you would do, and why?

It freaks people out. And it gives them a lot more insight into you than you probably want them to have.

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u/Belzeturtle May 17 '22

Have you thought about it? About how you would do it? What specifically you would do

Of course.

and why

To spare myself and my loved ones the suffering.

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u/thetwitchy1 May 17 '22

Most people haven’t. Or, at least, most people I have talked to won’t admit to it. And they claim to be freaked out when I tell them I have.

Whether or not they’re telling the truth is another question entirely, but because of that it’s not something most people will willingly share.

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u/Vibe_on_420 May 17 '22

I've thought about it even had a road map planned out.

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u/Sad-Salamander-401 Jun 06 '22

Many of us do. And it is nice to know a method that'll reduce your suffering as little as possible and your families. If anything it dissuade me from doing anything impulsive. Don't die though.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

If only the site wide rules were consistent. If there’s one thing I’ve noticed about Reddit, it’s that the “rules” only apply when a mod/admin has a personal vendetta against a specific user.

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u/Hospitalities Founder & Mod May 18 '22

Good thing we’re discussing this subs specific rules then.

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u/AbinadiLDS May 17 '22

This hurts my heart in so many ways that this post was even necessary :(

Please anyone struggling reach out to a family member, church member, cop, medical professional, firefighter or heck me or anyone you feel comfortable talking to. Do not suffer alone. You are loved and it is worth continuing.

https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=onebox

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u/DollyPoppp May 17 '22

This is so unbelievably ridiculous. I can't even believe that this is something that needs to be said. How stupid and common sense deficient do you have to be to not abide by this very simple rule?? It's not even just stupidity, this is evil. Actively "helping" someone who's already suffering and increasingly vulnerable by giving them a guide on how to commit suicide is pure evil.

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u/Wannabebunny May 17 '22

Jesus Christ people do that? I probably shouldn't be surprised but I am.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

You're also breaking the rules by saying that

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u/Goiterr May 19 '22

Wow Bro thanks for your useless contribution to my comment

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u/Zonerdrone May 17 '22

If people want to do it then they'll find a way. You don't think it's better they get good information here than misinformation somewhere else?

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u/Goiterr May 17 '22

You think people get good information here? Your brain has rotted dude

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u/sneezingbees May 17 '22

Nope. People should be directed to mental health or medical resources, nothing else. This is truly basic common sense

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u/Zonerdrone May 17 '22

It's an option but it's not the only one. It is the preferable one but people have a right to choose for themselves. I won't tell another person they can't do that because of the way it would make ME feel.

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u/sneezingbees May 17 '22

It’s irresponsible to tell someone how to harm themselves, it’s dangerous and damaging and inconsiderate. You cannot accurately determine whether someone can benefit from mental health support, it’s not for you to decide whether someone is fit to “choose for themselves”

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u/Fortyplusfour May 17 '22

1) No telling if the information here is any better.

2) What is misinformation, in this case? Something that doesn't actually kill you? No.

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u/Representative_Art96 May 17 '22

Don't really participate in this, but what a way to kill the right to free speech

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

That’s not what right to free speech is and that right doesn’t even apply to a private company/organisation like Reddit and subreddits. Right to free speech (in the US btw, not internationally) is the right to criticise the government without government retaliation. It does NOT protect you from social consequences of your speech or make you immune from rules in non-government settings or rules pertaining to speech that has nothing to do with government

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u/guacamolehaha123 May 17 '22

If u think that encouraging people to kill themselves is speech that should be protected, ur an asshole

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u/Representative_Art96 May 17 '22

Not encouraging. The post is relating to someone asking for methods to kill oneself and then someone giving an answer. If you can't simply answer the question, this is bad for science as a whole.

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u/guacamolehaha123 May 17 '22

Why should people help others commit suicide??????

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u/Representative_Art96 May 17 '22

Why should a doctor deliver euthanasia to someone in pain? You'll find the answer to be very similar.

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u/Hospitalities Founder & Mod May 17 '22

Doctors providing euthanasia is the same as random people on the internet providing methods?

Go troll somewhere else buddy.

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u/muckdog13 May 17 '22

Anonymous Reddit users are not qualified to give medical advice to someone they’ve never met, especially when that advice is to harm themselves.

Imagine someone gives advice on how to commit suicide, it doesn’t work and it gives the person a chronic illness. Now they’re severely harmed by bad advice.

Is that moral for Reddit to support? No, I don’t think so. Medical advice should come from professionals in a professional setting.

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u/guacamolehaha123 May 17 '22

U can’t debate lord urself out of this one. It’s wrong to tell people to kill themselves or help them do it. That’s just plain simple! U r an idiot :)

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u/guacamolehaha123 May 17 '22

I didn’t know I needed to provide an argument on why u shouldn’t help people kill themselves. Your argument is so retarded it’s not even worth arguing against! The world is not going to end because u can’t provide someone a detailed outline on how to hang themselves! Get some help bro!

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u/cruiserman_80 May 18 '22

In Australia, website operators and even page owners are responsible for what gets posted. Even if was posted and later deleted without their knowledge.

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u/MrDoggif May 18 '22

A ban from reddit or the subreddit were they commented ?

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u/UnreasonablySalty May 30 '22

Sure works for me.

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u/PhD_Pwnology Jun 05 '22

Where do you find rules to sub reddit? ( not joking, I'm on mobile)

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u/BlazingFury009 Jun 06 '22

Is this actually happening?

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u/Early_Power_5366 Jun 10 '22

Can u take suicide questions out entirely it keeps coming up almost everytime Jesus...