Ignorance of the rules is not a defense - Telling a user a method to commit suicide will result in a permanent ban.

[u/Hospitalities]

Edit: this is not up for debate

Your job before using a Subreddit is to be familiar with the rules to ensure you do not end up having your content removed (mild) to being on the receiving end of a ban (severe).

Given the nature of the offense, this type of infraction is not liable for a warning nor is it liable to the defense of “but I didn’t know!”

This stance has zero to do with personal belief regarding assisted-suicide, which would imply the use of a medical provider operating within evidence-based approaches to help with end-of-life. This stance is in regards to largely uninformed Redditors, of unverifiable credentials, offering “advice” with methodology that is not evidence-based nor generally is it without risk.

Were medically-assisted suicide pan-legal across every single State, it would still not be allowed for users to give methods to others on how to kill themselves.

Your individual beliefs have nothing to do with this discussion, has nothing to do with adhering to rules in order to participate within a sub and further has no bearing on your ability to support medically-assisted suicide, of which a Reddit comment is not, across various discussions.

However, If you tell a user a method to kill themselves, you will be banned and your comment will be escalated for additional review by Reddit admins.

You should know better than to provide someone potentially suicidal with methods to kill themselves, and if you can’t have that inherent moral compass then you should be able to gander at the multiple places our rules are plastered before engaging within this sub.

Thanks to the rest of you with enough common sense that this message will seem ridiculous, keep on keeping on.

[u/ThEtZeTzEfLy]

Why? I legit don't get this. it does not have to do with journeys or perfection. if I wanted to kill myself, I would appreciate someone giving me an efficient method. it does not mean that if someone doesn't, I will no go along with a worse, shittier, mote painful method.

It's just you imposing your point of view on the matter of someone else's life and death, because you somehow know better. And if you have this freedom, why shouldn't someone of the opposite conviction be able to express their strong point of view that 'Hey, this is an effective method to do the deed'?

[u/ZeldaNut93 → u/ThEtZeTzEfLy]

It's not though. It's not just a matter of personal choice. These people are in a bad place mentally. Most of them want to live but see no reason to keep trying. They're spent. How do I know? I'm going through depression myself. I've seen people at that point. But these issues in life can be solved. Happiness can be achieved in... like 98% of cases. If I was at that point, I wouldn't want people telling me "Oh hey, use this method. It's more effective." I'd want them to help me out of that situation. Sit with me until the thoughts pass, help me back up.

People don't inherently want to die. But in so, so, so many of these cases it's seen as the only option because living is suffering.

[u/[deleted] → u/ZeldaNut93]

98% is an… optimistic… estimate. What about the ones that can’t be solved?

It’s something of a safety valve - “just in case”. That’s what tempts people to go online scouring for ways to kill themselves.

To be clear, I understand the reasoning behind not giving people suicide methods online. I’m just saying, do you really think that 100% of cases of people who want to die have solvable problems? How? Seriously asking - what’s your reasoning for thinking this?

[u/Penisdestroyer7mil → u/[deleted]]

Ah that safety valve analogy resonates a lot with me. When I first went around scouting around how to do the deed I felt really hopeless when I realized I most likely wouldn't be able do it (due to various phobias). Before that I had always thought "well at least if it gets too bad I can do it". Afterwards I felt very trapped

[u/Mittysgirl → u/Penisdestroyer7mil]

I find that when the idea of suicide gets fixed in my head, a single sleeping pill and going directly to sleep work best for me. While I sleep, the negative spiral of thought shuts down. I wake feeling better and generally glad I didn’t give in to my demons. My psychiatrist knows I do this and supports me. I’d never waste my precious sleeping pills in an attempt to end things. My stomach would just get pumped, the prescription revoked, and I’d never sleep again. That’d be far worse than death.