r/TooAfraidToAsk • u/LL112 • May 26 '22
Why do algorithms keep trying to get me to watch Joe rogan, Jordan peterson, and right wing commentary etc when I have no interest or affiliation with that stuff at all? Other
Ffs read the post you cretins im not saying Joe Rogan is right wing
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u/Vharlkie May 26 '22
I watched one Shakespeare play then suddenly started getting recommended videos about why women are ruining society by not replying to tinder messages. It's so weird
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u/AttackOfTheDave May 26 '22
If you watched The Taming of the Shrew, that’s pretty on-brand.
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u/Kaitensatsuma May 26 '22
The Algorithms that were touted as "revolutionary" and "advanced tech" are completely fucked and have the attention span of a newborn goldfish is why.
They also pay a lot of money for ad space.
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u/A_Topical_Username May 26 '22
I keep getting Prager U stuff..
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u/JakeFromFarmState1 May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
Careful. You might turn into a patriotic American.
Downvoted for sarcasm. Nice. That’s Reddit for ya’.
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u/Benegger85 May 26 '22
From Prager U?
Not likely...
He is against the separation of church and state, so he is against the very principle of the Constitution.
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u/A_Topical_Username May 26 '22
I think you misspelled idiot lol. But yeah. I don't hold any of those views.. they have like super trump cartoons where trump is a superhero. And it legit has like children propaganda indoctrination apps to fill your kid with far right views. And teach them that racism doesn't exist. Shit is insane. It looks and sounds like the insane radio xommercials from GTA.. I used to think the crazy stuff in GTA wasn't realistic.. nope apparently the GTA DEVS just modeled everything after the real world. No fiction. Even the access to weapons is about on par between GTA and IRL
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u/AjaIsHere May 26 '22
if thats true like why bro,i have the same ass problem
i dont care about right wing shit i dont even know what a right wing is i live in a small country in europe, we dont work like that here
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u/Solemn_Boat May 26 '22
i dont care about right wing shit
That's what they want you to do. They want to expose as much right wing information they can to you, in the hope that you pick it up and weave it into your own thoughts and constructed values. When that is achieved, that's where they won you over.
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u/AjaIsHere May 26 '22
Yeah but whats a right wing 😂, what are their beliefs
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u/Ippus_21 May 26 '22
There's a right wing in Europe. Neonazis, fascists, etc. Orban is right wing. Le Pen is right-wing.
They tend to be populist demagogues with an interest in weakening institutional checks on centralized power (like how Orban neutered Hungary's supreme court) and buddy up to authoritarian strongmen.
They believe in nationalism, they're usually anti-immigrant, anti-refugee. They generally don't believe in environmental regulation and tend to be anti-women's rights.
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u/AjaIsHere May 27 '22
Yep ok i talked to my father about it and yes i am (if i would live in america) a leftist, here we call that only a democrat
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u/KAKrisko May 26 '22
I get spammed with A) my own books, and B) things I've just bought - expensive things, like, "We see you just purchased a new printer. Here's another printer you might be interested in!" Also baby stuff because, apparently, I have a dog whose name is similar to a brand of baby clothing. Bizarre and worthless, I hope they're happy wasting their money.
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u/WallabyInTraining May 26 '22
Aww, give ol' pampers a few belly scratches from me <3
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u/KAKrisko May 26 '22
LOL! Kind of a great name, though...
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u/hastingsnikcox May 27 '22
But your own book???? Hysterical!! "Sir, has it come to your attention that someone with your same name wrote a book?" Strange reasoning and yup wasted money so makes it even better!
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u/KAKrisko May 27 '22
Yeah, I have a pretty unusual name, too, you'd think it would be difficult to make a mistake like that. I guess it's nice that it's being advertised.
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u/platypottamus May 26 '22
They hit you with stuff that's just clicked on the most for your demographic, unfortunately
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u/Aiizimor May 26 '22
I use the dont recommend this channel option and it helps for me
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u/ZebraSmith May 26 '22
I've done this for Kim k, Kayne West and Johnny Depp for so long and I still get news notifications about them
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u/ChopakIII May 26 '22 •
Well since you just commented about them they’re back in the rotation again /s
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u/El_Diablo_slsu May 26 '22
I did this on Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial and I still get plenty of videos about them when I open YouTube.
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u/whatevernamedontcare May 26 '22
Me too. Maybe Depp bought bot farm or something to push this shit because it's crazy how impossible it is to avoid that.
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u/neetykeeno May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22
I don't give two shits what happened with him and Heard... that's someone else's fucked up love life and it can stay between them and the courts. That's what we have courts for...a special place that deals with other people's illegal dysfunctional behaviour so we can get on with being happy.
No way should I have to spend all my time online being followed by the consequences of him abandoning the mother of his children.
I didn't fuck Amber and I shouldn't have to pay for someone else having fucked her. They are both infuriating people and at this point I think they deserve a locked room full of vodka bottles and eternity in it together.
And that, ultimately, will be the story of what happened. The push to make this escape the courtroom meant we got sick of them both.
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u/iownadakota May 26 '22
I never had to correct you tube recommendations until I watch 1 Chuck Norris film for nostalgia. Now I get ads for church groups, christian propaganda, and outright lies about planned parenthood. Also everything from Rogan, to u prager.
The other day I thought I was going crazy. It was Colbert, Rogan, Seth Meyers, prager kids, drag race, and stand up. You tube must think I'm some self hating queer or something.
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u/IronicAim May 26 '22
Good. You have to sit through commercials anyway, and now those ad $s are being wasted.
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u/the_facts_please May 26 '22
Holy shit, where tf is that option? I've been looking for a way to block /r/antiwork but nobody seems to know.
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u/iownadakota May 26 '22
You can't block r/antiwork. We are everywhere. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep.
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u/Formal_Bonus3123 May 26 '22
Looks like a lot of work for an antiworker
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u/beetsofmine May 27 '22
Yeah, I can appreciate worker's rights, but that antiwork mod sealed that sub as dumb lazy leftists for me and I'm a leftist. Literally memed themselves to death.
Workers rights yes, no work at all and expect to be respected by society financially and culturually no. Work, like this person pointed out, is necessary for a society to function. We need people to do those things, we should respect them financially/culturually and evaluate what safe work environments are for industries. We shouldn't have billionaires. People should have access to the education to whatever domains they want. People should have time outside of work to persue personal hobbies, recreation, health and family.
Work still needs to be done for a society to function. What's the end goal of anti-work? No matter what form of government or laws or regulations or priorities or whatever, work needs to be done for humans to survive. Which that anti-worker so helpfully pointed out. "Hey work is important for society to function." Thanks bro. What's your sub about then?
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u/fakemoose May 27 '22
I thought it was about not exploiting workers. But then I’ll see posts that go totally off the rails, so I don’t know.
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u/lqdizzle May 26 '22
Are you a guy between 18-34 who sometimes likes movies video games and porn? So are all the Peterson and rogan fans. Your primary demo is your primary demo. God help you if you’re straight and white too, the algorithm will jam those boys down your throat!
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u/IggZorrn May 26 '22
18-34 is a bit narrow. I'd say 20-45, straight males that spend a lot of time online is enough to be targeted. Bonus if you're white and single.
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u/prettyboyelectric May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
As a 34 year old the only one I get is Rohan because I used to watch him like 6 years ago before he started going conservative.
Edit Rogan!! Lol
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u/IggZorrn May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
I'm 35 and I get Peterson all the time! And I'm in a relationship and everything. Also, I literally thought you would get suggestions regarding the kingdom of Rohan, maybe a Theoden here, an Eomer there ...
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u/fakemoose May 27 '22
I love the fans here having a hissy fit and saying he’s not conservative. Yea okay…maybe once he was more centrist with a tendency to invite right leaning nut jobs on sometime. But then he got sucked into their bullshit that ship sailed.
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u/pretty_gauche6 May 26 '22
I’m a 24 year old woman and it happens to me too :/ I’m sure the demographics are a factor but the algorithm also just reeeeally loves polarizing reactionaries. High enragement-> high engagement
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u/hastingsnikcox May 27 '22
If i let tik tok thru to autoplay on you tube it very soon has jordan peterson on high rotation. That man.... frightening little bites of hate coming at me faster. Then something that starts to sound .... reasonable? Then im cheecking my thoughts to try to fit the comments into scheme of ideas, trying to see who this serves. I start looking at cute animals and trans and queer content and get steered there?
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u/DK_Adwar May 26 '22
What does it mean that i have a lot of virtual slot machine esk ads?
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u/lqdizzle May 26 '22
Gambling…hmmm….Are you young first generation Asian or an elderly white?
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u/CaptainDeutsch May 26 '22
Steven crowder, ben shapiro and Milo Yanni whatever are others :D
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u/nighthawk_something May 26 '22
Are you about 20 years old and a white man?
Because yeah, that's their audience and the algorithm knows it.
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u/snowwwwhite23 May 26 '22
I'm a 30yo white lady and they target me too. It's honestly infuriating because I always try to tell the misc algorithms I REALLY don't want to see these morons, but it's unrelenting.
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u/Wubbalubbadubbitydo May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
31 year old white lady and the algorithm keeps also trying to feed me conservative womens commentary.
Like no I don’t want to hear people complain and their “gotcha” retorts after reacting to a baity tik tok.
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u/taco-wed-sat May 26 '22
the algorithm has decided that 30 something year old white lady is a "karen" and either needs re education or to indulge.
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u/The-UrbanSombrero May 26 '22
YouTube wouldn’t stop pushing Ben shapiro’s creepy mormonish sister with the same face on me for a long time. I even blocked her to get it to stop and she was just always there. Gross gross gross.
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u/Against45 May 26 '22
Rogan and Peterson are morons? I'm curious what makes them so, considering one is incredibly successful and the other is literally a certified and proven intellectual.
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u/taco-wed-sat May 26 '22
just because you are successful doesn't mean you cant be a moron. And being a "certified intellectual" often comes with being an asshat who talks out of their ass, thinks they know everything and has at least a few very fucked up points of view.
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u/Washr314kk May 26 '22
Rogan believed the moon landing was faked, and Peterson thinks you should lie to children about climate change. Rogan takes ivermectin as a COVID therapeutic, but won't get vaccinated, and Peterson quit Twitter because he got called out for shaming a swimsuit model. Rogan is successful because he had a show where he paid people to eat bugs, and Peterson is a self proclaimed self help guru who destroyed his mind with drugs and cries on the internet about "wokeness". And on and on. Both are famous. Fame does not equal intelligence... I’m sure you would be able to list off some dumb famous people.
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u/Against45 May 26 '22
My point was you don't become as successful as Rogan without being intelligent, and humble people don't try to come off as intellectual. Peterson definitely has many flaws but that doesn't invalidate his education or perspective on things. We've all got flaws, atleast he wears his on his sleeve. Many people were following both for long periods of time before they found major fame. They don't need to be our mentors and they certainly don't need to be perfect. People are too quick to dehumanize other people they disagree with or dislike.
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u/Right_Two_5737 May 26 '22
I'm a man, and I keep getting makeup ads. Sometimes the algorithm is just broken.
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u/Time_Acanthaceae_431 May 26 '22
Stop watching stepsis porn?
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u/hippiekait May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
I miss read this as "sepsis porn" and experienced a roller coaster of disgust then relief at my mistake and then disgust at the realization that it probably does exist somewhere.
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u/saninicus May 26 '22
That genre is so fucking stupid. Any step sibling shit is bad
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u/Awesome1296 May 26 '22
I think the reason why it is used so much is that it creates a convenient plot for the two protagonists to engage in intercourse. The reason why it seems to be viewed so much is that all the most popular “actors” seem to appear in that category frequently
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u/Far_Leopard_4936 May 26 '22
I have the opposite problem. I keep getting The Young Turks and AOC on my feed. I hate politics on facebook. Don't want to see any of it right or left.
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u/LordSaumya May 26 '22
I mean, it’s Facebook. You don’t go to an active battlefield and expect not to get shot at.
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u/sackia May 26 '22
I’m kind of an “anti-woke” liberal and the algorithms have no idea what to do with me. I get ALL the crazy. I think I’ve beat it on YouTube now, by only watching family guy clips and short science or space videos.
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u/hinoyminoy69 May 26 '22
I get that as well and I always click not interested or don’t show me this again.
On Twitter I use megablock and it did wonders. You would be surprised how many of those accounts get banned though. Like one day I have 1400 blocked profiles and the next it’s 1250 bc that many got suspended
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u/fillemoinkes May 26 '22
Sometimes it's demographic: white male in certain age range. Without regard for other interests
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u/MaybeTheDoctor May 26 '22
Ask your friends
The algorithms are not based on what you alone is doing, but is heavily influenced by what the people you interact with are doing - your social network, the people who works the same place as you, people near you home address, people who go to the same venues that you do - it is all data that is influencing what they think you may like.
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u/ECS420 May 26 '22
I'm also curious about this. I've clicked "not interested" hundreds of times and still getting spammed with their stupid shit
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u/RoosterImportant4283 May 26 '22
what about "Don't recommend channel", or for ads, "stop seeing this ad --> inappropriate/irrelevant/repetitive"?
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u/ECS420 May 26 '22
Didn't remember/feel like writing all the different options but that's all included in "not interested". Still getting flooded with that crap constantly
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u/Tewcool2000 May 26 '22
I'm all but convinced the "not interested" option is a placebo. It hides the video but does absolutely nothing else.
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u/Yonatan24workshop May 26 '22
Because the algorithm wants you to watch one since since this type of content drags many people into binge-watching sessions - which is very profitable.
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u/RadioMill May 26 '22
I had to “hide” Joe Rogan on my Spotify feed at least a dozen times. They finally got the picture and stopped trying to put him in my rotation.
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u/Commemequeen May 26 '22
Because a lot of algoritms recommend content that has high engagement. Those right wing videos get high engagement.
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u/BigFitMama May 26 '22
#1 They pay for it.
They narrow down your demographic in Google Ads or Facebook Ads (thus Youtube) in their SEO engine and point it RIGHT at people like you then dump massive amounts of cash to get the most hits possible. The more cash you spend the more these SEO engines target the "buyer" and the more they are posted online.
Mo Money, Mo Ads.
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u/heroic_emu May 26 '22
If I get one more video of Jordan Petersons beef only diet or of him arguing with some woman I'm seriously gonna uninstall YouTube 😂
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u/TheCowardMcCall May 26 '22
YouTube is pushing HARD for me to watch Weird Al videos lol... Ive nothing against him, he's good at what he does but I just don't understand where YouTube got the idea I want to see Weird Al 24/7.
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u/Equivalent_Ad8133 May 27 '22
Because Weird Al is awesome and so are you! The algorithm put 1 + 1 together and got 2!
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u/TheCowardMcCall May 27 '22
This doesn't add up... cause I'm a 0
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u/Equivalent_Ad8133 May 27 '22
Nope. Don't believe you. Took a peek at your profile and you are actually a hoot. You are definitely not a 0.
Cystisoma is nightmare fuel and the mouth harp guy is great!
Glad you're in remission. The world needs to keep it's awesome!
You have yourself a great day and keep being awesome.
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u/Gil-GaladWasBlond May 26 '22
I live in India and i still get suggested those things once or twice a week.
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u/Clownbaby43 May 26 '22
Same. It's like every crossover in right-wing-talk-show in my recommendation. Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro and Rogan, Rogan and Peterson. Peterson SLAMS woman. It's tired.
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u/theblackoctopus23 May 26 '22
Dude I had a youtube ad the other day that was a rap about election fraud. Like damn I just want to watch some video game gameplay.
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u/Negan1995 May 26 '22
I get Daily Wire ads all the time. I've blocked them on plenty of websites and always report them as spam
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u/dsBlocks_original May 27 '22
These algorithms try to give you what keeps you watching the most, and attempting to hook someone on reactionary politics is a good strategy for that.
P.S.: Joe Rogan is right wing.
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u/fourdoorshack May 26 '22
I was wondering the same thing. It's like Jordan Peterson is everywhere on my feeds across social media platforms making the same silly arguments.
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u/blueyedguy123 May 26 '22
For the same reason that I, a Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan fan, continually get shown leftist content: the algorithms want to make me mad. Angry people engage more. More engagement means more time on the site, means more money for the company.
Turn your feed to "most recent" and watch most of that undesirable content disappear.
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u/sackia May 26 '22
I’ve noticed liberal videos have conservative ads and conservative videos have liberal ads. They are fucking with us.
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u/Iamthebd May 27 '22
I believe that there is a fair amount of Peterson's content that gets edited down and re-uploaded by provocateurs. The equivalent of karma farming I guess. I can say I have seen many of those videos in my feed and I don't watch those specifically for that reason. They grab the attention of those who want to see a bitter exchange. I feel they don't accurately depict the man. Peterson is a clinician and educator, so from the videos I have seen, chooses his words very carefully and is very observant. I feel those video thumbnails, titles, and editing all paint him in a provocative, polarizing and bitter light. His personally uploaded videos, of which there are many, I find much more appropriate to identify his character. There are plenty of his discussions I have not found very helpful but many I have found valuable guidance in as well.
Hell look here... I am engaging because I want to understand the Jordan Peterson hate. I look at the man, then look back at the comment sections, then back at the man, then break the fourth wall and ask... Really??
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u/Rhyging-007 May 26 '22
Because those parasites pay to promote their toxic garbage.
The "algorithm" is just trying to use up the ad spend.
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u/Assault0351x May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22
In what world is joe Rogan “right wing”? 😂 he’s for student debt forgiveness, universal healthcare and universal income.
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u/BasedAlliance935 May 26 '22
That political spectrumists is what we compass connesiurs refer to as libertarian-center
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u/justscrollingbi May 26 '22
Joe rogan is not right wing.
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u/BaconPancakeBaker May 26 '22
Isn't he? I don't really watch any podcast type content but from what little clips I have seen on Reddit and stuff he seems to be if not right wing then strongly right leaning,
But who knows, maybe the rest of his content is more center/left, I certainly don't care enough to actually watch his show to find out
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u/melodyze May 26 '22
He supports universal healthcare and endorsed Bernie Sanders. He has right wing guests on, and he just never really holds any of his guests to the fire.
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u/Pascalica May 26 '22
The biggest issue with him is that he gives the hard right a huge platform. They then use it to push their caustic ideology on everyone, and because Rogan isn't informed enough, he doesn't call them on their bullshit. He also sometimes actively entertains their conspiracies. He even pushed bizarre conspiracy himself at times, likely picked up from the nut jobs he's bringing on his show.
Even if he isn't a conservative himself, he's doing a lot of damage with his platform.
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u/MaximilianWL May 26 '22
It's important to give everyone a platform... I respect him as he doesn't censor anyone, he let's all opinions speak, and rightly so. It's important to hear all sides of the story!
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u/Pascalica May 26 '22
It's not. That's a load of crap. We do not need to give white nationalists, christofascist, racists, or dangerous conspiracy theorists a platform. Saying that we have to is BS, and doing so only lends legitimacy to the lies they are peddling. It's dangerous, especially when the host is utterly inept at challenging the guests over their lies.
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u/wism95 May 26 '22
Who decides where the line is of who does and doesn't get a platform?
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u/Pascalica May 26 '22
Is it hate speech? Is it misinformation? Is it unsubstantiated claims stated as facts? Probably shouldn't be given a huge platform and touted as facts. That happening is why we're where we are in the US today. It's a fucking mess here because people are out there spreading anti-science conspiracy as fact, as white nationalist lies as fact, and people are being murdered as a result.
Do I personally know where that line is? No. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there far smarter than I am that can come up with sensible limitations on things. So yeah, in an effort to stop the actual propaganda that's causing such harm to us right now? Yeah we need limits.
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u/Against45 May 26 '22
Supports Sanders, smokes pot with Musk, voted democrat his whole life, it's crazy. The people who label him as conservative are people who don't watch his podcasts.
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u/Trick-Requirement370 May 26 '22
That was before he moved to TX. He changed, I used to like him, can't fucking stand him anymore
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u/Pilfercate May 26 '22
We live in a world where giving someone a voice is treated as cosigning their message. It's usually a position of those who forcibly suppress opposing opinions while ironically screaming about them being fascists.
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u/boiled_elephant May 26 '22
It's more that he enjoys getting baked and interviewing 'spicy' figures, and right now all the spicy figures are politically right or alt-right or that vague libertarian hipster space somewhere between alt-right and centrist. The left is profoundly un-sexy and boring, so if your job is farming clicks on a youtube channel and you have a personal need to feel outside of mainstream and on the cutting edge of developing thought, you end up hoovering up these kinds of guests.
The man himself, though? Who knows what his political opinions are. I don't think he's stood still long enough, intellectually, to form any. He seems to float about asking questions a lot but not ruminating on the answers for very long.
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u/Hoshef May 26 '22
I don’t know exactly what his positions are, but he was a big Bernie supporter and tends to be pretty libertarian on most issues
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u/Trick-Requirement370 May 26 '22
He's gone super far right since before covid. I used to enjoy listening to Rogan, I can't stand listening to his Alex Jones like right wing ass since he moved to Texas.
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u/FranchiseCA May 26 '22
He's pro-ignorance and radicalism, and has a history of platforming right-wing nutjobs, so it's an easy mistake to make.
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u/Orangebeardo May 26 '22
Well, at least one of those things is true, and I don't even like or watch him...
Saying he's pro ignorance is just a veiled insult, saying he's "radicalism" is just based on nothing. But yeah, he does sometimes talk with right-wing nutjobs. And left-wing nutjobs. And general nutjobs. And he's also a bit of a nutjob, but aren't we all?
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u/FranchiseCA May 26 '22
I don't mean it to be veiled.
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u/spudz76 May 26 '22
What exactly is ignorant about asking questions? Isn't that the literal opposite of ignorant?
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u/FranchiseCA May 26 '22
He has people on that intend to mislead.
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u/spudz76 May 26 '22
He questions everything. That is very different than misleading, it's just checking the other paths that the mainstream hasn't "approved" which is a good thing. Unless of course you actually trust the mainstream opinion on everything, in which case you're stupid.
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u/LL112 May 26 '22
Didn't say he was, but trust one of his fans to lack comprehension skills
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u/Equivalent_Ad8133 May 26 '22
If you always jump straight to the insults for a simple statement, maybe the algorithm thinks you should be getting that stuff.
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u/LL112 May 26 '22
That isn't an insult, its an observation
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u/Equivalent_Ad8133 May 26 '22
That person saying Rogan isn't right wing wasn't making a bad statement. In your original question you lumped Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and right wing commentaries together in your sentance. It reads as if you are calling Rogan and Peterson right wing commentators. That person was just correcting what he saw as an error. You lumping them together is you being clear as mud. Don't blame that person's comprehensive skills when it could easily be your lack of clarification skills. Many will look at it and see you might be listting them separately because they are different, but most will see it as saying they are all the same.
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u/Potatocake_Mangler May 26 '22
Its literally in your title man. I know lying is what Rogan haters do, but maybe you should get better at it.
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u/justscrollingbi May 26 '22
He said he was a Democrat, he's more of a centralist. Have you seen his podcast?
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u/LL112 May 26 '22
Whats your point? I didn't mention his political leaning
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u/WarthogsFly7688 May 26 '22
The point is, your shitty agenda is showing now and your bad faith question is shit.
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u/LilTableChair May 26 '22
Joe Rogan pushed that ivermectim conspiracy and even took it himself. He's definitely a right winger
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u/justscrollingbi May 26 '22
So if you agree with a few things from a different view than most, you should be categorized as part of a group. I guess people aren't allowed to think for themselves.
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u/spudz76 May 26 '22
He doesn't push anything. He talks about things.
A motherfucking doctor prescribed him things, and he took them all. And then said nothing other than "idk, worked for me?"
And ivermectin isn't a conspiracy it's just not all that provably effective, however it also has no negative side effects so it's more of a "why not?"
The conspiracy is how well-programmed you've let yourself become.
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u/LilTableChair May 26 '22
The idea that ivermectin is an alternative treatment for covid as opposed to the vaccine and that the government is trying to hide that information is what makes it a conspiracy theory by definition.
Rogan constantly trying to give credence to that theory by talking about it and then announcing that he took it himself is him pushing that idiotic narrative
His doctor gave him ivermectin because he asked for it. A lot of doctors made money by writing people prescriptions for ivermectin to treat covid even though they knew it was ridiculous because it's easy money
Ivermectin is a de-wormer. It has absolutely zero impact on treating any virus much less COVID because that's not how medicine works. If you had cancer you wouldn't just keep taking Tylenol hoping it will treat the cancer unless you're an idiot.
And it does hurt because people are taking ivermectin instead of getting vaccinated and they are still catching covid and dying. Even if that weren't true, why would you take a de-wormer to treat a viral infection instead of taking the vaccine made for that virus?
You are sitting here trying to defend a ring-wing, idiotic, anti-vax conspiracy that has absolutely NO EVIDENCE to back it up yet I'm the one that's programmed?
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u/UnderstandingDull570 May 26 '22
He is an unabashed capitalist. He is anti-trans. He uses racist language, gratuitously. He argues for individual rights over civil rights, except when it's his group that is offended which is mostly those that are white, male, anti-LGBQT and hopped up on the bro juice. Maybe he had Bernie on, and maybe he catered to him like he does with all of his guests, but most of his guests are not left of center, politically, and he espouses most of what progressive-minded people oppose.
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u/justscrollingbi May 26 '22
He has people from all sides on just to talk. He had Sadhguru, Russell Brand, and various other people. His podcast is just about giving people information about all walks of life.
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u/Moist-Cantaloupe-740 May 26 '22
Why do people keep trying to say Joe Rogan is right wing? Stop parroting CNN crap. They are as bad as fox I swear.
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u/Primary_Assumption51 May 26 '22
I was just about to say this. Rogan openly self identifies as a liberal. Also, Peterson is a political scientist, clinical psychologist, and an academic. all positions liberals usually hold in high regard when it comes their views. He would be a credible source of information for those who are genuinely interested in listening to different ideas.
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u/Hakzem May 26 '22
Except, you know, that Peterson is full of shit.
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u/Primary_Assumption51 May 26 '22
Having data to support your positions on things is the opposite of being full of shit. Every time I’ve seen him make an argument he provided data for why he feels his position is correct.
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u/FumblesMcFlute May 26 '22
My guy, haven't you seen him on Twitter recently?
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u/Primary_Assumption51 May 26 '22
Did he admit to not using data in his decisions lately or did he just say something you didn’t like?
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u/Leucippus1 May 26 '22
They pay to have them elevated into people's feeds based on demographic data. So if you are a middle aged white guy without a college degree watch out.
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u/JPK12794 May 26 '22
I don't know who Jordan Peterson is but I always hear about Joe Rogan, so I thought fine I'll give him a chance... My expectations were low but wow that guy is an idiot.
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u/KungThulhu May 26 '22
let me guess: young english speaking white male in your early 20s? Thats their target audience especially for peterson thats the age where people still think hes not just pulling sh*t out of his ass.
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u/ninth_ant May 26 '22
The right wing is well funded and organized and has figured out how to manipulate the algorithms in poplar sites in their favour.
Just like spammers and scammers figure out how to worm themselves into search results. If there’s money in it - and there is - they will find a way.
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u/Actual_Primary_7616 May 26 '22
First off, Joe Rogan isn't right wing at all, he's definitely extremely liberal, and second of all, he gets a massive number of hits so his shit is always showing up on your feed.
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u/ECS420 May 26 '22
It's one thing to say he isn't right wing but saying that he's "extremely liberal" is complete nonsense
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u/Actual_Primary_7616 May 26 '22
In my mind he's pretty far left with a lot of his takes, but I'm a liberal, and I don't use it as an insult. He's level-headed and open minded and I enjoy listening to him
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u/thegooddoktorjones May 26 '22
They focus on educated nerdy males as good targets for their line of bullhsit. Don't know if that is you, but it is fertile land to find angry dudes with disposable income and a propensity towards poorly thought out libertarianism.
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u/WINNER1212 May 26 '22
Joe rogan is absolutely right wing (or at least work for a right wing agenda)
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u/smuthbesides May 26 '22
Once YouTube recommend a Jordan Peterson video, i didn't click but the autoplay/preview played for just two seconds. For weeks YouTube recommend this piece of shit for me non stop
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u/tnutnutnu May 26 '22
Maybe the algorithm is giving you opportunities to listen to people outside of your echo chamber?
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u/Dr_Chemiramen May 26 '22
You tell me. Everyone is getting funny dances and hot girls on their TikTok fy page and I'm getting Ronald Reagan speeches when I'm not even American.