r/facepalm • u/Scratchdatarch • 16d ago
Ah yes, the classic “Do your own research” 🇲🇮🇸🇨
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u/Bflontv 16d ago
"look it up" easiest way to show people you are full of sh*t
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u/Feeling_Advice_2309 16d ago
Seems to be their go-to line these days ~ they fail to provide a credible source and expect you to search for it yourself.
And of course once you do and challenge their so-called research, they lose their shit and attack you and/or your source of information because [insert paranoid conspiracy bullshit here].
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u/Bflontv 16d ago
That's when they launch into personal attacks cause their tiny brains can't handle being wrong...Mama said they were always right haha
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u/Feeling_Advice_2309 16d ago
Yeah, I've been on the other end of said attacks. Been called a 'sheep', naive and blind for apparently believing something they didn't.
The whole thing is just baffling, to say the least.
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u/mirrorspirit 16d ago
Sheep is such an unoriginal insult.
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u/Benjamin_Stark 16d ago
My reddit newsfeed recently has just been a display of how many horrible people there are.
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u/yosr481 16d ago
Go scroll on r/CasualConversation
Come back happier
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u/Argentnerd 16d ago
This was the most wholesome thing I’ve seen all day i believe I owe you an upvote
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u/ChintanP04 16d ago
Hey, I saw you over in r/marvelstudios
Your avatar is cool. That's what I remembered about you.
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u/Benjamin_Stark 13d ago
Thanks! Someone designed Marvel avatars and posted them on that subreddit, and a couple months ago someone gave me a gold award, giving me access to all the custom avatar design features, so I used her design to make Thanos.
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u/dhkendall 16d ago
Hold on, why is Trump so great if he did more for people who harm the economy than any other president?
Can’t have it both ways.
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u/tojro 16d ago edited 16d ago
You see because he had record Wall Street numbers (an obvious bastion of all black everything and #1 best metric for black justice), cut taxes for richest 0.1% (all black essentially, give or take), denounced BLM protests (pic with bible way more important to black prosperity), etc, etc , etc, (need I go on) - he’s clearly MLK 2.0 times a million. Oh and he let a black lady out of jail because boobs girl asked him so sweetly if he would pretty please?
Edit: most importantly blacks will undoubtedly forever rejoice on January 6 because that was clearly a big step for racial justice. /s
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u/Fakeduhakkount 16d ago
https://interestingengineering.com/31-highly-influential-african-american-scientists
Yes, these people would have been better off picking cotton! I swear if there was no civil war, there would be two America’s. The Confederate States today would be like 1860’s in 2021. They would probably be like Hitler and not trust Black scientific discoveries and advances like what happened to Jewish people.
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u/Funbucket_537 16d ago
Would of joined Hitler during ww2
Edit: the Confederates
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u/MachWeld 16d ago
Would HAVE. Would HAVE
Fuck's sake.
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u/WaddlingDuckILY 16d ago
FOR* Fucks sake. FOR!
Feels Own Ridicule
😂
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u/Nasgren 16d ago
I’ve heard a lot of non-USA residents say “Fuck’s sake”, leaving off the For, so I think what he said is valid. Sorry to ruin your day.
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u/1234normalitynomore 16d ago
I'm from America and I've heard just "fuck's sake" before plenty of times
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u/WaddlingDuckILY 16d ago
Nah it’s cool bro, it’s the swarn responsibility of you, a Reddit user, to do you part in ruining my day. I and Reddit both appreciate your dedication to the job. Good on ya friend
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u/Sokandueler95 16d ago edited 16d ago
Woodrow Wilson nixed almost every influential non-white contributor from American history books. It’s taken decades of not the entire past century to repair the damage.
Edit: fact check, he did this while at Princeton, not as president. He refused black enrollment and wiped the enrollment records of black alumni. This set Princeton back, not the nation.
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u/Itisi-no-really 16d ago
I don't think POTUS has that kind of power. It's usually the local school boards that decide curriculum. Do you have a source for this? I'm interested.
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u/Sokandueler95 16d ago edited 16d ago
Looked it up, I misremembered. He did it during his tenure at Princeton, refused black students and removed any curriculums that mentioned black contributors.
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u/Aeescobar 16d ago
How can you praise someone for helping minorities while also saying those same minorities are bad?
WTH is wrong with their head that's preventing them from noticing how paradoxical their statements are!?
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u/Werefour 16d ago
Ehhh..... I just can't with this bull anymore.
One can't fix willful ignorance, hate and greed, and so many are afflicted with it these days. It is bad in America, yes but there are a scary amount of individuals in other countries as well.
It is truly just disturbing how inflexible and confident in their nonsense beliefs this sect of humanity is.
Also the trolls and internet bull sh*term that pump it out are another aspect of what is wrong with the world these days.
It's going to have to be addressed somehow because it is only going to become a more dangerous issue, yet its a problem no one wants to tackle head on and education only works if the system isn't broken and people actually want to learn.
People make dumb mistakes, yet this is just beyond.
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u/StarWarsDemic 16d ago
The "I'm not racist but i do call black people the n word" kid. I know one of them
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u/FalseHeartbeat 16d ago
trump?? you mean the guy that literally tried to take away the human rights of me and every other trans person in America??
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u/AnimeChan39 16d ago
Adam Smith, a prominent early economist stated a belief that slavery was worse for the economy, as any extra production more than what was necessary for them could only be achieved by violence, and not by self interest.
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u/BubbhaJebus 16d ago
And there it is. Racism. The motivation that hides behind most conspiracy theory.
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u/YeeterOfNormies 16d ago
Imagine hating on THE LITTERAL FOUNDER OF THE POLITICAL PARTY YOU SUPPORT. Like the modern republican party probably wouldn't exist without him and if it did it would be wayyyy different.
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u/spongebob_nopants 16d ago
No it would still be full of the same racists that it is now
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u/YeeterOfNormies 16d ago
Elaborate?
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u/JemmaTbaum 16d ago
The Republican and Democratic parties switched around 100 years ago. All the liberal Republicans migrated to the Democratic Party and all the conservative Democrats moved to the Republican Party. So while the Republican Party of today is the party of Lincoln, it is so in name only. The political ideology and platform that Lincoln supported moved 100 years ago with the politicians.
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u/spongebob_nopants 16d ago
Lincoln was the last member of the republican party who wasn't a racist
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u/YeeterOfNormies 16d ago
But in the scenario I am referring too Lincoln would never lead the party. They would need diffrent leadership so they may never even go down the route they are currently on. Most people who are now part of the party may of never even joined(and people formerly part of the party.). In the scenario Lincoln never joined it could be possible that the statement you said is never true or never even came into existence
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u/spongebob_nopants 16d ago
Lincoln would be a democrat if he was alive. If he hadn't had been assassinated blacks would have gotten equal rights a hell of a lot sooner
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u/theSHlT 16d ago
You are very correct about that. Troops never should have been recalled and reconstruction should have been at gunpoint if need be. They were beaten and in position to resist. This is an oversimplification but if we had the courage to do it right the first time Florida could be another California.
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u/spongebob_nopants 16d ago
What people don't realize is the civil war didn't start out about slavery, it wasn't until a few years into the war it became about slavery. Lincoln had no choice
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u/Prokion_Szopracz 16d ago
Which is why the first Confederate state to secede has cited slavery as a casus belli? From The Atlantic:
… A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that “Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free,” and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction. This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety.
South Carolina, Missisipi, Louisiana, Alabama and Texas have done the same, with the same article having also numerous quotes from Confederate leaders (including its president, Jefferson Davis) which clearly state it was all about slavery.
The Civil War was about slavery, full stop. The Confederates have made that painfully clear every step of the way, in their threats years before the war, in their declaration of secession, during the war and after it. We have literal quotes of them unambigously saying so.
The narrative that the Civil War wasn't about slavery is just historical revisionism.
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u/spongebob_nopants 16d ago
Lincoln didn't announce his emancipation proclamation until years into the war. Try learning real history.
England and France were seeing their gotten shipments disrupted by the war and see eyeing getting involved and supporting the south. once Lincoln made it about slavery they couldn't without looking like they supported slavery when the had already abolished slavery.
We damn near lost that war. If it wasn't for Lincoln making it about slavery and some dumb luck, like finding a battle plan once in a cigar box, we would have
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u/AUnusedUsername 16d ago
Thats... really not true. Lincoln was just as racist as anyone else of that era. His idea was for all of the blacks to return to Africa after being freed and leave the US as a white ethno-state. He never got it to work out, but did pursue it after the war.
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u/spongebob_nopants 16d ago
Actually Lincoln wasn't against slavery really but he felt it was wrong. He had the choice to make the war about slavery or lose
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u/god-of-hacks 16d ago
Lincoln was unfortunately racist as well
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u/spongebob_nopants 16d ago
But was willing to change. Of course it was because he needed to or they would have lost the war but he did
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u/SmiffyWalldorf 16d ago
Ok, I'm going to make a point in the form of a joke, just so there's no confusion. Let's just pretend that all stereotypes about black people are true, they still wouldn't be harmful to the economy because they'd be putting black market drug money back into circulation from all the jewelry, menthol cigarettes, fried chicken, malt liquor, and grape soda they buy. Hell, they'd actually help the environment from all the watermelon and sunflower seeds they spit all over the place. Agriculture would flourish.
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u/roararoarus 16d ago
WTF
The Confederates never died out.
Edit: so I finally understand what Trump and his racist followers mean by "Trump > Lincoln". Behind the scenes, they talk about these "facts". What a bunch of dumbfucks.
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u/Dirty__Hairy 16d ago
“Slavery was good for the economy.”
Well… yeah I guess. Hard to argue that.
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u/PheaglesFan 16d ago
Oof! Sometimes I wish people didn't have to redact the names of these morons. They'd all be fired the next day.
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u/idontcarolinee 16d ago
FUCK his comments are so annoying when you have the historical knowledge to know that sadly the US’s economy wouldn’t be half of what it is today without African American slaves. Educating people is so crucial lmao
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u/DukeLeon 16d ago
Lets skip all the racism and lies and approach his claim directly. According to him, Trump did more to minorities than any other President; inculding Lincoln. When he was told Lincoln freed the slaves, he countered with ending slavery was not good for the economy. That in itself destroys his own claim since he said Trump helped minorities and not the economy. So his claim itself contradicts itself and shows that he is an idiot that can't even make a simple claim without it being full of holes from the getco.
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u/Itisi-no-really 16d ago
The economy is not slavery. One can help minorities by doing things that are bad for the economy. The two are interrelated but independent.
I do not support his assertions, either one, but you are making a claim that has no basis in logic.
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u/DukeLeon 16d ago
Read my post again carefully.
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u/Itisi-no-really 16d ago
Read your post again. I stand by my post. Your logic is tortured.
Claims about the economy doesn't destroy any claim about what good Trump or Lincoln did for minorities.
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u/DukeLeon 16d ago
Read your post again. I stand by my post. Your logic is tortured.
Meh, looking at your post history it looks like you are either a troll or like to farm downvotes. So no point in explaining myself any further to you. A simple reading of OP's image and my reply would have clicked almost immediately. The first idiot in OP's image made a claim, when that claim was challenged he tried to move the goal post but mucked it up terribly showing that he is an idiot which I pointed out.
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u/Itisi-no-really 16d ago
First off, paragraphs are a thing.
Meh, looking at your post history it looks like you are either a troll or like to farm downvotes. So no point in explaining myself any further to you.
Nice ad hominem argument here. It in no way advances your assertion that the guy invalidated his own argument.
A simple reading of OP's image and my reply would have clicked almost immediately. The first idiot in OP's image made a claim, when that claim was challenged he tried to move the goal post but mucked it up terribly showing that he is an idiot which I pointed out.
He did not move the goal posts, he replied with a non sequitur. You took the bait hook, line and sinker. When I pointed out you were going off on a tangent I apparently offended you.
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u/DukeLeon 16d ago
Nice ad hominem argument here.
Not an ad hominem. There is no point in trying to hold a conversation with someone that doesn't want one. Your recent post history shows lots of downvotes, that doesn't mean much by itself, but since you started an argument with me without properly reading my first post, I assume that you don't want an actual honest conversation and rather wish to troll. As the old internet saying goes "don't feed trolls".
It in no way advances your assertion that the guy invalidated his own argument.
It was not meant to. My first post made that painfully clear to anyone actually read it.
When I pointed out you were going off on a tangent I apparently offended you.
I did not go on a tangent.
You did not offend me. At most, I got a small sense of irony reading your post on a sub called "facepalm".
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u/Itisi-no-really 16d ago
Your approach to debate appears to be:
Someone makes an assertion you disagree with.
You contradict him with an argument that doesn't necessarily show flaws in his logic.
Someone else points out this lack to you.
You call names (troll) and question motivation (say he's farming negative karma) while denying it's an ad hom argument.
I suggest you take some classes in logic or critical thinking. Make yourself worth talking to.
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u/NirvanaPenguin 16d ago
Sigh... imagine a planet full of these asshole beings, always doubting each other and conspiring... first week/day they would kill each other for a piece of food as they would judge each other as evil on sight and that's it.
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u/reyrey07 16d ago
How do we eradicate the nation of these people? Serious question.
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u/Itisi-no-really 16d ago
Doy you really want the entire nation to be an echo chamber for your beliefs? Who gets to decide what opinion everyone must have? If we're going to eradicate people based on what they believe, will we have thought cops? Will it be something out of Orwell's 1984 with people trying to invent a language where ideas not supported and sponsored by the gov't can not be phrased?
I disagree with a lot of people, but I would never suppress them. I wouldn' like to be suppressed either. Would you?
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u/EagonAkatsuki 16d ago
A guy openly says ending slavery wasnt good a d your initial reaction is to say his opinion deserves to be heard? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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u/Itisi-no-really 16d ago
I say he should not be eradicated for his beliefs. I say that the 1st Amendment was meant to protect unpopular speech because popular ideas need no protection.
Having said that, I also say I disagree with his views on this subject and nobody has to listen to what he has to say.
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u/EagonAkatsuki 15d ago
This is why professional eristic contrarians do so well in America. There's no repercussions for spewing hatred and dissent
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u/Itisi-no-really 15d ago
Social sanctions are a consequence.
Eradication as proposed in the post I was replying to seems an overreaction.
At one time people who were pro civil rights were seen as 'eristic contrarians'. The world changes.
Thanks for the new word by the way.
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u/Sokandueler95 16d ago
I had some friends who were adamant that Trump was the best president since Washington. What about Jefferson, Lincoln, Roosevelt 1 and 2, Kennedy, Reagan, etc.
I voted for Trump both times, and I stand by my decisions, but I’m under no illusions that he was the G.O.A.T as a lot of people claim.
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u/xHeyItzRosiex 16d ago
Free “them” from slavery. I guess the only minority is black people apparently lol
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u/leiggibtohsil 16d ago
I wouldnt go as far as to say enslave anyone ... however statistically the minority of the US popular is responsible for the majority of violent crimes... including same race on race violent crimes.... those are facts
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u/4timesthesteak 16d ago
“Look it up”
📖 hey wouldya look at that, blacks ruined the economy, it’s right here in this book
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u/Endurable_Cheetah 16d ago
The Black Power Movement, was so successful, they had to Kill Malcolm. Literally! Cointelpro. Look it up!
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u/throwaway941285 16d ago
Black people are the reason Bernie got curb stomped. This guy can eat shit and grow up childless.
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u/No-Administration514 16d ago
Even If it is true (I know it isn't) Is economy more important than people's freedom?
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u/ThanksDarksouls3 16d ago
Yeah he definitely has done more if you could say locking non whites in cages and tearing apart their families as doing good for minors
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u/scoped_ar007 16d ago
"Look it up......an uh, tell me when you get something, because I can't find anything"
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u/TheoryKing04 16d ago
It’s… even more ironic, considering how, aside from the unquestionable immorality and inhumanity of it all, slavery is actually terrible for any economy that employs it
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u/TheEngineer19203 16d ago
People can only wish they had this much confidence in life as this pea-brain has while spewing bullshit.
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u/Silverlord2021 16d ago
If you really look at what Lincoln proposed and did for black people. It wasn’t much. And the freedom from slavery thing was just a byproduct of his hatred for anti-unionists.
Lincoln loved the union. Technically speaking, the confederate were legally in the right to declare their own independence. Literally what the United States was founded on. They felt like they were getting unequal representation. They were also the economic powerhouse of the union, with cotton prices at huge highs (this was prior to the British basically enslaving the Indians for cheap cotton and indigo) The north was taking those taxes, but investing heavily in the north which was getting an influx of migrants from Ireland and Britain, as well as Poland. Anyone looking for a new start.
The south could see itself slowly being out voted. Those cotton fields relied on slavery. The north was increasingly become anti slavery. And the cultural differences between north and south were growing. The south had a big French influence. Most of it was first colonised by the French. Why you get towns like Lafayette, New Orleans, Louiseville.
These people don’t want to eventually be federally out voted by anti slavery states. So they wanted out.
But Lincoln loved the union. Under no circumstances would he let them leave. He also thought less of black people, which is in his writings, and even promised the south, he’d let them keep slaves so long as they wouldn’t leave. Even if you think Lincoln cared about slavery, that action alone evidences he cares more about federal unity than slaves rights.
South didn’t want it. Tensions were already high. And they didn’t trust that the promise could be kept long term. They left.
Big civil war.
Now in the midst, Lincoln put together an edict. All the slaves in the rebelling states were now free. This was done to weaken the south’s economy. To promote more runaways.
But interestingly there were “northern” states fighting the south, who still had slaves. Those slaves were not freed under this edict.
If you applaud Lincoln for freeing the slaves. It’s really like that photo form the office with Steve Carell getting the handshake.
He didn’t do it for the slaves at all. Their freedom was a byproduct of economic warfare.
Hell. He didn’t even want the slaves to stay in the Us. He wanted them all to be deported to the area that is now Liberia.
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u/Calledcarpet9 16d ago
The fuck you mean look it up. Treating people like people makes less money? I truly can't believe this is how some people think
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u/Key_Push_2487 🇩🇦🇼🇳 🇦🇲🇧🇪🇷 15d ago
Gee....with fanatics like this, I wonder why so many people dislike Trump? (sarcasm)
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u/umbravivum 15d ago
As a minority, the Trump presidency is the only time I carried my concealed weapon everywhere I went and carried 3 extra magazines. Just saying.
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u/IHaveNeverSeenTheSun 14d ago
For Christmas I would like a machete and a room full of all the people in the world who say, "do your own research".
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u/Moist_Drive_5535 16d ago
It’s true but you can’t say that shit
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u/EagonAkatsuki 16d ago
What part of this is true? Should we slap your comment on a post on this sub? Cringe as fuck
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u/Idol4Life 16d ago
Trump did do well. Glad to see him getting some love
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u/redbeardoweirdo 16d ago
You do realize you're siding with a person that unironically said that ending slavery was bad. The only thing trump ever did well was make bigots feel safe to be open about their bigotry
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u/0rcscorpion 16d ago
Well I like Trump but damn that's fucked up. Ending slavery being a bad thing? Okay sure...
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u/PodporuchikKJ 16d ago
Yeah, look it up! In the Encyclopedia Klantanica.