r/facepalm Dec 03 '21 Silver 20 Helpful 16 Wholesome 13 All-Seeing Upvote 2 Mind Blown 1

Police officer “detains” guy after getting in his face 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/FeedbackGood2204 Dec 03 '21 Silver

"That's harassment"

"YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET"

Apparently I haven't seen Harassment but is sure as hell see a malicious asshole power tripping

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u/Picardknows Dec 04 '21

We don’t really know the law so. He’s being detained until we can look in our handbook and see if we can charge him on anything.

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u/lumiX99 Dec 03 '21

"You are being detained until we figure out a reason we detained you for" Bruuuh that is the dumbest shit i have ever heard, what a fuckin joke these cops are

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u/hellakevin Dec 04 '21

"A crime has occurred"

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u/ANarrowUrethra Dec 04 '21

"Which crime specifically officer?"

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u/Suspicious-mole-hair Dec 04 '21

We'll figure it out.

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u/Nearby_Employee_2943 Dec 04 '21

“We’ll tell you once we’ve all aligned our made up stories.”

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u/P-W-L Dec 04 '21

isn't the definition of "crime" like a severe offense ? Insulting an officer or "looking at him bad" isn't really my definition of the term...

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u/haiyanlink Dec 04 '21

The legal definition of "crime" solely depends on the laws in the area. One thing can be a crime in one place, but not in another.

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u/Tuckingfypowastaken Dec 04 '21

Interestingly though, nowhere in the us is insulting an officer a crime

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u/OtherAardvark Dec 04 '21

In fact, as long as you aren't threatening anyone, it's protected by the first amendment.

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u/bender_isgreat1969 Dec 04 '21

A government entity intimidating someone for their free speech is a crime, so yes in fact a crime did occur.

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u/bucket75 Dec 04 '21

Scrolling through to find this. “ what am I being arrested for “. “ don’t know but we will think of something later “.

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u/dafunkmunk Dec 04 '21

aka they’re about to start looking for a bullshit excuse they can warp to fit some random ass 209 year old law that no one enforces anymore for the sole purpose of justifying his arrest

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u/JimmyTango Dec 04 '21

That's a shit ton of work my friend. Easier to just plant drugs on the dude and book him.

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u/CrazyCalYa Dec 04 '21

"Disorderly conduct" is a great standby. Add "resisting arrest" for refusing to immediately comply with the officer's (unlawful) orders. Maybe some "assaulting an officer" because some spit flew out of the cRiMiNaL's mouth and hit the officer when he was asking why he was being arrested.

There we go, boys. 20 minutes of paperwork to lock this menace to society up for a year (or just tie him up with 6 months of court proceedings and thousands of dollars in lawyer's fees) with plenty of time left over to park in handicap spots while we grab some donuts.

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u/Blackout_Inevitable Dec 04 '21

Officer down: hurt feelings

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u/Catshit-Dogfart Dec 04 '21

Arbitrary arrest and seizure of property is literally one of the reasons the US was founded in the first place. The people who founded this country had enough with that shit so much that they moved to another continent and wrote a new constitution about it.

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u/HiItsLust Dec 03 '21

“You don’t have personal space” - If this cop truly believes this, then he’s more a part of the problem than he knows

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u/mandy_miss Dec 04 '21 edited Dec 04 '21

I fucking died when the cop said “don’t touch me!” And then the camera pans down and he’s literally staddling the guy lmaoo

Edit: replaced a word

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u/DevinH83 Dec 04 '21

While the guy has his arms crossed..

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u/radicon Dec 04 '21

That was a smart, and very intentional, move on his part. Kudos to him for being level headed enough to pull that off, and fuck that cop on a power trip.

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u/QuitArguingWithMe Dec 04 '21

It's crazy how many techniques some of us have to learn at an early age.

Self defense means completely different things in different scenarios.

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u/Ilikeporsches Dec 04 '21

This is learned behavior. He been around cops before. He probably learned this as a kid getting harassed by the cops.

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u/lilyraine-jackson Dec 04 '21

saved his own life with that move

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u/TedCruzsButtPlug Dec 04 '21 Giggle

cop was sittin on the dude like he thought he was a mall santa

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u/mandy_miss Dec 04 '21

If this were a satirical bit it would be really funny. Especially with the deliberate pan down to reveal the cop is actively straddling his thighs. Its just so ridiculous.

“touch me again and see what happens!” I’ll wager a guess. Is it that his dick would become erect enough to cover the one inch gap between them and he’ll finally achieve orgasm?

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u/SeptemViginti Dec 04 '21

The fascist version of "Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself!"

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u/Knight-Skywalker Dec 04 '21

And then daring the other guy to “touch him again” to purposely try to get the other guy to do something so he can ruin his life.

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u/underwear11 Dec 04 '21

Just want to point out that supreme court precedent says that police officers do not have to know all the laws, but civilians do to avoid breaking them............

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u/3rdtrichiliocosm Dec 04 '21 edited Dec 04 '21

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u/kazmark_gl Dec 04 '21

Oh yeah, they won't even be get as much as a finger waggle for that.

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u/whutchamacallit Dec 04 '21

Shot dog? Pffft. That's bush league. Cops in my neck of the woods will murder wheelchair bound Walmart patrons.

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u/Phantompooper03 Dec 04 '21

Tucson? I saw that video yesterday, Jesus…

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u/JakJako90 Dec 04 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

Damn, glad I'm not in the US. I mean, what the f... If a cop shot my dog for barking at him, I'd go straight at the guy, with whatever's in my hands.

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u/rebug Dec 04 '21

That's the idea. If they can provoke any sort of reaction then they've got a pretext for committing violence on you with impunity.

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u/PunishedAres Dec 03 '21 Helpful

Sorry but Aggravated Mad-Dogging is a crime in the first degree. Please turn around so we cannot have our feelings hurt.

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u/FeedbackGood2204 Dec 03 '21 Silver Helpful Wholesome

"You wanna know what happened to the last guy to call me a poopyhead? You'll get to know em well when you meet in hell."

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u/Benzorgz Dec 04 '21

Bahahaha I needed that laugh. Thank you.

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u/RuthlessIndecision Dec 04 '21

Mad dogging must have been something to do with humping his leg.

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u/EndotheGreat Dec 04 '21 Gold Helpful

The most severe crime you can commit in America is disrespecting the police.

Full stop.

If you disrespect them after you fail to signal for a turn, they might kill you.

If you're subservient to them they might take you to Burger King after you shoot up a church.

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u/WildlingViking Dec 04 '21

“Mad-dogging” what a crock of shit. The cop is more aggressive than the citizen. Can’t imagine what his political leanings are 🙄

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u/PanickyHermit Dec 04 '21

What is the over/under on how many Punisher poster that cop has in his house?

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u/Zimmers_00 Dec 03 '21 Silver Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote LOVE! Wearing is Caring

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u/Kravenmoehead Dec 03 '21 edited Dec 04 '21 Gold Wholesome

The police officers allowing it to happen should be canned too.

Edit: thanks for the gold! My first one ever!

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u/mepardo Dec 04 '21

Yeah, what about officer “a crime has happened”?

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u/skytomorrownow Dec 04 '21

"We've taken 50 rotten apples out of your barrel, I'm sure the rest are just fine, sir."

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u/thebenetar Dec 04 '21

A "good cop" is only as good as the worst behavior he turns a blind eye to.

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u/tabooblue32 Dec 04 '21

Out of your barrel of acmes finest 6month trained rotten apples.

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u/malerihi Dec 04 '21

"A crime was commited.... By my colleague so nvm lol"

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u/Jardite Dec 04 '21

exactly. this man was assaulted and kidnapped. those are FUCKING CRIMES. and the other cops were accessory to it

those pieces of shit should be in prison, not unemployment. all of them.

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u/threejollybargemen Dec 04 '21 Gold Wearing is Caring

Those two cops are the exact reason people hate cops. They stand by in silence, knowing full fucking well this guy is out of line, and keep their mouths shut to protect a fellow officer. All three of them should have lost their jobs.

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u/Kravenmoehead Dec 04 '21

Absolutely. But the system is broken and they will never do it. If they do they are looked at as crooked by the department.

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u/savageboredom Dec 04 '21

People love to throw around the phrase "a few bad apples" to defend cops like this, but forget that the second half of that saying is "spoil the whole bunch."

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u/murkar Dec 04 '21

Press X to doubt.

"No longer employed here" sounds like a very careful way of saying he's employed in a different precinct now

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u/decom83 Dec 03 '21 Take My Energy

“Five days after the incident, DHS Police Chief Dale Mondary says the officer is no longer employed with the department.“, - I wonder which department he moved to? Didn’t sound like they fired him.

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u/iwannagohome49 Dec 03 '21

He will be working for a neighboring department by the end of the week

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u/illsmosisyou Dec 04 '21 edited Dec 04 '21

It doesn’t actually read to me like he was fired (according to the one article). His former boss completely stood up for him.

He even maneuvered so he didn’t have to give the officer’s name by citing the officer’s rights. The Police Officer’s Bill of Rights is pretty nutty in California apparently..pdf) I’m guessing this is from September 2019 based on the file name.

It does not allow any disclosure of an ongoing investigation and allows an officer to be reassigned during the investigation. Yet the language his boss used sounded a lot like he’s already made up his mind. So investigation over right? Not if he wants to continue to hide details from the public I guess.

It also says that any statements made by a peace officer during a disciplinary interrogation cannot then be used in subsequent criminal investigation and that officers are to be compensated for their time while being investigated (edit: interrogated), possibly even time and a half if not during their regular working hours (depending on department compensation policies).

If my company investigated me, I’d bet they’d be easily compelled to turn over any findings to the police if asked.

Edit: so that link isn’t working with Apollo nicely. URL here: https://apps.sdsheriff.net/PublicDocs/SB978/Human%20Resource%20Services%20Bureau/Professional%20Staff%20Development/Professional%20Staff%20Training/Department%20Supervisor/POBR%20-%20In%20Sheriff%20(201909%20MPB).pdf

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u/Caroniver413 Dec 04 '21

This was 3 years ago we can probably just look him up

EDIT: Ah. Never mind. They specifically avoided listing his name. He's definitely still a cop.

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u/DrowsyDreamer Dec 04 '21

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u/Fullertonjr Dec 04 '21

He resigned and was allowed to resign due to his identity being discovered. I would assume that the local pd was aware of exactly who he was, as just changing his name doesn’t prevent them from completing a legitimate background check. Meaning, they knew his background and hired him anyway.

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u/albinohut Dec 04 '21

Or they knew his background and hired him because of it.

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u/dockellis24 Dec 04 '21

I wish there was a way to keep track of these shitty cops as citizens. We should be able to know who works for the local police departments and be able to see their records. If there was an ability for some communal oversight we could petition to have bad police to be removed. Ah, but this is a cognitive distortion of another reality in my head…

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u/iwannagohome49 Dec 04 '21

I wish you the best of luck in that endeavor. Unfortunately that would be shining to bright a light on the police departments.

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u/BreathOfFreshWater Dec 04 '21

I think John Oliver did an amazing segment on how police are just shuffled around after gross misuse of power. Like one cop fucked up 14 times and he basically doxed the guy.

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u/elpideo18 Dec 04 '21

With a promotion

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u/ScorchedSynapses Dec 04 '21

And a raise...

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u/BlueberryNo3773 Dec 04 '21

And extra benefits

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u/SVClaw Dec 04 '21 Silver Helpful Wholesome

And my axe!

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u/ba3toven Dec 04 '21 Silver Helpful

Jesus christ Gimli we're talking about police brutality you can't just keep coming in saying that shit like we're in Middle Earth

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u/benargee Dec 04 '21

"Good work officer. Just try not to get caught next time"

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u/Big_Daddy_Kayne Dec 04 '21

The fact that the other 2 officers weren't fired as well is the main problem. They know he was wrong but they rarely police each other. That's the thin blue line

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u/Dsyfer Dec 04 '21

The 'thin blue line' exists and was pretty prevalent in this situation.

Just like the cop who fired eight shots into the wheelchair-bound man, killing him and none of his fellow officers who were present arrested him for murder. He was fired, but thus far, I can't find any proof that he's going to jail for homicide.

https://www.kcci.com/article/arizona-police-officer-fired-after-fatally-shooting-man-in-a-wheelchair-officials-say/38402053

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u/madmosche Dec 04 '21

Oh no, he was fired for murder. No he can go work at the police department in the next town over to murder another unarmed person in a wheelchair.

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u/petalumaisreal Dec 04 '21

Good point. And I don’t think that officer would have been fired if not for the video being released.

That police chief is so slick and savvy he defends the cop in every little way he possibly can -“doesn’t have a racist bone in his body” - “former marine” - “absolutely broke no law”. Police chiefs are basically politicians who protect the force. I dunno it’s just depressing.

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u/pete_ape Dec 04 '21

Sorry Chief, bit false imprisonment is a crime...

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u/Qubeye Dec 04 '21

People who have been kicked out of the Marines and imprisoned for raping children are also "former Marines."

That phrase does not mean shit.

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u/fastcapy Dec 04 '21

As a former cop I'm going to correct you on a point you made.

"Police chiefs are basically politicians"

That is incorrect.

"Police chiefs are politicians" is the correct phraseology.

I made it 3 years before getting feed up with the BS and went into security consulting.

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u/PicturesAtADiary Dec 04 '21

It's pretty cool that you have first degree experience having worked on the job, do you want to talk about what kind of BS made you leave the force? Your comment got me curious

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u/Zimmers_00 Dec 03 '21

I liked this part from the Cheif

"“We are not perfect and we are going to make mistakes … but we do want to do the very best job that we can … and we do want the community to have faith in us.”"

Well this sure isnt a good way to go about doing so.

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u/redditpulledmebackin Dec 04 '21

“…we are not perfect” I expect them to say that when they fuck up some paper work. Not when they abuse their authority and physically harm/detain a person. Why is this mentality even allowed in the police force? Cops should not be allowed to make mistakes, mistakes should be punished, just like they would a regular civilian making the same mistake. Actually they should be punished more severely than a regular civilian because we should hold them to a higher standard. We literally let them commit crimes and walk away. The entire police force and the laws they hide behind needs to be changed. They don’t even hide the fact that they are corrupt, it’s just standard now to them. “We aren’t perfect” good cover for their abuse. Imagine a bomb defuser making a bomb instead of defusing it and they cover it up with “we aren’t perfect”.

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u/Litz-a-mania Dec 04 '21

The officer unlawfully detained someone. He should be charged the same way that I would if I did that to a stranger on the street.

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u/Romeo_Zero Dec 04 '21

Sure, cops should be allowed to make mistakes. As humans we all make mistakes. Didn’t see you had your seatbelt on, ma’am but I was mistaken. Have a good day, sorry for pulling you over. I thought I saw you flashing your lights at me but you hit a bump, my mistake. Sorry for pulling you over, I thought your tail light was out, my mistake.

Getting in someone’s face when they didn’t back down from you and arresting them is not a mistake. It’s not the first time it has happened either.

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u/Sinful_Whiskers Dec 04 '21

I got pulled over once and the cop said it was because I didn't have my seatbelt on. I always wear my seatbelt. It was such a weird conversation because I am the person who knows whether it was on or not and yet he's telling me I didn't have it on. After I insisted multiple times that I did in fact have my belt on earlier, he just said, "well make sure you always buckle up from now on." He just couldn't admit that he may have been wrong.

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u/redpurplegreen22 Dec 04 '21

I got pulled over on my way home from work around midnight, back when I was 19. I remember the conversation distinctly because it was such a shitty mindfuck of a conversation.

Officer: You know why I pulled you over?

Me: I do not. I wasn’t speeding, so I have no idea.

Officer: Have you been drinking?

Me: No.

Officer: You sure?

Me: Yes

Officer: Yes, you’ve been drinking?

Me: No, I have not been drinking.

Officer: So you weren’t drinking.

Me: I was not drinking.

Officer: You’ve never drank?

Me: I was not drinking.

Officer: So just to clarify, you were drinking?

Me: I was not drinking (I just began repeating this).

Officer: Just wanted to make sure you weren’t drinking.

Me: I was not drinking.

Officer: So you weren’t drinking?

Me: I was not drinking (I was growing increasingly monotone because I was getting pissed and didn’t want to give him an excuse).

Officer: License and registration?

Me (hands it over): I was not drinking.

Officer: You sure you don’t need a sobriety test?

Me: I was not drinking.

Officer: I’ll be right back.

He went away for a while. I considered calling my mom (she worked for a defense attorney as a paralegal, so she went over all the ways to handle these situations), but knew if I picked up my phone he’d find a way to turn it on me, so I sat with my hands on the wheel. After ten minutes he finally came back and handed me my stuff.

Officer: I better not catch you drinking.

Me: I was not drinking.

The dude literally stared at me for another minute or so looking pissed, using his flashlight to scan my truck (which literally had nothing out, I had just cleaned it) before leaving.

Fuck that guy. He was desperate for a reason to arrest me, and looked genuinely annoyed that I didn’t give him one.

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u/PreppyFinanceNerd Dec 04 '21

I feel you. One time a cop opened with "How much marijuana have you smoked today"

Bro who the fuck starts a conversation like that. Calm down.

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u/selectash Dec 04 '21

He knew exactly what he was doing, he was insisting for a reason, the moment you would have admitted that maybe the belt could have been off, (you know, like a normal person when someone insists so much, out of courtesy), he would have issued a ticket adding you have admitted to the infraction.

He was probably trying to reach his quota that day.

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u/the_blackfish Dec 04 '21

All while sniffing as best they could.

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u/curiousbeingalone Dec 04 '21

They made mistakes on the car accident I was involved in. When I explained why, the officer accused me of having time to 'contemplate'. As an organization, they're piece of shit.

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u/FountainsOfFluids Dec 04 '21

"well make sure you always buckle up from now on." He just couldn't admit that he may have been wrong.

This really nails the mentality. Even when internally they realize they were wrong, they absolutely cannot say it out loud. Like Trump, they start sounding incoherent, because they cannot verbalize the obvious facts. It turns into nonsense and babble, then they walk away like they are still hot shit.

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u/SirStrontium Dec 04 '21

And afterward, the memory is locked away, never to be used for even a moment of self-reflection.

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u/melvilleismycopilot Dec 03 '21

Police Chief: “I want to emphasize that as strong as I can, that officer did not commit any crime at all. He did not violate that individual’s rights in any shape, fashion form that was a lawful contact, it was a lawful arrest based on probable cause.”

Buh buh buh bullshit

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u/NRMusicProject Dec 04 '21

He did not violate that individual’s rights in any shape

Except for, you know, arresting him for saying something the officer didn't like. That's a First Amendment violation.

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u/PanduhMoanYum Dec 04 '21

Probable cause of what? Having his feelers hurt? Badge does not equate omnipotence.

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u/FXOAuRora Dec 04 '21

Badge does not equate omnipotence.

And even if you are extremely powerful how you act with those you have power over shows quite a bit about your character (something these kind of police reveal on an almost daily basis it seem). It's like these positions that give people power (over others) seem to summon exactly that, people who seek power over others (police, politicians, you name it). I guess it shouldn't be surprising when stuff like this happens considering the fact that American police don't even exist (legally speaking) to protect/serve the communities that created them in any way in the first place.

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u/gothism Dec 04 '21

Then why did they fire him?

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u/NewPastHorizons Dec 04 '21

The article never says he was fired.

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u/Staaaaation Dec 04 '21

Yup. Found him and this is the latest I could find. Just moved on, who knows where he's moved onto now.

https://www.petersburgpilot.com/story/2020/07/02/news/questions-remain-around-former-wrangell-police-officer/9887.html

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u/YARA2020 Dec 04 '21

Took way too long for an article to name him. Thanks for the info.

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u/Strange-Beacons Dec 03 '21

Officer got canned.

When I was a teenager, way, way back before everyone carried a video camera around with them, cops used to do this kind of thing all the time. And you know what? The cops always got away with it. Every single time. I'm glad to see that things have changed, at least a little.

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u/bestbegreat Dec 04 '21

Same. Bashed my head while putting me in a cop car for a minor consumption of alcohol charge. I was 19 yrs old. Then tried to get me for assault when I didn't even lay a finger on him. All charges were dropped except for the minor consumption of alcohol. Wish we had cameras back then.

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u/ProblemLongjumping12 Dec 03 '21 Silver

At times it occurs to me that being a cop, especially in America, is specifically associated with being violent and lording power over other people which is why the people who feel most attracted to that line of work are so frequently the ones who least belong in it. What if cops were drafted based on their morals, ethics, demeanor, and problem solving skills instead of governments just giving guns and badges to goons who want more than anything to crack heads open. Just a thought.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21 edited Dec 04 '21

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u/regigeegity Dec 03 '21

He's probably just a fucking douche who can't handle other people looking at him the wrong way. He could've gone on a power trip with anyone he deemed "looking down on him" He definitely doesn't belong in a police force, but also doesn't mean he is racist.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '21

Yea I didn't see any clear racism, dude is just a fucking psycho. But he probably is also racist if we are playing the odds on any given cop.

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u/inflatableje5us Dec 03 '21

eating at taco bell once a week does not make you Hispanic.

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u/DarkPangolin Dec 03 '21

That cop clearly eats Taco Bell way more than twice a week.

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u/camerascott Dec 04 '21

Ha ha. Great. And the PD in the next town over will hire this guy who has an ego and a chip the size of a boulder on his shoulder.

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u/Gcarsk Dec 04 '21

And the other cops? Jesus Christ. All officers in this video should have been charged with false imprisonment. Insane that anyone is okay with them leaving unpunished.

We really need more laws that put harsher-than-normal penalties against crimes committed by active judges, politicians, cops, etc.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

Every other cop there should have Been canned as well for not stopping him

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u/deadghoti Dec 03 '21

Piece of shit cop

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u/Otherwise_Bill_5898 Dec 03 '21

All of the police there are as guilty.

Why did not one of them have the courage to do the right thing?

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u/Jjhammer31 Dec 03 '21

Exactly, he had as much right to handcuff that guy as anyone else, which is none. This isn't a mistake, it's a crime. The other officers are accomplices.

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u/TheFirstEdition Dec 04 '21

These types of cases where cops push the law need a larger repercussion. They should be barred from working any government job for five years to life.

It scares me because what if he wasn’t on film? He would be facing bogus charges. Maybe even disappear into the “justice” system.

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u/Tuckingfypowastaken Dec 04 '21

Jail time. They committed a crime, which makes them criminals. The appropriate punishment is jail time.

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u/Nightsky31602 Dec 04 '21

From what some other people have been saying and a few articles I’ve seen a while back myself, any officer who would try to stop someone like the officer(s) we see here would be labelled as a traitor and would disappear from the police force sooner rather than later, maybe even faster than the people actually doing wrong.

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u/EunuchNinja Dec 04 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

Perfect example of those “few bad apples” spoiling the bunch.

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u/The_Tavern Dec 04 '21

Or the reverse? No good apples allowed!

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u/DingosAteMyHamster Dec 04 '21

I guess it's similar to survivorship bias, in that people who speak up are booted out, and over time the only ones left are the ones that don't give a fuck or do it themselves. The barrel is full of bad apples because the nice ones all got eaten.

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u/Edolas93 Dec 04 '21

Disgustingly, more reprocutions would fall onto the cop that tried to do the right thing than the jackass cop. Can't have an officer highlight what scumbags other cops are by..... not being a scumbag.... lojik.

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u/Nightsky31602 Dec 04 '21

It’s really unfortunate that our system is like this, just turning a blind eye on a lot of these issues

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u/DingoAteUrBaby1 Dec 03 '21

Here we have a wild American cop looking for their next shooting victim.

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u/Phalanx_02 Dec 04 '21 Wholesome

When the cop was so close

The guy should've replied with "bro this is so gay"

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u/topsecreteltee Dec 04 '21

“Stop trying to kiss me Officer!”

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u/sirius4778 Dec 04 '21

Okay maybe just one kiss

👁️👁️

👃

💋

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u/CharlieHume Dec 04 '21

a cop one time got in my face and told me he'd gladly take me on a ride to have a talk anytime I want, it took everything in my power not to ask if he was asking me on a date or threatening to kill me

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u/Termin8tor Dec 04 '21

Lmfao, this got me good. It would have been ideal to say "I prefer to be wined and dined first."

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u/Chairmanmeowrightnow Dec 04 '21

I had a cop get super aggressive with me, and I started talking about him making my boyfriend jealous (I’m a dude) and he didn’t stay quite as close; weaponize the homophobia in your favor.

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u/No-Comb402 Dec 03 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

All involved officers should be fired.

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u/Jjhammer31 Dec 03 '21 Silver

Why? Just because they participated in a crime?

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u/Sufficient_Lake_9849 Dec 04 '21 All-Seeing Upvote Wholesome Seal of Approval

Yeah

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u/Jjhammer31 Dec 04 '21 All-Seeing Upvote Wholesome Seal of Approval

Oh that makes sense.

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u/any_name_today Dec 04 '21

I love the facetious tone I read your comments in. Thank you

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u/Alpha_Decay_ Dec 04 '21

Thank yourself, that facetious tone was within you the whole time!

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u/iHasMagyk Dec 04 '21

I think a lot of people are missing the sarcasm here but the faux obliviousness is pretty funny. Especially considering so many Thin Blue Liners act exactly like that. I seriously hear people defend Philip Brailsford because they say that Daniel Shaver was a criminal…

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u/FerusGrim Dec 04 '21

This is so fucking deadpan I love it.

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u/HijacksMissiles Dec 03 '21

From this dude's police chief:

“I want to emphasize that as strong as I can, that officer did not commit any crime at all. He did not violate that individual’s rights in any shape, fashion form that was a lawful contact, it was a lawful arrest based on probable cause.”

I dunno, last I checked insulting someone was not grounds for being arrested.

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u/Electrical-Energy896 Dec 03 '21

The man in the video was detained, but was also released on the scene when he and the other party involved in the disturbance declined to press charges. However, the disturbance incident has since been handed over to the Riverside District Attorney’s Office since one of them was hit with the beer bottle during the altercation.

It sounds like they were responding to some kind of incident involving the guy when the “mad dogging” (lol) started. Probably used that as an excuse to detain him.

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u/jrrybock Dec 04 '21

Until he reached out to grab the wrist of the guy to handcuff him, he kept his hand over his body cam. Now, the other cops were wearing theirs (can't tell if they're on) but at least someone recorded it. But covering a body cam should be treated like manipulating evidence and a cop keeping his hand over it for any period of time should be disciplined, even if he'd been in the right for this detention.

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u/improbablynotyou Dec 04 '21

I've noticed a trend in my neighborhood where the cops always have a face mask hanging over their bodycam instead of on their face.

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u/KevinAlertSystem Dec 04 '21

fabricating evidence is not a crime for police, didn't you hear?

a guy literally just got exonerated after decades in jail because a cop fabricated evidence...no charges for the cop. This happens all the time and cops are never prosecuted.

hell they fucking steal drugs from evidence and sell them and are rarely prosecuted for that either.

police are above the law in the US because they are cronies of the prosecutors and judges. The US legal system is really all about cronyism and any spiel about laws mattering is a farce.

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u/Able_Psychology_474 Dec 03 '21

Cop told him to turn around cause he got his feelings hurt. Didn’t want him to see him cry while in uniform

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u/Future-Original-1977 Dec 03 '21

Cops don’t like being called out on their lack of education

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u/havethenets Dec 04 '21

lol they’re usually uneducated idiots

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u/MelGibsonDerp Dec 04 '21

You can LITERALLY be too smart to be a cop

A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

Most Cops Just Above Normal The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.

No it's not an Onion article but it should be.

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u/Marionette777 Dec 04 '21

Wow, I didn't realize I still had any shreds of faith in humanity left but I just felt the last one leave

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u/SuccessfulBroccoli68 Dec 04 '21

I was going to be a cop but then I graduated from high school.

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u/M4RTIAN Dec 04 '21

Hey hold on now. I don’t know what all those words mean, so imma take it as disrespect. inflates chest

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u/Hello_boii Dec 03 '21

I always like when police do some power abuse then max they get is getting fired. But when citizen does same shit then they go to jail.

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u/Lets_get_this_head Dec 04 '21

If anyone ever asks “what am I being arrested for?” The cop should be able to give a clear, legitimate answer… anything else is just childish.

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u/suicide48 Dec 03 '21

I hate cops and those other cops who protect thoer shotty actions.

1 cop who does this and 1000 who don't but don't report him make that 1001 bad cops.

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u/bertiebastard Dec 03 '21

Chief Mondary does want to make it clear that the officer did not break the law, “I want to emphasize that as strong as I can, that officer did not commit any crime at all. He did not violate that individual’s rights in any shape, fashion form that was a lawful contact, it was a lawful arrest based on probable cause.

More police BS

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u/Jjhammer31 Dec 03 '21

If you can't arrest someone for mad dogging you, who can you arrest?

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u/Cyral Dec 04 '21

You mean Chief Dale Mondary, who covered up the behavior of his officers? The same Dale Mondary who resigned after sending inappropriate messages to a woman?

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u/willreignsomnipotent Dec 04 '21

"Stop mad dogging me. Go ahead and touch me again..."

... He says while literally standing with this guy's legs between his, leaning into the guy's face.

What a weak-ego'ed little bitch.

And assholes like this are the exact reason the word "pig" exists.

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u/duvetdave Dec 04 '21

As the other officers look on at this and do nothing about it. Literally a blue wall of silence. This is the problem.

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u/magolor98 Dec 04 '21

"he is being handcuffed until we figure it out"

they literally admit they have no reason for doing it

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21 edited Dec 03 '21

Apparently this is what "protect and serve" means these days

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u/New-Square3037 Dec 03 '21

The only thing police “protect and serve” is the state.

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u/needsmoresteel Dec 03 '21

Themselves first, then the state.

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u/clubberin Dec 04 '21

I’m still trying to figure out how “resisting arrest” is a primary and arresting offense.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '21

You're under arrest! For what? Resisting arrest! Nah it makes total sense 🤦‍♂️

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u/Marauder121 Dec 03 '21

Which one is the "good cop"?

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u/hyper_biscuit Dec 03 '21

I'm genuinely curious here, after seeing so many videos showing American police using poor judgement, abusing their authority and justify force with odd reason. What training do they get, and to what level? British police have very thorough training and are on probation for their first 2 years I believe, then there is continuous professional development throughout their career. Do US police have this?

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u/Catch-1992 Dec 03 '21 Silver

They're allowed to give you a test and if it shows you're too smart they can use that as a reason to reject you so...

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u/-B-H- Dec 04 '21

This sounds like sarcasm, but unfortunately true.

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u/Rigzin_Udpalla Dec 04 '21

What was the thought process behind making this possible? „So yeah we will do this test to make sure our cops aren’t blatant idiots.“ „But what if they are smart? Can we really allow cops being smart?“ „Oh sit you are right. So if the test is 90%+ correct we will also reject the apprentice.“

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u/Catch-1992 Dec 04 '21

They say it's because people who are more intelligent can get bored easier and will then quit early on. Even if the reasoning is true, the fact remains that they aren't necessarily striving for the cream of the crop.

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u/reonholdmessner Dec 04 '21

Retention. They're afraid the smart ones won't stick around.

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u/Rigzin_Udpalla Dec 04 '21

I rather have 5 years a smart cop then 15 years a stupid instead of 20 years a stupid cop tbh

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u/HijacksMissiles Dec 03 '21 edited Dec 04 '21

US police require almost no real education.

In my state the curriculum requirements for becoming a cop involve approximately 679 hours of training.

Of that total, only 83.5 hours are dedicated to law and legal procedures.

So while an attorney spends close to a decade studying, a cop is granted nearly unlimited civil authority after what is essentially 1.5 weeks of full-day academic training.

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u/Darmok_ontheocean Dec 04 '21

Lmao two weeks on law and legal procedures?

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u/HijacksMissiles Dec 04 '21

Well, if they get a full 8 hour academic day, likely broken up into 1-3hr modules, every day they will complete their legal training in about a week and a half.

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u/iamtheclaudius Dec 04 '21

Law student here. We spend 3 years. Not sure where you're getting "close to a decade" from.

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u/Bronco-Fury Dec 03 '21

They just need to barely graduate from high school then 4-6 months of academy training depending on the agency. Most of the Federal Agents need to be educated and have a lot more training. State and local take dumb uneducated officers who they can control.

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u/SpicyHashbrowns Dec 03 '21

2 years? That'd be a dream.American police go to Academy for 6 to 8 months.

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u/Waderriffic Dec 04 '21

Police in this country have the barest of minimums they have to meet to become a LEO. Most of the guys like this one are former military and come into the force with a superiority complex. They don’t give a fuck about training and do the minimum to not get fired. Even if they royally fuck something up they get their union rep to smooth things over or their superiors just don’t give a shit because that would mean they would have to fill out paperwork and train a new LEO to replace this asshole.

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u/Armsmaker Dec 03 '21

Arrested for 1st degree mad-dogging

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u/AnalTuberculosis Dec 04 '21

truly a crime worst than murder

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u/MealDramatic1885 Dec 03 '21

Two of my friends got pull over years ago. One officer asking the driver questions, the other walks up on the passenger and shines a light in his face. Then starts yelling at him to stop “Mean mugging him” and to “Look at the floor.”

Fucking ass hats

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u/cotterells Dec 03 '21

Number one reason for arrest. Hurt feelings

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u/Blacksun388 Dec 04 '21

“Why am I being detained?”

“IDK, reasons.”

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u/Rosy2020Derek Dec 03 '21

Right. Every word counts. He’s no longer in THIS department. So now he’s been reassigned to WHICH department? They neeed to fire all those idiot cops who were present at that scene. If they did nothing to stop the badgering then they are in fact participating and guilty by association.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '21

U see they make a problem and then act on it. Cops have gotten in my face trying to get me to do something. Here's a tip. DONT TALK TO COPS SHUT THE FUCK UP

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u/Inevitable-Yam6050 Dec 03 '21 edited Dec 03 '21

My opinion: All cops should not be able to arrest anyone without stating why they are being arrested. -change my mind

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u/HijacksMissiles Dec 03 '21

That's what the law says. Doesn't matter to the people with the badges and guns though.

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u/FlashpointJ24 Dec 04 '21

They just arrest you on grounds of resisting arrest.

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u/brodaget42 Dec 03 '21 Silver

Fuck all the cops. Everyone of them. Especially fuck the 2 cops standing there to allow this piece of shit to abuse his power.

"nOt eVeRy CoP iS bAd"

There are 3 bad cops in this video. One abusing the power the other 2 standing there allowing him to.

Fuck every cop

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u/PM_MeUrZettaiRyouiki Dec 04 '21

Not even just allowing it.

When the guy filming asked the other cop why they guy was being arrested he said "Well figure that out later"

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u/Jesse0449 Dec 04 '21

oh nooo!!!! that poor cops little ity bity ego...... better mend that shit quick.