r/facepalm Jun 29 '22 Helpful 5 Silver 4

But he needed that medication 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/filthy_pikey Jun 29 '22 Silver

Try mind over matter next time you get diarrhea and see how well that works for you.

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u/debzmonkey Jun 29 '22

Love the quote, "The people who say laughter is the best medicine never had gonorrhea."

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u/BlueRajasmyk2 Jun 29 '22

Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis

- Jack Handey

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u/rimjobnemesis Jun 29 '22

I love Jack Handey!!!

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u/LuxAlpha Jun 29 '22

Jack Handy was my nickname back in high school.

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u/rimjobnemesis Jun 29 '22

Uh…so you had Deep Thoughts?

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u/shiftycyber Jun 29 '22

When I was a kid my favorite relative was Uncle Caveman. After school we’d all go play in his cave, and every once in a while he would eat one of us. It wasn’t until later that I found out that Uncle Caveman was a bear.

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u/FloodedGoose Jun 30 '22

I believe in making the world a better place for our children, but not our children’s children…

Because I don’t believe children should be having sex.

-JH

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u/Eastern-Memory-4450 Jun 29 '22

Why in the hell did my brain see "never had a gorilla" jeez I need sleep I guess.

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u/TheOriginalChode Jun 29 '22

They've probably never had a gorilla either tbf.

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u/fdar Jun 29 '22

Yeah, you tell that to a sick gorilla and he'll punch your head off.

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u/Crislips Jun 29 '22

Mind over splatter

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

I’m an epileptic and I can’t tell you how many people have told me this. Either they don’t know what it is or they tell me oh you should try to be natural it’ll help.

Sorry I’m just trying not to convulse here, I’ll stick to my meds thanks.

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u/Stiboon Jun 29 '22

Might seem confrontational and/or hostile but due to different events such as Covid and the mess of political situations. I took to telling people “You don’t know.” Works with stuff about children too. The amount of people that want to give unsolicited advice or straight try to tell you what to do with them is crazy.

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u/Dogzillas_Mom Jun 30 '22

Are you drinking enough water? /s

That’s the first thing anyone says the minute they find out you have some ailment. I was recently diagnosed with migraines and I just laugh. Yes. I am drinking enough goddamn water and I get plenty of electrolytes and my blood is checked twice a year for that and a bunch of other things.

And try as I might, I cannot just lower my cholesterol with positive thinking. I even went vegetarian. It’s genetic for me so nothing I do or don’t do will affect my cholesterol except taking statin drugs. Which work. (And that’s why I do blood work twice a year to make sure that isn’t blowing out my liver or kidneys).

I hate that mind over matter bullshit. Mostly because I’ve had headaches my entire life. So far, nothing has helped. Ima try Botox soon.

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u/Throwaway02099999 Jun 30 '22

"You should try to be natural it'll help"
"Well, I do smoke Cannabis. It's natural."
"No, not that way!"

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '22

Ironically enough I do this.

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u/skeetsauce Jun 29 '22

I had a boss say something along these lines to me once. Dude just couldn’t grasp the idea that I’ve had organs removed that he hasn’t which impact my digestive health.

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u/herbys Jun 30 '22

You should try naturally regrowing those organs then. It's just a matter of willpower (I'm sure someone said at some point).

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u/ThumpyDumpkins Jun 29 '22

Just feed them poison and tell them that they will be fine as long as they believe they will be fine.

For all their apparent doubt in medical science, I bet they will pick up the phone to call for an ambulance.

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u/CurryKing0413 Jun 29 '22

I just clench so hard it goes solid, try harder.

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u/stupidcupidjules Jun 29 '22

As someone how survived acute c-diff during the peak of a lock down (32°C lowest), they can eat my arse, anywhere, anytime.

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u/DystopianRealist Jun 29 '22

Now I know where all the toilet paper went.

/s

C-Dif spores suck.

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u/Ragnar32 Jun 29 '22

Double c diff infections during lockdown and there isn't a combination of minds on this planet that could have kept my asshole closed. Stephen Hawking, Einstein and Aristotle would have wept and been washed away in the torrent that erupted from me.

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u/WomenAreNotReal Jun 29 '22

"Just stop having epilepsy loser lmao" is a weird take

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u/GrunthosArmpit42 Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

“You seem to have a hole in your brachial artery. Have you even tried not bleeding out? Hello?! Wake up sleepy head, I asked you a question! Get back to work!
Ugh. Millennials these days and their need for having blood on the inside of their bodies and privileged attitudes are the worst.” /s

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u/RoboDae Jun 29 '22 Timeless Beauty

Mr Burns has so many diseases that none of them can get through to affect him

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u/amntis1000 Jun 29 '22

It's called 3 stooges syndrome. He's indestructible

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u/SirMoeHimself Jun 30 '22

Actually no, no, in fact the slightest breeze could....

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u/starryhades4697 Jun 29 '22

And this adorable little cuttlebug is pancreatic cancer!

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u/KevinTheSeaPickle Jun 29 '22

Whatever it is, just pray it away. Everyone knows God'll fix it if you just pray hard enough. If it doesn't get better, you didn't pray hard enough.

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u/Zack_Raynor Jun 29 '22

Nah, if he didn’t get better, it was god’s plan all along.

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u/LittleTay Jun 29 '22

Freaking this. As someone who grew up in the church, I couldn't tell you how many times I have heard this

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u/Cycle-Apart Jun 30 '22

people that say shit like that don’t know a damn thing about what the Bible actually says, death and suffering was never gods plan. People don’t read their bibles and call themselves Christian :8484:

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u/histeethwerered Jun 29 '22

To be struggling with a damaged body and to be accosted by one of these “just pray to my god and you’ll be all fixed” people is a surreal experience marred by the breathless inability to correct their idiocy. Whatever shall they do if life bites them and their magic being ignores them?

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u/Darkmagosan Jun 30 '22

They whine and bitch and double down on the idiocy.

I've got a lot of autoimmune bullshit going on. Someone says prayer and essential oils to me, and they're dead serious about it, they'll be ducking a punch. I'll risk the assault charge if it shuts up Stupid.

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u/28inbirdyears Jun 30 '22

I had a seizure once in public and woke up to a woman praying over me. Then cops showed up and started asking me what drugs I was on.

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u/FlashKissesDeath Jun 29 '22

Or Jesus hates you and so do I

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u/agingergiraffe Jun 29 '22

Right. Or "I'd rather you had a seizure while watching my son rather than take medication in front of him!"

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u/yourboiquirrel Jun 29 '22

"i dont apprreciate you having an seizure in front of my son, its very irresponsible"

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u/DeskRider Jun 29 '22

"My son was traumatized by your ridiculous and unnecessary seizure today, and I will be suing you for compensation regarding his therapy costs."

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u/RoboDae Jun 29 '22

"I don't appreciate you letting yourself be possessed by demons in front of my son, it's very unholy"

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u/dancegoddess1971 Jun 29 '22

As a parent, that's a very weird take. Does this person consider how traumatic it would be to witness a seizure as a child? Even if they've been told what to expect, I can only imagine it's terrible.

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u/fleegness Jun 29 '22

As a nearly 30 year old adult at the time I witnessed a guy having a grand mal at the auto repair shop and my adrenaline went nuts.

I can only imagine witnessing what I saw as a kid.

Whereas, someone taking a pill probably wouldn't have even registered as anything to think about for any period of time at all.

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u/ToshiAyame Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

My mom had a seizure when I was home for lunch in 5/6th grade.

I lost my little mind and was more or less forced to go back to class. I spent the rest of the day freaked out and terrified my mom was going to die.

Those little orange pills keep her a functioning member of society, and I am grateful for them.

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u/amonarre3 Jun 29 '22

Shit the movie Reqium for a Dream had a seizure scene that is burned into my brain. Shit is horrific.

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u/gopherhole1 Jun 29 '22

Not when you parents demonize pills, probably why the kid noticed enough to bring it up

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u/ASenseOfYarning Jun 29 '22

It is terrible. I had a seizure once as a very young adult, and only my younger siblings were around. We were having a chill day, joking around, making Sims drown in ladder-less pools (as one does), and BAM seizure.

The first thing I remember is sitting up on the couch while my youngest sister is wailing like it's World War III. I had no idea why she was so upset, so I reach out to her saying, "it's okay. Hey, it's alright." And then I look around and wonder why there's all these strangers in uniforms hanging around the living room.

It took a few hours before my siblings calmed down and felt sure I was safe. I still hate that they had to go through that as kids, but also very proud that they knew to call an ambulance.

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u/Phuk_conservatives Jun 30 '22

Yeah, waking up in an ambulance as they were about to haul me away was kind of weird for me.

That and the blood on my face and clothes from having bit the side of my tongue during the seizure.

My gf looked totally traumatized as I walked back into the apartment. And she has anxiety issues already, so I am sure it scared the crap out of her.

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u/RCcars83 Jun 29 '22

My kids had a music teacher with epilepsy when they were in primary school (pre-k through 2nd grade). She had a seizure once, while rehearsing for a program. She had a guide dog and another teacher quickly came and took the kids to another room. My son witnessed it and said he was scared, even though she had talked to them about what might happen.

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u/Solonys Jun 29 '22

Does this person consider how traumatic it would be to witness a seizure as a child?

Speaking as someone who lives with epilepsy, most people who have never seen a seizure in real life don't understand what the experience is like. They think it's just a funny shaking on the floor and then the person gets up no problem.

Usually, seeing one in person cures people of these ideas and they tend to become hyper-vigilant, at least for a while, about anything they perceive as the start of a seizure. They also tend to treat you like an invalid for a couple of days, much to our annoyance.

If someone said something like what OP posted to me, my next and final text would be "I hope your kids will eventually learn compassion from someone, have a nice life".

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u/desrever1138 Jun 30 '22

My oldest son is epileptic and once had a seizure in class back in 8th grade and after, I asked him how he felt about everyone seeing him have an episode because I remember junior high and how brutal kids can be.

He said that he was glad because they all knew prior that he had seizures and, as much as he tried to explain what happens, they could never get it without experiencing it first hand.

Later, I talked his teacher and she said that as soon as he announced, "I'm going to have a seizure" the entire class rushed to him to support and keep him from falling a deep helped keep him safe while she called for the nurse.

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u/No_Marsupial_8678 Jun 29 '22

And right after that you should report that person to CPS. Those kids are not safe around someone that insane.

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u/cleverdylanrefrence Jun 29 '22

4 years ago my son witnessed me having a seizure. He's still a bit scarred, asks me everyday without fail if I remembered to take my meds. It's not something he or I ever want to experience ever again.

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u/HollyBerries85 Jun 29 '22

Dude, my adult son started having regular grand mal seizures in his sleep (thankfully now well controlled by medication) and I still, a year after last witnessing one, go into a low-key panic attack when I hear a weird noise that might be one starting up. They are *terrifying* to watch even as an adult, you feel so helpless and so fearful that it won't stop, or something awful will happen during it.

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u/SellQuick Jun 29 '22

To be fair, a seizure is an excellent example of just how powerful and terrifying the mind can be over your matter when in the grips of unmedicated epilepsy.

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u/Daedalus_Machina Jun 29 '22

There it is. That's the stuff right there. It is mind over matter, but sometimes you don't want the mind to fucking win.

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u/smellsliketuna Jun 29 '22

Just try not to have seizures nbd

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u/Rikki-roo Jun 29 '22

Or like my entire family kept saying after i had to start taking seizure medication: “Stop faking it, you are healthy and fine.”

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u/PechyQueen13 Jun 29 '22

I'm so sorry you're family did that. Please know that i hope you are doing well and have them managed. At 10 my son started having seizures. The first one i saw I was so scared I puked. He's also on meds now and hasn't had one in over a year. I would throw serious hands if someone were to suggest he was faking it. Are you still in contact with your family?

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u/Automatic-Guess5314 Jun 30 '22

I once broke my arm, it was bent so the back of my fingers touched the elbow, but it didn't actually hurt much. So, I told my dad my arm was broken. He looked at me and asked if I was sure. I said "Dad, have you ever know anyone to have this many elbows on one arm?" We just stood there looking at each other for a moment before he made me a splint and we went to the hospital. At the hospital he asked the doctor was sure it was broken. The doctor gave him this look and replied I had a spiral compound fracture and would need surgery to set the arm. Later, I asked my dad why he was so skeptical. Apparently, I didn't cry enough. I'm sorry your family doesn't believe in seizures. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

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u/down4things Jun 29 '22

Like just don't start convulsing, idiot

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u/ChaosSlave51 Jun 29 '22

I don't think it had anything to do with that. This person was not going to be wrong, and doubled down like they would any time they were wrong.

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u/Formal_Letterhead514 Jun 29 '22

This person sounds so dumb I bet they don't even know what epilepsy is.

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u/ChipsHanden Jun 29 '22

Because they're ignorant. Ignorant people cannot perceive anything outside their life experience. Ergo "if I don't experience epilepsy, you don't either and must be making it up as an excuse to do drugs."

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u/dis_the_chris Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

As an epileptic, these people just need to try one 250mg pill of Keppra (levetiracetam) - a super common AED

Im almost totally used to it now after a few years on a high dosr but i remember that first time i took some. My head was pounding all day, my nose had never felt more uncomfortable. I had hardcore sniffles but my mucus was also dry and crackly. I felt dizzy and disoriented and it was so unbelievably unpleasant. Everything is irritating, you want ro fight everyone who breathes but you also just want to curl up and sleep forever because existence becomes so exhausting.

One pill and they will see that nobody would ever think to use this recreationally lmao

Side note - I also got to have some hardcore decompression sickness on my first flight after i started -- wasnt warned about that lol. When the plane started to land, the pressure change mixed with my medically-altered sinuses causes me to feel like someone was just jamming spikes up my nose for the whole way down

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u/55tarabelle Jun 29 '22

And here they're acting like epilepsy medicine is the good stuff. You don't take it for fun? /s Smh

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u/darnj Jun 29 '22

Could be Mormon. I had a Mormon friend who was against medicine, especially pills. He told me Tylenol a) doesn’t do anything, and b) is for people with weak spirit

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u/Protuhj Jun 29 '22

doesn’t do anything

"My back was hurting an hour ago, but now it feels fine.. what happened? Oh yeah, I took some pills."

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u/HoneyWizard Jun 29 '22

I think your friend was just odd. I grew up Mormon (atheist these days), and there isn't anything explicitly against medication in any of their books. Most of the stuff Mormons don't partake in comes from the Word of Wisdom, which includes things like no coffee, tea, tobacco, or alcohol. But the only guidance from the church regarding medicine is to avoid substances that are harmful or highly addictive, which could include misusing prescription drugs.

I did notice that there's a difference between Mormon teachings and Mormon culture, though. Like I knew a lot of kids that wouldn't drink Mountain Dew because it had more caffeine than other sodas, and they said too much caffeine is against the Word of Wisdom. But the actual text doesn't mention caffeine, and the church's advice is "everything in moderation". A lot of people just decided Mountain Dew was the cutoff for some reason and repeated it like it was gospel.

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u/opoqo Jun 29 '22

Well I guess we know who prefers to die alone in the hospital

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u/Felidaeh_ Jun 29 '22

What?? With all that equipment, and those doctors?

Don't you know doctors are a crutch?

Obviously mind over death!

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

"Medication is just a crutch" - Really? Next time you need a tooth pulled or surgery for something performed, you be sure to tell the doctor that medications are bullshit, so you won't be needing any Novocain and they don't need to bother putting you under before they start cutting into you. Dumbass...

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u/debzmonkey Jun 29 '22

A nice swift kick to the balls might do the trick.

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u/Singing_Wolf Jun 29 '22

"You know that guide dog and cane are just crutches. Have you tried squinting really hard?"

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u/lucifer-ase Jun 29 '22

In my darker moments I almost wish that people like that would be hit with some affliction that would make them realize first hand how fucking stupid statements like this are

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u/sexbuhbombdotcom Jun 29 '22 Silver All-Seeing Upvote

See, you're a better person than me, because I mostly just wish they would be hit by cars.

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u/SonnyG33 Jun 29 '22

Or accidently bump into them really hard with your car because they didn't let you take your medication. Woops!

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u/Fraser022002 Jun 29 '22

‘Oh sorry I have extreme anger problems and that medication you told me not to take subdues it’

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u/nonyabuissnes95 Jun 29 '22

Just watch out better So u dont run into cars

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u/SonnyG33 Jun 29 '22

As long as they are in between, we are good to go!

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u/54697473 Jun 29 '22

They just have to mind themselves over the ~1.5 tonnes of matter hurtling towards them at breakneck speed.

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u/shellwe Jun 29 '22

That still applies, they will have a tough time coping with the pain without pills.

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u/Shadowmaker-553 Jun 29 '22

Right that would be nice, but those kind of people would still argue about it. Kinda like the women who get abortions because God tells them to but are pro life people who go protest abortions. It’s called delusional I think…

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u/SuperfnDave Jun 29 '22

I had a few suggestions during my rock bottom days of “ just quit, it’s not that hard”. Oh really? Damn why didn’t I think of that. I hate people that give advice without putting themselves in the other’s shoes

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u/lucifer-ase Jun 29 '22

Yes, I can’t stand people that don’t understand that addiction and mental disorders are actual diseases ( with very real functional alteration in the brain) and instead blather about morality and will power

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u/SuperfnDave Jun 29 '22

Also what pisses me off is people don’t acknowledge the addicts struggle during recovery. I went cold turkey off of heroin 8 years ago and still remember the pain and the constant thought of suicide. It took almost 18 months to truly find myself again. I honestly forgot who I was and my mental health was dog shit.

Then I’d have people that barely knew me asking questions and just assuming that everything is magically better after day 3 .

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u/Eviltechnomonkey Jun 29 '22

Statements like the one in the post are dangerous too. There have been people who died from their health conditions because family told them they didn't need to take the meds, blocked them from taking their meds, stole their meds, and/or destroyed their meds.

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u/lucifer-ase Jun 29 '22

Yes, or think about parents that refuse to allow proper medical care for their children because they are in some cult or religious fanatics

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u/Eviltechnomonkey Jun 29 '22

That shit is terrifying.

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u/Nollekowitsch Jun 29 '22

I wish that for these type of people every day. Talking shit about things they just dont have any idea about

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u/Life-Ad1409 'MURICA Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

This is the kind of person to tell ADHD people to "focus harder"

Edit: I've so far received 2 comments about comparing ADHD to epilepsy, I never meant to downplay epilepsy in any way whatsoever

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u/JustLinus Jun 29 '22

Or people with asthma to just breath harder

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u/filthy_pikey Jun 29 '22

Or people with depression to just be happy.

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u/Proccito Jun 29 '22

Or people with dyslexia to learn to read.

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u/Open-Establishment16 Jun 29 '22

Or people who are paralyzed to just start moving

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u/CyanBeinSus47 Jun 29 '22

Or people who have nightmares to “dream happier”

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u/Rewiistdummlolxd Jun 29 '22

Or people who have eating disorders to "just eat more/less"

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u/Echo13D Jun 29 '22

or people with autism to just not be shy

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u/insertclevername9 Jun 29 '22

Or people with erectile dysfunction to just get harder

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u/PranshuKhandal Jun 29 '22

or dead people to live

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u/Drewgon69 Jun 29 '22

Or people with glasses to see better

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u/suzy9mm Jun 29 '22

Or people with Chrons to just hold it.

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u/Cheap_Ad_69 I want hugs Jun 29 '22

Or people who have anxiety to just ignore it

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '22

Or redditors to just get laid

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u/brjukva Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

Happened to my dyslexic son. His primary school teacher thought he was just not trying hard enough so she's been giving him twice as much to read compared to other children. He hated reading, then he hated himself for not not being anle to read normally.

She only believed he was dyslexic when I put my son through a lengthy medical evaluation and brought her an official conclusion.

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u/gandalf239 Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

My teenaged child's school has been giving me the runaround in trying to establish ADHD accommodations; I'm having to get a hard copy of their QB test results.

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u/anonymous_coward69 Jun 29 '22

Have you tried not being depressed? (Seriously had a very religious teacher tell me that).

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u/MossyMemory Jun 29 '22

My response to that will always be “Yes, and it hasn’t fucking worked.

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u/keysconch Jun 29 '22

"Put on your big girl panties and get over it." That was my favorite.

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u/Big_fern189 Jun 29 '22

I had a football coach in high school who treated my life threatening asthma like it was a personal failure of mine. Hes now dead and I'm not sad about it

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u/OnlyOneIronMan888 Jun 29 '22

"Breathe air"

       - Andrew Tate

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u/RomanWasHere2007 Jun 29 '22

I read it as Andrew Taste instead of Tate at first

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u/aufrenchy Jun 29 '22

I have been told this while on the verge of an asthma attack. Like, no shit, if I could breath any harder I might damage something!

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u/bustrpoindextr Jun 29 '22

To be fair they are breathing pretty hard, it's not just effective because the airway's restricted.

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u/Lazy_Profession_5909 Jun 29 '22

I've definitely been told to "just breathe" when I was choking on my own lung before

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u/Satanicjamnik Jun 29 '22

True story. I grew up tin the times where being left. - handed was considered a disability in my country.

Back when I was in primary school, the teachers were trying to " cure" two of my classmates of being lefties. Horrific. I swear it fucked them up for life.

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u/starsandshards Jun 29 '22

I was meant to be left-handed but I went to a Catholic school so they trained it out of me. As an adult I'm clumsy and my handwriting sucks. I tried doing some household stuff with my left hand and it's so much EASIER.

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u/zombiemann Jun 29 '22

I was meant to be left-handed but I went to a Catholic school so they trained it out of me.

Same, if by "trained" you mean beat the shit out of you with a yard stick any time they caught you using your left hand......

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u/starsandshards Jun 29 '22

Word, I didn't get hit with a stick because that was banned by then BUT I did get slaps to my hands and my cutlery switched around at meal times to force me to use my right hand.

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u/Anger_Mgmt_issues Jun 29 '22

I was ambidextrous. This horrified teachers and they forced me to be right handed only.

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u/TheXenoRaptorAuthor Jun 29 '22

Being ambidextrous is basically having super-powers IRL. "WITH OUR POWERS COMBINED" and stuff.

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u/Trumpet6789 Jun 29 '22

Helped out at a church run foodbank, even though I'm pagan, to write a research paper about the differences between state funded and person funded foodbanks. Just to set the scene and have context.

I forget why it got brought up, but I mentioned being Autistic and having ADHD. One of the volunteers and his wife set into me, along with another volunteer, about how I was "inviting sickness" to myself and wanting to be sick by saying I had ADHD and Autism.

They kept going about how I needed to "give my ailments up to the Lord" and that he would take it away and cure me. That I was inviting Satan into my life by "accepting" my sickness.

I simply said, "I am Autistic and have ADHD. I've been that way since I was in the womb, and I will be that way forever. It's not a bad thing, it's not a sickness. It simply who I am." And they did not like hearing that.

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u/BackThatThangUp Jun 29 '22

‘No, surely my wishful thinking will allow me to influence reality. The alternative is too scary.’

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u/weatherseed Jun 29 '22

What alternative is that, Bob?

"That people are different!"

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u/stormhunter2 Jun 29 '22

if giving ailments up to the lord could solve all problems, cancer wouldn't be an issue anymore, vaccines wouldnt be necessary, and so many other things. I imagine that's what they tell themselves everytime they get a cold/flu

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u/Trumpet6789 Jun 29 '22

It was one of the weirdest pieces of "advice" I've ever gotten from Christians before. Like, how am I supposed to "give" my Autism or my ADHD to jesus???

"Hey God, it's me, do you uh....want my Autism?"

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u/bfdiisgreat Jun 29 '22

Or people with Alzheimer's to just remember better

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u/jradio Jun 29 '22

Or people with Alzheimer's to just remember better

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u/fergster2000 Jun 29 '22

You know who else has dementia?

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u/tinydonuts Jun 29 '22

What were we talking about?

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u/AscendedAncient Jun 29 '22

Is it time for lunch yet?

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u/mayonnaise30 Jun 29 '22 Ally

Or people with depression that they need to exercise more and spend time outside

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u/Desperate_Ambrose Jun 29 '22

"What do you have to be depressed about?"

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u/mariabrinkfan82 Jun 29 '22

Love that one. Hear it constantly. My mom's famous pull yourself up by your bootstraps saying.

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u/MangledSunFish Jun 29 '22

"Why doesn't my child visit me anymore? Surely it's not because I treated them like shit for most of their childhood? No, no it couldn't be that. I am not the problem, I am never wrong."-some people's parents

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u/CarlLlamaface Jun 29 '22

Mum what are you doing on Reddit? Go back to your stupid facebook games.

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u/TatteredCarcosa Jun 29 '22

That's the most frustrating IMO, because that's the whole fucking point! If you have a good reason to feel depressed and you do, you don't necessarily have a mental illness you are just responding rationally to circumstances. The entire goddamn basis of it being a mental illness is that there is not rational reason to feel as bad as you do, you just do.

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u/Sospuff Jun 29 '22

Both my mom and my wife did that. Turns out therapy worked better.

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u/iuhiscool Jun 29 '22

Those damn phones!11!!!1!11

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u/MagicalDoshDosh Jun 29 '22

Hi, depressed person here. Those things actually really help with depression.

The problem with the shitty, shallow advice these people give is that it always boils down to blame; they don't really want to help.

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u/mayonnaise30 Jun 29 '22

I hav depression, anxiety and adhd, and I agree they do help but the issue is getting the motivation to do then

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u/MagicalDoshDosh Jun 29 '22

It's so, so hard. I started with yoga for like 20 minutes every 6 or so days, if that helps. Had the most success with setting an alarm to do it and then not looking at the alarm until it went off. I still struggle keeping the habit tbh.

Hugs 💚

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u/ngatiara Jun 29 '22

Also depressed here, and with huge social anxiety at the moment. Yes, going outside for a walk does help, exercise does help, but medication can also help and is sometimes needed and shouldn't be something shameful.

People who say "just get over it. Just go for a walk. Just be happy" are just shaming those who do need medication to help control their depression. And it needs to stop. These same people wouldn't turn down pain medication if they needed it, so why should a chemical imbalance that needs correcting with the help of medication not get the same consideration?

(Not directed at you in any way, just a continuation of your thoughts!)

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u/Nuicakes Jun 29 '22

I have anxiety, ADHD and constantly battle depression, plus I'm introverted. I hate when people tell me to "go make friends".

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u/ngatiara Jun 29 '22

Such a stupid thing to say. Like it's that easy.

The anxiety is a new thing for me, mostly because I have serious health issues and I'm currently on immunotherapy medications so going anywhere where there's a large amount of people who may or may not be doing the correct things to keep others well makes me incredibly anxious. I'm not currently medicated for it because of being on so many other meds for my immune system and my chronic pain condition, and it's not entirely crippling yet but yea I'm not exactly making friends right now - I'm barely seeing the few friends I do have!

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u/MagicalDoshDosh Jun 29 '22

Yeah I agree completely. When your expression of personal needs require someone else to challenge their core beliefs, they might just take it out on you rather than change.

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u/CantaloupeMoney9906 Jun 29 '22

I've been working out 4-6x per week for the last 10 years and I skateboard. Still get miserably depressed when I'm off meds. Mf's assuming they know better than you and your doctor are dumb as fuck.

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u/Smodphan Jun 29 '22

I mean i do recommend it. Nothing quite like taking some drugs and going for a walk outside.

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u/mayonnaise30 Jun 29 '22

As someone with anxiety, depression, adhd and a love for weed, I concur

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u/debzmonkey Jun 29 '22

To "buck up" and have a better attitude.

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u/Deezle530 Jun 29 '22

What sucks is depression is what's keeping me from doing something about it.

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u/Ramza_Claus Jun 29 '22

In fairness, the medical researchers that discovered depression was an actual mental illness gave it a stupid name. They named after an existing temporary condition ("depression") and now most people assume that clinical depression is the same as "I'm sad because my boss is a jerk" or whatever. They did the same with anxiety disorder. Imagine if diabetes was called "frequent urination and sugar sensitivity" or something stupid like that.

They did the same damn thing with dietary fats. They used a word that has historically meant "overweight" when naming a necessary macronutrient. Probably could've called them lipids or something besides the word that mean "ugly, overweight, gross".

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u/Dark-Lillith Jun 29 '22

That’s my mom.

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u/lolzycakes Jun 29 '22

Ever notice how a lot of the top tips on managing ADHD generally amount to "Have you tried not having ADHD".

Trouble focusing on a task? Remove all distractions!

Trouble staying organized? Try an organizational system!

Hyperfocused on something unimportant? Prioritize something else instead!

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u/ToujoursFidele3 Jun 29 '22

Ah, the old "just get a planner"

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u/GuitarCFD Jun 29 '22

Not proud of it, but I was that person when my oldest son was in Kindergarten. He was really struggling for the first half of the year and when evaluation showed he had ADHD I was completely against medicating him for it. In my defense, when I was in school the medicines available basically made anyone taking them a zombie so my argument wasn't that he just needed to focus harder, but that I didn't want to make my kid always feel like he had to be almost in a coma to be in class. Shared these concerns with the doctor who informed me that ADHD medications have come a long way. My son started on Vyvanse after the Christmas break and was a model student. The only downside to that medication was that he had to learn to force himself to eat, because Vyvanse was also an appetite suppressant.

What's more is there was one saturday where I got my blood pressure medications mixed up with my ex wife's Vyvanse...I've never gotten more done in a single day in my life.

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u/nyuon676 Jun 29 '22

A ridged eating schedule helped me a lot with loss of appetite. Also liquid food like smoothies I highly recommend, idk if it's just me but it's much easier for me to drink something than to chew and eat something when I'm medicated.

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u/ThisTimeJust30rock Jun 29 '22

Fuck. I hate that I did this. I fought against.my child getting stimulants for a year and a half. I didn't want him to. In fact, I didn't listen until we took my son to a pediatric neuropsychologist who explained it to me.

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u/Life-Ad1409 'MURICA Jun 29 '22

I kind of understand with ADHD as from the outside it looks like a lazy person

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u/ThisTimeJust30rock Jun 29 '22

It just sort of looked like he refused to listen. And what made matters worse was while he did poorly in school from both a behavioral and academic standpoint, he excelled in math and science. I mean really way beyond where he should be. The pediatric neuropsychologist actually diagnosed him with both ADHD and ASD which surprised me. So I spent the next year being angry at myself bc deprived him of medication. I felt like the worst dad ever when he started taking them and his life almost immediately improved. Like I kept that from him. He could've been happy sooner.

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u/Fireplum Jun 29 '22

Don’t beat yourself up too badly, if you can. There is so so much misinformation circulating about ADHD alone, even among the the medical professionals who are supposed to diagnose and treat it. And lord help you if you’re a woman having it and exhibiting entirely different symptoms than the stereotypical hyper boy.

My entire childhood I talked too much, I seemed just lazy in general but did really well and was competitive in school. My mother had a nickname for me that stuck into adulthood even that came from a tv cartoon character that talked a lot. We grew up in eastern Germany and the wall didn’t fall until I was 8. My parents, and I, didn’t even know ADHD was a thing, let alone being able to look at me and think yep that girl needs medical help for having no motivation and talking like a waterfall. I don’t blame them one bit for not figuring that out.

I only had a hunch that I might not just be a useless lazy piece of crap that constantly fails in college and equivalent education tiers and disappoints everyone constantly like they’re paid for it in my early to mid thirties. I had heard of ADHD at that point but that didn’t seem me. I’m just lazy and unmotivated and binge eating like a piece of crap, get your crap together was my daily, always failing, mantra. And when I finally after too many masking panic attacks that made me feel like I was literally dying daily talked to a doctor and “researched” a bit on the internet if maybe I’m not doing all that by choice and how can I stop being a useless waste of space, I was eventually put into a room with a psychiatrist who listened to my life story basically and as I’m telling him all that stuff in order and how my life has been, things start to make sense in my brain. They all line up.

And then I got medicated and it has been such a big difference. Panic attacks I had my entire life at varying degrees that had ramped up to being utterly debilitating just vanished. I can hold down my job.

The pills aren’t magic and I still do most of the symptoms of ADHD almost daily. It takes work and for many people therapy and more coping and organization mechanisms to be truly functioning. But I’m not at work stocking a shelf as I feel like there are ants crawling under my arm and I cannot concentrate on the simplest tasks without needing to pull away because that random thought I just had or that problem that I need to call someone about that I’ve been mulling over since last night needs to be solved right now or I shut down. And that outfit I pick out in the morning better be perfect because otherwise I cannot leave the house even knowing I will be late.

You agreed to save your child from all of that. I never learned a lot of the coping skills or any strategies to deal with what is essentially the toddler in my brain who wants sugar and fun and impulse shopping all day and I’m 40 now, diagnosed at 38 finally. My entire life fell into place and when ADHD folks say “You eventually realize your entire personality is just ADHD.” they’re only at best half kidding. It controls everything about your life, depending on severity. There are so many different symptoms and behaviors big and incredibly small that come up constantly with ADHD folks online where I read that and think “get out of my head and life!

It’s debilitating and not fun and it looks from the outside as if you’re just a lazy slob that doesn’t want to achieve anything in life and just sit around in a bathrobe. Especially my dad and I clashed so much over this during my teenage years and early adulthood because he so desperately wanted me to do better and more with my life and I was internally suffering about why I couldn’t bring myself to do the simple tasks everyone else seemingly does effortlessly. It killed me very day.

You made the steps to help and can go from there and you are aware that your child needs help and isn’t innately just not applying themselves. That’s huge and it shift that you eventually listening to the doctors and allowed it to happen. Your child will thank you.

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u/----------_______--- Jun 29 '22

“I never personally experienced this problem, so if you are, it means it’s completely your fault.”

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u/Rouge_Apple Jun 29 '22

My parents piss me off enough, I didn't come here to be reminded of it.

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u/Proper_Story_3514 Jun 29 '22

More like dumb parents

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u/Hambone919 Jun 29 '22

These people texting on 2005 iPhones or what?

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u/whowasonCRACK2 Jun 29 '22

You can literally see the boxes where they covered up the original text in photoshop lmfao.

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u/IsThisMeta Jun 29 '22

Yeah it’s pretty bizarre and also odd that no one is really talking about it. There isn’t a single modern app that looks like this

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u/SnooGuavas3712 Jun 29 '22

If you say dumb shit like that about needed medication the state should be mandated to take your kids, you're obviously danger to their wellbeing

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u/ThumpyDumpkins Jun 29 '22

If you don't believe in reality, you are a danger to everyone.

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u/g00d_m4car0n1 Jun 29 '22

Dam what is this iPhone 1?

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u/TargetCrotch Jun 29 '22

iPhone 1 message generator

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u/Sivick314 Jun 29 '22

What in the Karen hell is this??

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u/skilriki Jun 29 '22 Silver

Someone using a poorly coded first gen iphone text generator in 2022

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u/ScyllaGeek Jun 29 '22

This image is ancient tbh, I've seen it reposted countless times over the years

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u/Illusive_Man Jun 29 '22

The font is also wrong and you can see the green/gray rectangles where the text was pasted in

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u/Jsl50xReturns Jun 29 '22

I’m surprised by how many people can’t see all the obvious signs. The incorrect spacing between messages, the hyper-pixelated message bubble corners with the actual text being higher quality (yet still slightly pixelated), the obvious rage-bait/sympathy-fishing situation in the messages. This is just a very old text-message-generator “conversation.” Nothing else.

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u/Pristine_Interview86 Jun 29 '22

I don't think this is a real conversation.

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u/vizbones Jun 29 '22

Gray bubble text person: Looks like you don't have a mind, so I guess it doesn't matter.

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u/mercyspace27 Jun 29 '22 edited Jun 29 '22

As someone with a piece of trash family member who actually would be open about their hardcore drug abuse, bullshit like this always gets on my nerves. To clarify: I mean people acting like taking needed, prescribed medication in front of others is the same as some junkie shooting up in front of people without a care in the world.

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u/righthandtypist Jun 29 '22

That poor kid will grow up with the thought that having to take medication makes you less than a human being.

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u/TripperAdvice Jun 29 '22

OP is yet another repost bot, created 2 years ago then activated 4 months ago to begin farming karma, then it went silent and kicked back into action today

They also had a comment removed here because it was a copy paste

Once they have enough they'll sell the account to shills and scammers to push ads or propaganda

Report OP

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u/littleblacksunshine Jun 29 '22

My best friend’s daughter is epileptic and people accuse her of making up her seizures. People are so fucking stupid.

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u/RiverDragon64 Jun 29 '22

People like this deserve all the hate, discontent, and derision they get. People like this told my bi-polar son he needed jezus, not meds. They almost caused him to have a psychotic episode after weeks of almost never taking meds unless we watched. I wanted to shoot them.

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u/ChronicleOfBinkers Jun 29 '22

Yeah how dare they do an involuntary action in front of their children. So rude honestly

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u/Nottodayreddit1949 Jun 29 '22

And that person would be removed from my life in everyway that I had control over.

That's an incredibly toxic and hateful way to interact with someone with a medical condition.

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u/Impressive-Tip-903 Jun 29 '22

This seems made up, but if it isn't this is objectively stupid.

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u/WillowTreeBark Jun 29 '22

I got diagnosed with epilepsy during the lockdown randomly at 30 years old.

It is fucking awful and I hate it. I forgot ONE time to take my evening meds, and I had overnight seizures.

I learnt the hard way, and never again will I forget.

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u/dibromoindigo Jun 29 '22

Being this stupid cause her mind doesn't matter.

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u/dorkmania Jun 29 '22

Completely agree. By the way have you heard of the medicinal properties of this inhalable gas called Ox-ē-jun, it's produced by these widely placed bio-engines called puh-lā-ñtz (I think it's a conspiracy by the EPA). To give up this crutch you need to just stop breathing and will yourself into feeling healthy. After all, being well is just mind over matter.

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u/madaboutmaps Jun 29 '22

Thing is, if you dont take yout meds and get an attaque (spelling?) you will be berated for traumatizing kids.

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