r/freefolk • u/IttHertzWhenIP • 16d ago
Should have cast it into the fire All the Chickens
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u/RapsFanMike 16d ago
Will forever read this meme in Galadriels voice
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u/RuedigerBitte 16d ago
I will never understand how people hate on 8, but not on 7. Or when they hate on 6-8, but not on 5. At least be consistent.
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u/thekingofbeans42 15d ago
They're not the same though. The bullshit in 7 and 8 are so much worse than what we saw in 5 and 6.
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u/ABoyIsNo1 15d ago
I think that was his point, how people will talk about season 8 being really bad but not bringing up season 7, and people bringing up season 6’s issues but not brining up season 5.
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u/Tidwell- 15d ago
We believed 7 was at least setting up something huge. So at the time it didn't feel as bad.
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u/skeetsauce 15d ago
I remember rewatching S7 in anticipation for S8 and thinking, "this isn't as good as I remember it being." And then when S8 came on and Tyrion's big smart joke was "because you have no cock" Jim wink to the camera and I knew S8 was gonna be bad.
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u/Daztur 15d ago
That doesn't make any sense though. How could a horrible season about the whole cast juggling idiot balls set up anything good?
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u/hgyt7382 15d ago
Hindsight is 20/20 afterall.
Without knowing what was coming, who's to say it doesn't make any sense?
Oh, Arya spent a whole season to become a Faceless man? Surely, she'll explain some of what that actually means, since I'm confused now, and it will probably be important for something later on...
Oh, Bran spent a whole season to become a clairvoyant, all-seeing tree? Surely, he'll explain some of that later on, since I'm confused now, and it will probably be important for something later on...
...but then...yeah...nothing.
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u/HBag 15d ago
Yeah, people tend to look at what is salvageable from each season like if the season got blown up and it's episodes/scenes were scattered everywhere, what would you save?
Season 1 to 4, pretty much all of it. Season 5 a bit less. Season 6 a little bit less. 7 leave that fucker to bleed out. 8 take a shit on it and hide all the bandages.
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u/AmineB34 16d ago
Exactly, season 7 was as bad as season 8 in my opinion
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u/RuedigerBitte 16d ago
Worse in my opinion. 8 at least started with two good episodes. 7 was a pointless filler season that soley existed to delay Dany from taking the throne. Even though Tyrion knew a secret passageway into the Red Keep the entire time. And don't even get me started on the ridiculous "catch a wight" plot line. Only thing that saved season 7 was that people gave it the benefit of fhe doubt because it ended with the wights marching down on Westeros, which promised an epic next season. But considering that season 8 sucked, 7 is worse is retrospective.
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u/AmineB34 16d ago
Couldn't agree more, all the horrible shit we've seen in S8 was started by S7, there was still room to fix the issues after S6 but the opportunity was thrown out the window
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u/Secure-Containment-1 15d ago
IDK, I kinda liked Cersei finally getting revenge for losing her daughter, albeit in a pretty fucked way.
Even then, that still felt kinda rushed.
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u/Alexander_Crowe 15d ago
They atleast have the attack on the goldtrain and a few decent scenes of dialogue "tell Cercei" f.e.
Season 8 only had cock jokes and bad action. Even cleganebowl was a dissappointment
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u/First-Of-His-Name 15d ago
7 had the field of fire at least. I liked having a battle where you're genuinely not sure who to root for
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u/theCANCERbat 15d ago
In your opinion. I thoroughly enjoyed the show up until the final 3 or 4 episodes.
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u/Tsobaphomet 15d ago
Season 7 was trash, but it was edible trash. Like some food scraps that weren't totally moldy yet.
Season 8 was like a pile of rotten garbage that could knock you out with the scent alone.
Both of them are weirdly separated from the rest of the series too. 7 was designed just to set up the end for season 8. It wasn't an actual progression of the story at all unlike every previous season. So like if people want them to remake S8, they would also need to remake S7.
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u/Darth_Rubi 15d ago
I'm here thinking even seasons 2-4 showed a lot of cracks with change for the sake of change, although still great tv
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u/FreshDiamond 15d ago
Season 7 was bad, I actually think worse than season 8. I don’t have a problem at all with dany going mad queen. I think that was always supposed to happen and it seems very apparent in the books to me. The problem was that the road they took to get her there was horrendous and rushed. It Started in season 7 maybe even 6. I love season 6 but a lot of the depth was lost by that point
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u/BlueYoshi1990 15d ago
8 is by far the worst. 7 is awful but has a few good moments. 5-6 are still pretty good, just a step down.
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u/necrolich66 16d ago
Because you guys were warned I just feel like I must.
Season 7 was already shit, just not the kind that has been consummated and puked out again like 8 was. 5 and 6 were entertaining and badly done but still watchable.
GoT was only great from S1 to S4
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u/Nimex_ 16d ago
Gods, the writing was strong then! Season 5 and 6 had some very good episodes and moments, like Hardhome and Dany departing for Westeros, but it was also when the details started being ignored. Travel distances, for example. I still hope beyond hope that we'll get the last two books in some form someday, even if it's GGRM's unfinished work. I want to know how he does things like the battle of Winterfell, the battle of Mereen and the deaths of Barristan Selmy and Stannis the Mannis.
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u/necrolich66 16d ago
Yeah sadly I have already come to the conclusion that it is possible that G.R.R. Martin could die before the release of WoW and very likely before the last book. It would not surprise me if it was the case, hopefully they could Silmarillion the notes that Martin has made.
And one day remake the show. Heck D&D did a great job as long as it was already written for them. Only once they had to write themselves or fill in huge gaps left that they butchered what is to this day one of the greatest shows ever.
To this day the lure to watch the 4 first seasons follow me everywhere, but the bitter taste of the later seasons make it rot in my mouth.
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u/Nimex_ 15d ago
I would be surprised if he ever releases WoW before dying. The Silmarillion treatment sounds good to my ears
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u/necrolich66 15d ago
But no-one dares to be the dick to ask him to make his grand scheme of things written before he croacks.
Heck the guy is already sick of hearing ppl talk about him dying, and I get that. But as fans of his work ppl tend to focus on the work and not the writer and seeing his age and shape it is a good assumption to think a great work of literature could be lost.
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u/Empyrean_MX_Prime 14d ago
Frankly it wouldn't matter if he was 20 years younger. Something has clearly gone horribly wrong with the writing process. More time won't help him.
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u/necrolich66 14d ago
I haven't found his writing to be worse of to be honest. Or do you mean that he'd just squander the extra time by rewriting, deleting and dicking around?
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u/Empyrean_MX_Prime 13d ago
Basically the latter. 10 years for one book is an astonishing amount of time, even for a slow perfectionist author writing their magnum opus. This comes after ADWD which itself took an extraordinary amount of time. Something seems to be holding George back, and it's not a lack of time.
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u/IDonnu4Real HotPie 15d ago
Most moments in 5-6 were mediocre at best, with the occasional awesome moment. 1-4 were amazing, occasionaly great, often awesome. 7 was meh, with like one or two WOW moments. 8 was just….
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u/TheHappyMask93 No one 15d ago
What does Bobby b think of Galadriel?
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u/bobby-b-bot Robert Baratheon 15d ago
SOON ENOUGH, THAT CHILD WILL SPREAD HER LEGS AND START BREEDING!
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u/Kolyma11 16d ago
I feel like 7 and 8 are horrible and 5 and 6 were horrible with some great parts. Let's just remember the Gendry marathon run, Aryas post stab Parkour run, the teleporting armies and the "bad pussy" storyline.
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u/BigBangZebraMan 14d ago
I feel like season 7 is where it actually got bad, at least seasons 5-6 made some sense, but in season 7 they went "HAHA GENDRY GETS BIG WARHAMMER"
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u/Kolyma11 14d ago edited 14d ago
Some of it made sense, but a lot of it didn't make any sense at all. Like Aryas surviving multiple stab Wounds, Jamies entire Dorne plot or the sand snakes murdering House Martell to avenge house Martell, Littlefinger giving Sansa to the Boltons, Sansa not telling Jon about the Vale army, the Vale army passing the previously unpassable Neck and traveling through the massive North without anyone noticing, the butchering of the entire Stannis storyline, Ramsay Killing his own father plus two Freys without any consequences. There is so much wrong that it piles up and messes with what's good or even great in those seasons.
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u/BigBangZebraMan 14d ago
But if you think about the big strokes it's fiiiinee. When watching you get a feeling that Littlefingers intentions could be explained later, Arya was ridiculous but hey the writers make mistakes, the battle of the bastards was fun so who caarreeessss, etc etc.
It could be fixed as long as the ending was good. But nah
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u/Kolyma11 14d ago
I get that, I guess it just depends on the person. I like eason 5 and 6 were fun in the same way Fast & Furious are fun, don't think about it too much just enjoy it. Which isn't bad necessarily and I definitely enjoyed a lot of it, but it wasn't what we GOT was about.
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u/WideEyedJackal 16d ago
Get ready for the wave of “it’s been bad since season x” coming your way
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u/hippygremlin 16d ago
You mean get ready for the truth?
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u/mymumkinkshamesme 16d ago
Right?!
Claiming S8 was the only bad season is just as horrible a take as saying it was a good season
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u/hippygremlin 16d ago
I couldn't agree more! The writing was on the wall as early as season 5, it was just harder to tell at that point unless you'd already read the books.
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u/ABoyIsNo1 15d ago
Sure, but seasons 5 and 6 were still miles better than seasons 7 and 8. 5 and 6 had some terrible storylines and others that were poorly executed, but they also had some of the best, most powerful episodes and scenes in the show. The peaks in 7 and 8 were so much lower, and the lows were more nonsensical and drawn out.
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u/Lebigmacca 15d ago
For book readers the writing started getting questionable in season 2 with the changes to Jon and Dany’s story and turning Jeyne Westerling into Talisa. It wasn’t nearly as bad as the changes in season 5 though. Season 3 picked things up quality and faithfulness wise but season 4 was really only good because of how great the second half of A Storm of Swords is. A lot of it is filler or straight up bad like shirtless Ramsay or grey worm creepily starring at Missandei while she’s bathing
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u/hippygremlin 14d ago
You're not wrong, I forget how awful switching Jeyne for Talisa was sometimes. I think I was just more forgiving of it back then; I've watched a lot of things based on books that I've read so I'm used to little changes being made here and there, so it didn't bother me as much early on when it was just the odd thing. Plus the whole Dorne fiasco really angered me, so I tend to see that as the start of the downward spiral. But everything you said is spot on.
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u/BigBangZebraMan 14d ago
IT'S BEEN BAD SINCE SEASON 2 THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL SINCE THEN THE WHOLE THING LACKED DIRECTION ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN BAD SINCE SEASON 1 EPISODE 1 TO BE HONEST THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL AND THEY BUTCHERED THE WHOLE BOOK WHICH WASN'T ACTUALLY GOOD IN THE FIRST PLACE ACTUALLY I DON'T EVEN LIKE GOT
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u/BlueYoshi1990 15d ago
Seven is being generous
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u/IttHertzWhenIP 15d ago
I didn't make this i saw it on /r/Lotrmemes
but given the format you have to give seasons 6+ more credit than they deserve
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u/headcheese1 15d ago
I know season 7 wasn’t that good but it wasn’t as bad as 8, and I don’t even think 8 was as horrible as most, but that’s not why I’m here. I just wanted to say GREAT MEME. Kudos to the creator
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u/MrAshh "She's mah kween" 15d ago
Season 7 was shit, I hated it and got my friends mad at me for pointing out how inconsistent and stupid it was. I said none of this makes any sense and the decisions are so stupid and rushed they won't be able to give this show any decent closure in the remaining 13 episodes. I was right. No one in my group of friends speaks about GoT anymore.
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u/DanielSophoran 15d ago
I honestly feel like im stuck in a time loop everytime this gets reposted.
Its always the exact same comments saying “no its been shit since x season” and people having the exact same discussions about it.
Yes we get it
Seasons 7 and 8 were shit
5 and 6 were meh with good moments
1-4 are incredible
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u/_friendlyfoe_ 15d ago
In fires of Mount HBO, the Dark Lords D&D forged, in secret, a master bait to control all others. And into this season they poured cruelty, malice, and will to dominate all happiness. One season to ruin them all.
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u/Bluedogpinkcat 15d ago
Bobby B what do you think about season 8 and D and D?
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u/bobby-b-bot Robert Baratheon 15d ago
WE'RE TELLING WAR STORIES! WHO WAS YOUR FIRST KILL, NOT COUNTING OLD MEN?
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u/Bluedogpinkcat 15d ago
Bobby B My heart was broken by the short night we could not see.
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u/bobby-b-bot Robert Baratheon 15d ago
SHE SHOULD BE ON A HILL SOMEWHERE WITH THE SUN AND THE CLOUDS ABOVE HER!
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u/RajaRajaC 15d ago
S5 saw the greatest knight of all time killed for no plot driving reason or anything.
S5 was the Dorne plot, the bad pussay line is also from this season.
The writing was on the wall