r/gaming • u/Zansacu • 10d ago
Why the hell is Snake's bandana fused with his forehead? I thought it's fake when I first saw it here because of this...
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u/blue_13 10d ago edited 10d ago
How tight does that thing have to be in order to take on the contours of his facial patterns?
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u/Four_Skyn_Tim 10d ago
It's actually face paint, but he stapled streamers on the back of his head as well
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u/beaverbait 10d ago
Super advanced nanopaint streamers.
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u/J5893 10d ago
Nanopaint, son.
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u/BarrySandwich24 10d ago
I'm making the mother of all omelets here Jack! Can't fret over every egg!
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u/btbedway 10d ago
Hah! You should see Clooney’s Bat Suit… How cold does the bat cave need to be to… you know….
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u/phezhead 10d ago
I have to assume George R.R. Martin was thinking this when he wrote the line "as useless as nipples on a breastplate"
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u/blue_13 10d ago
Please don't remind me.... haha
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u/joecarter93 10d ago
26 years later and I still remember seeing the close up of the bat-nips and laughing out loud in the theatre.
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u/TomCruiseddit 10d ago
It'd need to be tight but also very grippy... Uh...
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u/A1sauc3d 10d ago
I don’t know why everyone is so confused about this. Do you not super glue your elastic bandana to your head? I superglue all my elastic clothes directly to my skin so those sexy wrinkles can shine right through 🤤
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u/random20222202modnar 10d ago
I’m taking notes, I like your style slick!
Your pretty good!
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u/DeadWrangler 10d ago
Nah, it isn't that it's that tight, haha.
His frown is just that discerning. Poor guys been frowning and squinting for years. Just mountains and valleys of wrinkled brow under there.
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u/Sword-of-Malkav 10d ago
His bandana is made of the same material recently repurposed to make those leggings that actually go INSIDE a girl's ass.
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u/Cloudsbursting 9d ago
They’d go inside a guy’s ass crack too. I mean, I’ve never seen it, but it’s theoretically possible.
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u/BoraxTheBarbarian 10d ago
There are three plates in the bandana and each converge to make the pattern above his nose.
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u/Machoopi 10d ago
This would be 100% something said in game if you threw in about 5 acronyms and referenced the cold war.
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u/Dubbs09 10d ago
In a 22 minute cutscene
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u/LePopeUrban 10d ago
Nah 22 minute codec call that happens directly after saving
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u/Redmangc1 10d ago
Oh God i cannot wait for the MGS4 remake with its 2 hour cutscene with a save point in between. I need to see that shit in 16k
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u/LNViber 10d ago
I was defending that shit against my friends last night. One of them was talking about how they dont play video games for 30 minute unskippable cutscene. I corrected him that it's actually a movie with a load screen in the middle of it. That when you choose to play a MGS game you are willingly signing up for an experience unlike any other game and at the 4th installment a 2 hour cutscene should be one of the more palatable weird things for the game to do.
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u/kevmaster200 10d ago
I would load up that final save occasionally specifically when I wanted to watch a movie. I believe it was right before the microwave hallway.
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u/LNViber 10d ago
I wish I had a PS3 so I could do the same. I still have my playstation vita and I keep it charged for the sole purpose of playing MGS3 again. Couldnt tell you how many times I beat that on the vita alone. I also have it for 3ds and ps2. These movie games are just to much damn fun. Also so insanely wonderfully convoluted that if anyone says they understood it from one play through I know they are either a compulsive liar or so dumb they think their smart.
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u/MyStationIsAbandoned 10d ago
you can emulate PS3 easily now. if you still have a copy of the game you can rip the iso for the disk and play it that way. all 100% legit and legal. Sony probably doesn't like it. but sony also wont make their consoles backward compatible or put emulators in their consoles...so...
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u/kevmaster200 10d ago
I still got my old mgs4 bundle PS3. Last model that came with PS2 backwards compatibility. I honestly think I've misplaced mgs4 tho...
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u/CharityDiary 10d ago
Snake: "So, what you're saying is this isn't just an ordinary bandanna?"
Major: "Not in the least, Snake. It's been intricately woven with what we call 'nano-fibers'. These fibers are microscopic, almost undetectable. They're designed to transmit crucial information."
Snake: "How does it do that? It's just a piece of cloth, isn't it?"
Major: "In simple terms, yes. But in reality, it's a conduit. It interfaces directly with your cranial fluid, using it as an amplifier to send information to a designated relay point."
Snake: "My cranial fluid... as an amplifier? You're pulling my leg, Major."
Major: "This is DARPA tech, Snake. It's no joke. The science might be hard to grasp, but think back to the Cold War... We had to adapt, improvise, innovate. That's just what we're doing here."
Snake: "So, I'm wearing this thing, and it's sending signals through my skull. How does it stay connected?"
Major: "Good question. That's where the grip compound comes into play. It ensures what we call a 'derma-lectric' connection. It creates a bridge, a conduit, between the bandanna and your skin."
Snake: "A 'derma-lectric' connection... Sounds complicated."
Major: "It might sound that way, but this is necessary, Snake. This connection, this tech - it's all designed to keep you safe."
Cut to Sigint at his terminal, data streaming across multiple monitors.
Sigint: "Snake, from my end, I receive a constant feed of data from you. Everything from your vital signs to your delta brain waves."
Snake: "My...delta brain waves?"
Sigint: "They're the slowest kind of brain wave, typically associated with deep dreamless sleep. They might reveal crucial information under stress or combat. Consider it an extra layer of security for you, Snake."
Snake: "So all of this... the nano-fibers, the 'derma-lectric' connection... it's all so I can save my game to the PS2 8MB Memory Card™?"
Major: "Exactly, Snake. A steady stream of data, all safely stored away. You've got the full support of Sigint and myself. Remember, we're all in this together."
Cutscene ends.
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u/FistfulDeDolares 10d ago
Bravo. Got the mannerisms right and everything. When I read that I heard Snake and the Major’s voices.
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u/RawSac 10d ago
I believe DARPA was called ARPA back then and also "think back to the cold war" doesn't make sense(it is set in the cold-war era) . Everything else feels like it was ripped straight from the script tho.
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u/Vigilante8841 10d ago
If memory serves, MGS3 does call DARPA by its modern name. Granted, this game also has CalorieMates, which weren't produced until the 80s, and the Ocelot Paradox game over screen also suggests MGS3 is one of the VR sims Raiden went through prior to the Big Shell Incident (a popular theory I subscribe to). This would also explain the "Think back to the Cold War" line, as Raiden could possibly be talking to Campbell and a FOXHOUND technician while in a simulated briefing room, before he's fully gotten into the character of Naked Snake.
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u/ShruteFarms4L 10d ago
So, there is something called nano-fibers that are woven into the bandanna that transmit information to a relay point using Snake's CF, or cranial fluid as an amplifier. A grip compound, commonly known as GC is used to ensure a sufficient DLC ...thats short for derma-lectric connection for simple folks. Sigint and Major have a terminal that receives a steady stream of data from Snake's body and also his DBW, short for, delta brain waves. This is all necessary so you can save your game to the PS2 8MB Memory Card™.This reminds me of my days during the cold war, such a solemn time in my life.
How's that?
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u/calex-xor 10d ago •
Sigint - Hey Snake! What's up?
Snake - Sigint, why is the bandana so tight? I fell like my head is going to pop off any minute now.
Sigint - Oh damn, I guess we must have forgotten to mention that. See it is because of the nanofibers.
Snake - Nanofibers? What are those?
Sigint - The future Snake! Tiny, almost imperceptible threads woven into the bandanna that transmit information from your head to a relay point using your cranial fluid as an amplifier. A grip compound is used to ensure a sufficient derma-lectric connection which is why it's so tight.
Snake - So it reads my thoughts?
Sigint - Nothing so fancy! I don't think that's even possible before a few more generations. No, what it does is send a steady stream of your data, which includes your stamina, health, inventory and what not to a terminal on our end whenever you reach specific parts of your mission.
Snake - So it saves my data.
Sigint - Yeah! You got it man!
Snake - But I can already use Para-Medic for that.
Sigint - Ah now see, your saves with Para-medic are manual, that is unless you decide to save on your end, no saves will be recorded. However, this is automatic saving, that regularly backs up your data in case there's some issue with the manual saves.
Snake - Hmm, automatic...
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u/justxkyle PC 10d ago
Maybe it's just the forehead part of Batman's cowl.
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u/Zansacu 10d ago
Now I can't unsee it
Noooo
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u/justxkyle PC 10d ago
Tell me a MGS x Batman cross over wouldn't be something wild though
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u/CT-80085 10d ago
Did your parents never warn you of the dangers of wearing a headband for too long?
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u/Shufflepants 10d ago
The only answer MGS has ever required: nanomachines.
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u/Randomhuman52 10d ago
Nanomachines hadn’t been invented yet. You’ve created a time paradox!
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u/Still-Pattern-6384 10d ago
It's an iconic touch which makes no sense, but it's badass enough
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u/Phoeptar PlayStation 10d ago
Right! It’s always looked this ridiculous, but that’s part of its charm.
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u/BrandoCalrissian1995 10d ago
That sums up metal gear solid lol. Shits always been ridiculous.
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u/briareus08 10d ago
Always feels like we’re playing something that someone took super seriously, and no one’s brave enough to tell them we’re all laughing behind their backs.
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u/herrcollin 10d ago
If Hideo were still here we'd all just be like "Yeah, checks out."
If anything I'm surprised we didn't get a shot of Snakes well-toned ass
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u/Happy-Engineer 10d ago
They probably tried a version with a flat bandana but thought it looked lame.
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u/Randomhuman52 10d ago
MGSV did that.
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u/looklook876 10d ago
And it looks super lame
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u/Randomhuman52 10d ago
That’s because it’s supposed to be a repaired version of the bandanna. In the last trailer for MGSV they had a sequence that had MGS3 Naked Snake and his bandanna was all wrinkled.
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u/FreakSlayer 10d ago
Yeah, I swear it'll be much worse without it. Even cosplayers have to add that to their costumes.
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u/carnivalmatey 10d ago
It makes sense because they want to convey his facial expression better but need the headband on. You wouldn’t think of it unless you were the one making it
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u/G71TCHT21CK 10d ago
Theres actually a microscopic black hole on the top of his nose thats gradually sucking his entire face in
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u/slappada-bass 10d ago
it was like this in the original. just not as pronounced. found it a bit strange they really accentuated it. i think they need to dial it back down to like a 3, it's an 8 now. any higher it would be his face.
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u/papabeard88 10d ago
I was wondering about this bandana and why no one was talking about it. Then I looked it up and it's been a thing from the start. I've never played the games so I have no idea what's even going on with it though.
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u/Trap-Chan 10d ago
Looks exactly like MGS4 Old Snakes Bandana rather than The Bosses bandana.
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u/Tucos_revolver 10d ago
And assuming the trailer was the intro(the little island with the Crocs was kinda there?) He shouldn't even have it yet.
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u/b_ootay_ful 9d ago
Trailer isn't ingame footage.
Anyway, you can revisit that same area by backtracking when you return.
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u/Tucos_revolver 9d ago
I don't think you can backtrack from mgs4 to 3 though
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u/b_ootay_ful 9d ago
They are entirely different people.
MGS3 is Big Boss
MGS1/2/4 is Solid Snake, his clone.
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u/Ok_Firefighter1293 10d ago
I imagine an art director said 'he doesn't look angry/determined enough' and they were added in, physics be damned. That's the only reason I can think for this to happen.
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u/FIYREBEARD 10d ago
🙄 Because it looks cool. Can't cover up that griseled war forehead. How else are we to know he means business?
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u/ThriceDamnedSandwich 10d ago
It's a flex.
If any normal person had something like that tied that tight to their head, they'd lose all blood to the brain. His sheer awesome-levels both resist its deadly tension, and intensify his intimidation through such impossible contours.
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u/hokagenaruto 10d ago
there have been so many official artwork from these games where it looks like that. don't pretend to have a problem with it now
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u/beaverbait 10d ago
New headband metal gear variant confirmed. At least they brought David Hayter back.
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u/Whatifisaid- 10d ago
It’s been like that in like every MGS game I can think of, if the fidelity of the models was too low, look at the official concept art, it’s drawn like that as well. It’s a stylized look, the TMNT bandanas are like that also.
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u/LordPentolino PC 10d ago
an user posted about it earlier today and now i cant stop laughing every time i see that thing, cant unsee it 🤣
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u/Twerkstorm 10d ago
I think you’re onto something about it being fake. In fact now that I really look at it, I think the entire image may be cgi.
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u/pedanticGamerBattler 10d ago
When you tie it to hard it fuses with your head. Or snakes forehead is just that full of muscles dont know which is more likely
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u/DontLook_Weirdo 10d ago
I mean...he sneaks around in a box. Emotions on his bandana don't seem that ridiculous compared to it all.
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u/bfhurricane 10d ago
This is also a game where Snake wears a mask of a subordinate bad guy that even fools the main antagonist until he feels his balls.
Given the absurdity of these games I can overlook artistic designs like the bandana lol.
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u/Twikkie522 10d ago
It was like that as early as MGS 4. At least, that's the first time I noticed this detail.
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u/wesleypipes5011 10d ago
People complained that the mgsv bandana was so bulky for years, to the point it was a popular mod. Now we’ll have people complain it’s too form fitting and modding it thick
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u/ZenEvadoni 10d ago
On a related note, it heartens me to see Metal Gear Solid back on the forefront of conversations in the gaming sphere again. Thinking of the players who got into the series through V witnessing the zany, ridiculous shit the less recent titles have fills me with joy.
Listening to The Boss lecturing Snake for running around the jungle naked, hearing Snake have an orgasm over a custom 1911, witnessing the origins of "You're pretty good", hearing Ocelot do that meow to call over his posse, having Para-medic be exasperated at Snake for being asked how a scorpion would taste... Ahh, good times. And newcomers will get to experience them, too.
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u/trevordeal 10d ago
Only took you 20 years to notice. It has been like that since PS2. It’s a way to make him more expressive. Like how Deadpool’s mask works.
If that is what throws you off and it’s not the floating BDSM wizard that controls your game, then I don’t know what to tell you.
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u/Whomperss 10d ago
That was the first thought that came into my head lmao. Excited for the remake but this picture does make me chuckle.
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u/MoistChord 10d ago
Bro, you ever sweat a waterfall while having these on? It happens, trust a bald dude that sweats like a mother F
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u/WheelMan34 10d ago
Do you know how long he’s been wearing that? An amount of time. Enough time to fuse to his skin
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u/Swordbreaker925 10d ago
It isn’t… it’s tight and judging by the dirt on his face it’s probably stuck to his forehead from sweat. Wouldn’t be impossible for it to scrunch up as he furrows his brow
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u/ComfortableAmount993 10d ago
It's dirty and soaked with sweat and who knows what any cloth will stick like that
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u/Flemball47 10d ago
Give the guy a break it's humid as shit in that jungle, you should see his underwear.
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u/Broseph_Bobby 10d ago
Just sayin.
But if you wear a bandana in the jungle for a few days and it will kind of fuse with your forehead.
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u/Replicant_06 10d ago
Because tight fabric tends to conform to a person's body when wet.
The dude is literally in a humid jungle swamp, sweating and trudging through water, mud, etc.
So no shit his Bandana is sticking to his forehead. Like have you ever seen someone wear a wet t-shirt?
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u/Brave-Entrance-5193 10d ago
The reason his bandana is so tight on his head is because at the end he will take it off to reveal that the entire game was actually just one giant illusion brought on from blood pooling on his brain. MARK MY WORDS
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u/Training_Rough2756 10d ago
Snake's bandana is his source of power. Infinite ammo, legendary stealth, and a hairdo that never quits.
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u/fawzay 10d ago
lol the game where you could beat a sniper boss by doing nothing
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u/StunningTemporary670 10d ago
IDC about he art of this shit, I just hope it's as optimized as MGSV and they won't do a super high tech photo realistic graphics that requires NASA's PC's. MGSV is already graphically stunning even at its age and can run on toasters really smooth.
My iGPU can run that game on Med-High settings. I hope I can say the same on this one.
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u/michaelshreds 10d ago
Maybe it’s really tight and silk. It does flow really well in the wind. Along with his mullet. Also that’s big boss…… just sayin lol
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u/SuomenVasara PlayStation 10d ago
Get ready. This is going to be the shittiest cashgrab of the generation. The classic collection only exists to ease the backlash for how rough this will be.
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u/Bunktavious 10d ago
This is like every time I see an AI portrait of a girl in a tight catsuit. The poster has spent hours touching up every little detail, correcting all the faults - and then fails to notice that the catsuit plunges into and confirms with the girl's bellybutton.
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u/MutantOctopus 10d ago
The real answer is just that it's an unrealistic emphasis for the sake of character design. Having those contours allows the expression to be made clearer and is believable "enough" as long as you don't think too much about it. MGS might not be a "cartoon" series per se but that doesn't mean a little suspension of disbelief can't be used to touch up a character's features so they read better.
Plus TBH this is a series where a guy runs on water and throws a missile back at the thing attacking him, and where a grafted arm taking over the host's consciousness with that of its original owner is a believable plot point. Honestly this is probably one of the most realistic things in the series.
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u/JadedJackal671 10d ago
Coming to PS5
Me and my trusty PS4 since Highschool.
Me: Looks like the time has come buddy, you served me well...
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u/CaptainAgreeable3824 10d ago
If you're an OG fan then you'll know the bandana has been like this for a very long time.
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u/Anderjak 10d ago
it has to do with Yoji Shinkawa's art
Shinkawa is a long-time collaborator with Kojima, having worked on Metal Gear Solid, Zone of the Enders, and, most recently, Death Stranding
he has an extremely striking style that the MGS franchise had been known for up to 3/4, and the way he renders the bandanna on Snake is with these deep, thick lines on the forehead
and, yes, it looks strange when you try to do a literal translation to a more realistic style of rendering like this
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u/danielzboy 9d ago
It could be the same reason why Jotaro Joestar’s hair fuses with his cap: It just looks badass. MGS Art Director Yoji Shinkawa likes to draw Snake like this with the angry brows showing through the bandana.
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u/ScroteCheese 9d ago
That's why he's so grumpy all the time. Ever worn a bandana or hat that was too tight? It gets uncomfortable really quickly
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u/PhoenixTineldyer 10d ago
Infinite ammo