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Gollum.

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u/Uncle___Marty 9d ago

I'm not playing a game where it looks like everything is covered in Chicken fat.

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u/Looter629 9d ago

Same, on the other hand I do play games while covered in chicken fat.

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u/anonymous_beaver_ 9d ago

How you doin?

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u/Looter629 9d ago edited 9d ago

My opened wounds have been better.

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u/EntertainmentReady48 9d ago

KFC console when?

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u/jedi-son 9d ago

Man Popeyes is underrated. We were a KFC house growing up but I'm starting to see the light.

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u/Looter629 9d ago

2 lbs KFC (an even number of thighs and breasts).

Use a spoon to strip the skin and breading/batter from the meat. As you spoon the skin off the meat try your best to catch the juices and place them to the side in a measuring cup.

Place the skinned chicken into a bowl and cover. Refrigerate for 30 minutes for best results.

While your meat is cooling, use 1.3 tsp of the fat juices that you placed aside as a lubricant and masturbate vigorously.

Remove the skinned chicken from the refrigerator and throw it out.

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u/jedi-son 9d ago

That was a roller coaster

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u/rumblesnort 8d ago

This guy chickens

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u/SunChipMan 9d ago

You should try playing the greasy games too then. Makes it more immersive.

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u/EquivalentChoice5733 9d ago

Well now I'm sold, I love thicc chickens.

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u/MrCooper2012 PC 9d ago

Thiccens

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u/RandomNisscity 8d ago

Found the greasy strangler

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u/Dangthing 9d ago

Gollum is the game equivalent of the Waste of Skin class from Bloodborne.

"You are nothing. Talentless. You shouldn't have been born."

It only WISHES it were as good as Redfall is and Redfall is BAD.

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u/dmrukifellth 9d ago

I’ve seen some good mobile game commercials. This looks like mobile game.

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u/DdCno1 8d ago

There are far better-looking mobile games these days. Alien Isolation has been ported to iOS and Android, for example.

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u/mattheimlich 9d ago

The real madness is in the praise the Gollum character design got from Eurogamer. As someone who was a CG/VFX artist for many years, I have to know what drugs the Eurogamer staff are on.

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u/ShastaMcLurky 9d ago

The drug is called “paid advertising”

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u/mattheimlich 9d ago edited 9d ago

You don't get paid to advertise and then give it a 1-star review

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u/NewDamage31 9d ago

The best drug of all

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u/IchorMortis 9d ago

You say that like that isn't the entire point of eurogamer as a business entity

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u/volkanine 9d ago

Shadow did more than try. It was a kickass game and the only time since Assassins Creed 2 that I enjoyed that kinda gameplay.

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u/Ed_Harris_is_God 9d ago

They might be referring specifically to the Gollum model in Shadow.

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u/SwegMiliband 9d ago

It honestly looks more like dobby than gollum.

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u/KingoftheHill1987 9d ago

Forspoken, Redfall, Gollum in 6 months of each other.

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u/zose2 9d ago

I think forespoken was definitely disappointing but it's certainly wasn't as bad as Redfall and Gollum. It was more so just mediocre. There weren't any major issues with performance or gameplay like Redfall and Gollum... I will say though it is pretty bad to see each controversial title getting worse then the last this year... If this trend continues what comes after Gollum is gonna be wild lol

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u/toobjunkey 9d ago

Forespoken wasn't as bad as redfall wasn't as bad as gollum. You're right that it's gonna be wild if things keep going on this trajectory lmao

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u/IncomeStraight8501 9d ago

Honestly I'd consider Forspoken the worst game this year only because it killed the studio working on it.

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u/VanguardXI 9d ago

That wasn’t because it was a terrible game, though. It received mediocre reviews and sold poorly and reportedly didn’t recoup it’s 100 million dollar budget.

Plenty of mediocre games sell well and plenty of good games don’t meet revenue targets.

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u/Purple10tacle 9d ago edited 9d ago

Redfall and Gollum made Forspoken look like a masterpiece, though.

Sure, Forespoken was released half-baked, but that's almost par for the course these days. And its greatest sin was, that it was painfully mediocre.

However, the worst things have been patched, and at least it did innovate a little and did a bunch of core gameplay elements really well. If you're able to tolerate the dull open world and the annoying banter (which a recent patch dialed down significantly), it's a fun enough game.

Redfall and Gollum are just fundamentally flawed at their core, no amount of polishing will turn them even into mediocre games.

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u/asyrin25 9d ago

But also Dead Space Remake, Resident Evil 4, Like a Dragon: Ishin!, and Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.

There's always good and bad games. We're just drowning in media that makes every one a big deal.

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u/DaleGribble312 9d ago

There are significantly more games being released in signifantly poorer states though.

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u/KlausGamingShow 9d ago

probably because

There are significantly more games being released

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u/Officialquevo 9d ago

Dead island 2 ! Started my 3 character and got 0 bugs and it run like a dream

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u/Morgoths_Ring 9d ago

Is Ishin! really that good? On par with RE4 and TotK? I heard it was underwhelming and a tad bit disappointing compared to PS3 OG.

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u/batatolino 9d ago

2023 gonna be the year

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u/Aska09 9d ago

Hey, at least we got Tears of the Kingdom

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u/daffquick1990 9d ago

Atleast forspoken was playable and had some fun bits

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u/Wispeon 9d ago

for $70...

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u/SoggyCrew4669 9d ago

Yeah, standard full-size game price in 2023. Get over it.

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u/Dr_Cher 9d ago

Lol. "Full-size" games that release half completed. Sure, bud.

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u/Crass_Sentiment 9d ago

No, I don't think I will!

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u/SoggyCrew4669 9d ago

Forspoken was great.

There's no way it should be talked about in the same breath as Gollum and Redfall.

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u/w_paskee 9d ago

"I killed a studio with my freaking mind"

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u/HappyHarry-HardOn 9d ago

So great they closed the company

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u/BloodyNebulas 9d ago

The company that made Saboteur also closed immediately after its release, and I’ve never heard anyone say anything bad about that game. You’re not really making the point you think you’re making, game development studios and their success rarely have anything to do with whether or not their games are ‘good’.

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u/gweran 9d ago

The studio that made Kingdoms of Amalur shut down after release, and that game was well liked to the point it got a remastered edition!

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u/baboo8 9d ago

Can't help but wonder if that was all down to Curt Schilling being a scumbag and bad businessman though.

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u/gweran 9d ago

Trying to scam Rhode Island didn’t help, but yeah, definitely more about how the business was run than the quality of the game.

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u/TylerTech2019 PlayStation 9d ago

Trying to scam Rhode Island

That's still one of the most wild stories I've heard about a developer or publisher.

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u/MilenaShadow 9d ago

Shouldn't get downvoted because you liked an unpopular game... I wouldn't call it great but if it was for you that's awesome. It's definitely not as bad coming out of the gate as Gollum or Redfall was but it was considered a flop even by the devs and it's the same year so that's why people are making the comparisons.

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u/fs2222 9d ago

Not as bad as the other two but 'great' is a stretch. Most people certainly didn't think it was great judging by critic and user reviews.

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u/PablitoEscobarTha4th 9d ago

I just want to say that Bloodborne is an amazing game

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u/Sipuli69 9d ago

Hot take

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u/Coldhimmel 9d ago

why would you say something so controversial

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u/bug_the_bug 9d ago

Definitely an underrated gem!

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u/Help_An_Irishman 9d ago

This is the only circumstance under which Gollum and Bloodborne should be compared.

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u/ChokeslamMeMommy 9d ago

Now hold on.

I'm sure some of the little squirmy monsters I slayed were Gollums.

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u/Platnun12 9d ago

Redfall just makes me wish we had Darkwatch come back.

Cowboy vampires are waaay better than modern speak teenagers imo

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u/TylerTech2019 PlayStation 9d ago

That's still one of the best class descriptions I've seen in a video game. Fromsoft knew what class the masochists would choose.

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u/Roook36 9d ago

It's Gollumin' Time

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u/MouseKing69 9d ago

It’s going to make a Gollumillion dollars

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u/kilokokol 9d ago

Is that more, or less, than a Brazillion?

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u/thumbs_up_idiot 9d ago

I wasn’t going to touch it anyways but these games coming out unfinished is ridiculous

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u/nysraved 9d ago

From what I’ve gathered this isn’t even necessarily an “unfinished” game. It just sucks.

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u/H377Spawn Xbox 9d ago

It’s complete alright.

Complete waste of time.

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u/XHeraclitusX 9d ago

I'm in the same boat as you. I very rarely play video games now as a result.

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u/CommanderSabo PC 9d ago

I mean let's be honest.

Those "reviews" are probably bots or paid people to say things like that.

I feel like devs put minimum work into some games, to try and undercut the budget as much as they can. They release the game. If it works, hey cool! If not, "dOnT woRRy wE wIlL fIX iT WiTh paTcHes."

I swear it started with No Man's Sky and too many companies have tried it since.

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u/gimptoast 9d ago

No honestly this is the disturbing thing I personally find, I have seen people on Twitter say Redfall is 8/10...so what the fuck in their delusional mind is a 9? because realistically it's a 4/10, it's almost as if they're using fan boyism mental gymnastics to try and justify their purchases or their love for a box that sits in the corner of their room. And these are legit people, not bots, not paid to say this, just ordinary folk. It's like they're happy being dormats to be walked all over by shitty devs/publishers absolutely taking the piss and taking their money while laughing at them.

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u/NotTaken82736373920 9d ago

It's young teens who aren't mentally mature enough to admit they were the sucker that got scammed. They have to double-down on what they hoped the game would be to feel better. Each year these companies scam a fresh batch of teens with new consoles and it takes them a few years of shitty releases to notice the pattern. Some never notice and they play COD and FIFA.

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u/rconewarrior 9d ago

I can see why some people would give it an 8/10if they have never played that type of game. It's a decent introduction to that type of game play and not too fast paced for new people. I give it a 6/10 just cause it's fun to run around killing vamps with my mum.

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u/ninpho2246 9d ago

That's exactly what redfall was for, kids and grandpa baby sitting them. It's for the people who work 9-5 not for people who are God gamers playing 40hours a week. It's not for the people who snort Adderall and start gaming.

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u/DRealLeal 9d ago

I swear it started with No Man's Sky

Exactly! No man's sky was the only game to do it successfully because they promised all of this awesome shit at release, and it was all lies.

Who knew they would actually make a patch 3 years later that actually fixed the whole game and made the whole community love it.

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u/Majestic-Iron7046 9d ago

Yeah, i think the guys at No Man's Sky at least had the decency to realize they threw shit at theyr fans, and improved theyr work, nowadays that game has MORE content than what they promised!

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u/DeadBrainDK2 9d ago

Internet Historian has a very good video that illustrates the history behind the development of No Mans Sky. Essentially, Sony pumped a ton of money into marketing and the game was developed by like 13 people, and their leader did not have the training he needed for the spotlight. That's the short version anyways, I used to think people overhyped No Mans Sky before but watching that video really makes one empathise with the team

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u/Majestic-Iron7046 9d ago

I really like the No Man's Sky lead dev, Sean "procedural" Murray.
It started as a joke in my group of friends because his first interview he looked so weird and... Well... not corporative, it looked like just a weird guy making a game, obviously he gets to have us as fans!

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u/PairOfKeets 9d ago

Yeah I put a decent chunk of the blame of that whole debacle on Sony. From what I remember, Hello Games wanted more time to polish the game, but Sony was like "No, it needs to launch as soon as possible, the hype is too big and it will die off if we delay this again" They did an amazing job at working on it after the bad launch though.

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u/KillerOs13 9d ago

I think what is most remarkable about NMS is that the guys at Hello Games never tried to duck the criticism. They took it head-on and promised to do better. And boy did they. The game still has its bugs, of course, but the actual game experience is night and day from launch. It's simply incredible what they did to make things right.

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u/Sloth_Monk 9d ago

All while not charging for updates and keeping the team small. Amazing what happens when a company invests in themselves rather than the next big thing & large marketing campaigns.

They simply make an update, announce it on socials and the gaming media handles the marketing for them.

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u/CommanderSabo PC 9d ago

Not only that, but to my knowledge they're also one of the only companies to offer refunds for the game.

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u/Psuedonymphreddit 9d ago

Ok but your I key clearly works so why "theyr"?

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u/Majestic-Iron7046 9d ago

I don't understand English, some words are easy to remember, even logical once you get used to it, but some others have weird special rules!
I don't get it! The language is so easy to learn! Why not going full easy instead of making it harder in some specific cases!

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u/Psuedonymphreddit 9d ago

haha fair enough! Contractions are kind of a nightmare in English.

Their - someone is possession of something.

There - usually used as a target place

They're - "They are" usually meaning a group doing something.

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u/Majestic-Iron7046 9d ago

Oh no, that's the easy part, you know what I find really hard? When to use Y or I.
Plurals sometimes gets confusing, i can't really think of a hard one but something like "ally" that becomes "allies".

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u/FlatteringFlatuance 9d ago

A thing I used to remember that is when a word ends in y it’s plural probably goes from (y)ou —> to (I) and th(e)m(s). Normally y ends a word or starts it. If you add extra letters it changes to ie or ia like in alliance too.

But yeah I don’t know why the hell vowels can all sound so different. Like pie and pier… English is weird

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u/Psuedonymphreddit 9d ago

Almost always if there's a y at the end of a word and you want to pluralize it, it becomes -ies instead of -ys.

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u/Majestic-Iron7046 9d ago

It's that "almost" that creates the doubt and my mind starts confusing everything.

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u/yp261 9d ago

game is still bland as hell

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u/Lraund 9d ago

Yeah, the game still isn't close to what they promised and is still pretty bland. No the whole gaming community doesn't love it, most still refuse to play it.

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u/Majestic-Iron7046 9d ago

Check it out, it has a very cool gameplay and enough content to spend some good time on it.
I can see it can have a little more adjustment, like, progression is a little weird.
But definetly not bland.

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u/AccountNo5595 9d ago

Eh. I'm not hating, but I bought it after everyone said the game was actually good now, and I got bored out of my mind. To each their own, but it's definitely not my cup of tea.

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u/Majestic-Iron7046 9d ago

Check it out, it really is not!

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u/AcidCatfish___ 9d ago

Not to mention, you can think of No Man's Sky's update releases similar to that of Minecraft where now they are just updating it to expand on an already large game for the sake of the community rather than to finish an unfinished game.

Seriously, the NMS devs have implemented ideas from the NMS subreddit. It really feels community-driven at times.

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u/AdequatelyMadLad 9d ago

No Man's Sky was pretty much the perfect candidate for this sort of rehabilitation though. It was a sandbox game with a solid foundation, it just lacked content. No one's going to come back to a linear single player game months or years later to see if they made it better though.

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u/icyphant 9d ago

NMS is still pretty far from it could have been. It's evolved into a decent but bland and awkward mish mash of mechanics and systems.

I respect that they didn't abandon it (after it made them fabulously wealthy in the first month) but the amount of praise it gets really isn't warranted.

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u/Tobeyyyyy 9d ago

No mans sky wasnt the only game that did it successfully. Look at cyberpunks pre order numbers.

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u/MilenaShadow 9d ago

The game is still shit what you talking about willis?

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u/jochinhs 9d ago

I bought cyberpunk on discount after the reviews tanked.

I’d say it’s pretty fun and I enjoyed it quite a lot.

It’s no where near what they promised. But it’s in a spot where I feel it isn’t a bad game.

One major gripe I have tho, is the unskippable cutscenes.

I don’t need to watch the same sex scenes over and over

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u/scrubberduckymaster 9d ago

Game played great on my PC with a 2060 and i only had 1 crash ( i was driving through the city at 200+ MPH and the road did not load right and dropped be through. but i reloaded at almost the same spot.)

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u/MilenaShadow 9d ago

I don't have a 2060 but I also don't really care about having top end graphics it there was some game breaking bugs for me... In the quest where you and jackie go to the hotel with the robot, for some reason my robot box got glitched in front of the exit door and so i was literally just stuck in that room had to restart, which wasn't all that far into the game but still.. super annoying. Found quite a few other wonky bugs that wasn't game breaking but certainly weren't enjoyable. I haven't reloaded it in a while but I gave it a decent shot, waited until they had some of their updates to retry playing and see if things were better... and they weren't much better so I've written it off..

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u/DRealLeal 9d ago

Totally forgot she existed.

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u/Cheddarmelon 9d ago

this attitude is why we're only ever getting golem level games

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u/Tobeyyyyy 9d ago

We are getting those because corps think ppl care about irrelevant things and not focusing on stuff that actually matters. Happened now again with lotr. They probably thought ppl would just blindly buy the game if it says lotr on it.

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u/AlertWar2945 9d ago

I feel like they spent half the time in development making bots to give the hame good reviews

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u/smellyourdick 9d ago edited 9d ago

I still don't know what people expected from a game where you play as gollum from lotr developed by a company known for point and click adventure titles.

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u/Mister_E69 9d ago

I think you've perfectly described the issue. If you're gonna have a point-and-click company make a Gollum game, then why not make a Gollum point-and-click game? And if not, why not give it to a company that has experience with the kind of game Gollum is, like Avalanche?

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u/AdequatelyMadLad 9d ago

why not give it to a company that has experience with the kind of game Gollum is, like Avalanche

Or Cyanide Studios, who are owned by Nacon, the same parent company as Daedalic. They're the guys who made the Styx series, which is probably what this Gollum game was trying to be like in the first place.

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u/Farscape666 9d ago

It’s like telling a checkers player to snowboard down a mountain

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u/AcidCatfish___ 9d ago

I feel like the post-release content updates to improve the game was popularized by No Man's Sky...but No Man's Sky was an indie game by a small developer so it was amazing when they realized their vision later and made the game worth playing. Plus, No Man's Sky is similar to Minecraft in that it is a large game that is continuously changing over time with new features and content added.

Updates to add things to fix the game absolutely should not be excused. Release games in a complete state.

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u/BatThumb 9d ago

No Man's Sky at least had a vision for a unique and exciting idea. The very idea behind this Gollum video game is idiotic. It doesn't matter how much they work on Gollum, it will never be a good game. NMS released a solid foundation and sandbox to build upon. I wish I was in the room when people were pitching ideas for missions in this Gollum game, because I would have loved to question how they came up with such dumb ideas. Some of the ideas in this game are just truly baffling. This honestly might be the worst game I've seen released in the past 10 years, and that isn't hyperbole.

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u/KnightofAshley 9d ago

No amount of patches will fix this game...it just plan is awful.

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u/S3HN5UCHT 9d ago

Gamers are fucking stupid like that

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u/DRealLeal 9d ago

I only downloaded redfall because it was on game pass, and I would have never spent money on it.

I played it for about 2 hours with friends, and our server crashed. Once we reloaded, we lost all of our gear, skills, and levels, but on the same mission.

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u/Knee_Squeezings 9d ago

I downloaded it just to try it, lasted 30 minutes, and holy hell it's so bad

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u/KAKYBAC 9d ago

Folks have got to stop downloading shit games. Even if it is on game pass. Your time is worth more. Voting with your wallet is a useful cliche but now we have to vote with our broadband.

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u/SinopicCynic 9d ago

There is a passable game in Redfall and they should have bit the bullet and delayed it. Instead we have this and the trickle of updates until people forget Redfall was a game that released at all.

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u/uncompaghrelover 9d ago

Bots/paid reviewers. It's that simple.

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u/Dragonfire14 9d ago

There are so many fucking games out there too. Why settle for something that needs patches, when you can just get something that is finished and better.

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u/Tobeyyyyy 9d ago

I havent seen any 4 star reviews tbh

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u/Keepupthegood 9d ago

Gollum is ahead of it’s time.

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u/MaterialDefender1032 9d ago

Can’t wait for Sw1tcher’s episode of What Happened for this

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u/DRealLeal 9d ago

I'm waiting for Charlie's video

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u/xtossitallawayx 9d ago

Go back and look at all of gaming history, not just the games you remember fondly, and you'll find that most games "back in ye olden days" were not very good. Poor sound, poor graphics, stolen gameplay, and designed off of arcades where you're supposed to die every 60 seconds to add more quarters.

The entire Nintendo Seal of Quality had to be invented because there was so much garbage being shipped to other consoles it was making parents not want to buy expensive Nintendo games.

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u/TelmatosaurusRrifle 9d ago

As a 34 year old I do not recall this time. I remember renting video games being a complete cointoss whether it would be a good game or unplayable trash.

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u/chappersyo 9d ago

I remember sending off in the post to receive a patch on a floppy disk

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u/-Clayburn 9d ago

I don't know about the game in question, but having worked in digital marketing, I imagine the answer is that if they gave a review along the lines of "Great game. No problems, highly recommend!" it would be flagged as obviously fake.

When you buy fake reviews, they all do variations of the script and typically add some "criticisms" that aren't very serious in order to seem legit.

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u/Coulstwolf 9d ago

It’s a lot worse than red fall

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u/RespectGiovanni 9d ago

People did the same for Redfall. The copium nowadays is just sad to watch and only helps bad games continue being made.

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u/Easy-Divide-578 9d ago

I have yet to see a serious positive review of it. Pretty sure the positive ones are memeing. Steam reviews are mostly negative and the positive reviews are jokes.

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u/Nomadic_View 9d ago

This looks like it should have been an unannounced gamepass game that was dropped on a random Thursday.

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u/asyrin25 9d ago

Because user reviews are meaningless.

They could be trolling. They could genuinely enjoy the game, it doesn't matter.

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u/Mindful-O-Melancholy 9d ago edited 9d ago

Bots and/or paid reviews, one thing I seriously hate about the gaming industry. They pump so much money into this kind of marketing to hype up a game that ends up being shit and people keep falling for it so they keep doing it. Maybe if they would’ve taken that marketing money and spent it on putting it into development it might have actually been good. Pretty much all they have to do to market a game these days is create a good gameplay video and post it on YouTube and other social media, if it looks good people will like, share and talk about it.

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u/UhhhMatt 9d ago

There is no “fixing” this game. At its core it is a boring, ugly and unintuitive cash grab. Buy and play Styx instead, it does quite literally everything better than Gollum for $50 less, not even including sale prices. I feel very bad for the people who had hope for this game and actually remembered it existed before its release.

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u/judochop1 9d ago

It doesn't matter if they patch it, the game is just boring and dull. Nothing will change that.

Redfall and Forsaken can be patched up to be good, Gollum is just fundamentally rubbish, sadly.

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u/joe10155 9d ago

I watched skillups review of it and my god it looks so much worse than I possibly could have imagined

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u/IncredibleGonzo 9d ago

Yeah I haven’t played it but from what I’ve seen, even if it was totally polished and bug free, the only way to make it a good game would be to make a completely different game.

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u/FlySkyHigh777 9d ago

There's this weird trend lately of people going full copium and playing defense for major corporations releasing essentially unfinished products. To my perception it really kicked off after No Man's Sky, and I can't help but wonder how many of these people are just shills by nature, or if they're so deluded about the game they like (or want to like) that they feel the need to defend it even to the point of absurdity.

AAA Gaming really doesn't mean shit these days. Nearly every major release this year has been a massive letdown in one way or another, and it's becoming increasingly obvious that companies have little to no incentive to actually polish their game prior to release.

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u/asyrin25 9d ago

Daedalic is neither a major corporation nor a AAA game publisher. They're an indie studio and this is their first 3D game development.

This isn't a AAA game.

There's been plenty of exceptional AAA releases this year.

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u/Shatterbrained_ 9d ago

I haven’t heard a single good thing about the game it also looks like hot garbage

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u/Jackalope1993 9d ago

STOP PREORDERING GAMES

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u/PuppetShowJustice 9d ago

Reviewing a game for what it could have been or could eventually be is stupid. This should be obvious, but a review should be a reflection of the experience you had engaging with the product.

There's a local place near me that makes the absolute worst donuts I've ever had. And I've had locals say "Well, the owner just started selling donuts and doesn't know what he's doing yet." and, like, sure. But he's still charging for them and they're objectively terrible. And while I'm sure he's a nice guy or whatever, I have no desire to support or promote his business. But nobody should ever write a review that says he "has potential".

This game is dead in the water anyways and no amount of misguided reviews saying it has potential is going to change things though.

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u/BabylonDrifter 9d ago

None of them are humans who own the game, production company is just trying to prop it up and stop it from freefalling.

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u/Significant-Mud7938 9d ago

It's even worse than Redfall. At least I can see how some people enjoy Redfall, this is just awful in every single way.

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u/HiTekLoLyfe 9d ago

Because people got too hyped, pre ordered the 70 dollar version with actual golem ball hairs, and now feel like idiots so they try to justify their purchase

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u/memerismlol 9d ago

I refuse to believe that anyone actually thought this game was going to be good.

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u/footjam 9d ago

because reviews are bought and paid for.

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u/Joseluki 9d ago

Probably paid reviews.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

What surprised me is I had never heard of the game until it was released. And I thought "It's Lords of the Rings, so of course they're going to fuck it up like they do every other big franchise."

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u/plplokokplok 9d ago

Those reviews are bought and paid for. It happens on every website where they need reviews to survive.

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u/Darkchick3n 9d ago

Not only that, its the price of a AAA game with extra content locked like emote and other stuff.

This game is a joke, almost as bad as redfall

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u/jrstriker12 9d ago

Being sold broken games with the hope that patches a year from now will make it okay has been normalized. Also I assume people who pre-ordered and bought the game dont want to say they made a mistake and bought a bad game.

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u/Tricky-Tie3167 9d ago

The only good thing from this game is the reviewer I watched was saying orcses the whole time lol.

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u/CptRainbowBeard 9d ago

People need to accept that not every game can be saved. Some are just built of the foundation of bad ideas and fundamental design

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u/ImNotSuspicious1 9d ago

Not playing a game that makes me pay extra to have the elves speak elvish.

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u/KleioChronicles 9d ago

When you manage to become the very clear worst game of the year, beating Redfall’s shit launch, you’ve got serious issues. There’s no aspect of Gollum that’s done even half-decently. And they’re asking AAA price too.

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u/Neither-Craft1090 9d ago

Trash game is trash. Not Tolkein. Not Canon. Trash.

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u/SplitPerspective 9d ago

Sunk cost copium.

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u/CrusadingComet 9d ago

LOTR: Gollum is one of the games of the year.

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u/Crazescape 9d ago

Bots. Simple as that. Probably LOTR fans who don’t want their property damaged. They did the same thing for Rings of Power, but nothing can save that either.

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u/Zeshui0 9d ago

Will agree that a large portion of those positive reviews are probably bots or shills.

Actual fans of LOTR didn't support either of these products though and they've been expressing their disdain quite frequently towards Amazon and Daedalic.

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u/MaoWasaLoser 9d ago

User reviews are about as useful as a great rack on a nun. That's why.

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u/raytraced_BEAR 9d ago

User reviews are the most reliable to me personally, at least on Steam.

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u/Jon-Slow 9d ago

Steam reviews yes, Metacritics and Rottentomato and other places where people can leave reviews without proof of purchase and experience are worth nothing.

At least you know in Steam it's someone who's actually bought and played it and isn't just yelling "woke" at the game and giving it a 0.

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u/obaterista93 9d ago

I was just reading a different discussion thread about Tears of the Kingdom.

Game was delayed by about a year solely so Nintendo could bugfix and refine. I've put a pretty significant amount of hours into the game and have encountered zero bugs. There were a few things, like an item duping glitch, and other super minor things that others have encountered, but everything within normal gameplay has been flawless.

That should be the norm, not the exception. The fact that it's noteworthy that Nintendo released a game that works and isn't broken is absolutely nuts.

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u/bsousa717 9d ago

If the whole Cyberpunk disaster didn't do it for people, nothing ever will lmao

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u/cmdrtheymademedo 9d ago

There are a large percentage of either insider reviews/payed reviews on a bunch of games. If you look at red fall on the x box app there are 5 star reviews for they game that sound like they were written by a bot

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u/TelmatosaurusRrifle 9d ago

The publisher tried to cancel this game years ago and there were threads, he on reddit saying,

No my hecking wholesome goblino mode video juego

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u/IHeartTheCommunity 9d ago

AAA gaming is dogshit

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u/JonMeadows 9d ago

every game that's released is just fucking bland or downright broken. I don't buy new games anymore. I do not get hyped for games anymore. I wait until they go on sale, or they're offered through playstation plus subscription. buying full price games is idiotic

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u/Ezekiel2121 9d ago

Must be a sad and boring life for a gamer.

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u/BaphometStarGiver 9d ago

Then stop pre ordering, just beacuse you trust a company doesn't mean they are trustable. See what happened in the TLOU:PC version. No matter how much good games a company makes, their first goal is to achieve money.

All companies are greedy, it's just the gamers reactions that forces them to be good.

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u/Swaqqmasta 8d ago

Nothing they could do to that game would make it worth paying for or playing.

It's a concept that should've never been thought of, let alone created.

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u/ejohns19 9d ago

Because redditors think they can change the gaming industry. But they keep buying games anyways. Everyone just complains.

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u/MrCabals 9d ago

I think Bungie deserves a place on this topic as well or even Ubisoft broken titles with loads and loads of patch work with more broken stuff to come after

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u/snobberbogger99 9d ago

I still don't know anything about Redwall and I'm okay with that. I had no clue it was even coming out until people started pissing on it.

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u/BradleyAllan23 PC 9d ago

On par with Redfall? Gollum is significantly worse.

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u/ElevateTheMind 9d ago

People are quick to blame the devs. I get it they create the game. This is why companies are allowed to keep pushing 70% completed games and update them later. We need to understand that devs have corporate bosses that set the deadlines, finished game or not those deadlines are met. The big wigs want the money coming in and need to please the shareholders. Until people understand this, these crap games will keep getting pushed out.

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u/Shadesmctuba 9d ago

You’re getting downvoted, but this is correct. It’s totally possible that the dev team said “hey this game isn’t ready yet, we should push the release date out so we can finish it and make a good game”. But the executive team is all like “yeah we can just patch it after the fact. We already have a good amount of preorders. Just release it as-is and we’ll figure it out later”. They make the decisions. LOTR is a cash cow, and they already know that even if they ship a bad game, it’ll be in the news, and bad press is good press yadda yadda. They’ll make another one too, and it’ll probably be shit too. The cycle continues.

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u/kujasgoldmine 9d ago

Noman's Sky was also shit at release. But now it's a masterpiece according to a lot of people.

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u/Jedi_Outcast 9d ago

People can like bad games.

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u/Jedi_Outcast 9d ago

May the force be with you.

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u/thatsbehooving 9d ago

2023...when videogames died.

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u/United-Sail-9664 9d ago

The reign of triple A titles has come to an end. Indie is the new way.

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u/LorientAvandi Console 9d ago

This is an indie game

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u/ICPosse8 9d ago

Because people are fucking stupid

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u/CutScene 9d ago

never underestimate shills

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u/Jwagner0850 9d ago

Pleeeeenty of paid reviewers out there.

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u/Jack0fTh3TrAd3s 9d ago

Bots paid for by the publishers is my guess on good reviews. There’s also the chance of a morbious situation… but that was great because it caused Sony to flop twice. That won’t happen with a game.

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u/SunChipMan 9d ago

Don't besmirch Redfall, that came on game pass at least.

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u/Grakulen 9d ago

It's not on par with Redfall. Redfall was leagues better.

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u/Happy123boy 9d ago

Or you could just wait it out not buy it day one.

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u/ReeReeIncorperated 9d ago

This shit is WAY WORSE than Redfall. At least Redfall is fun despite it looking like shit, Gollum is just a catastrophic nightmare

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u/TehMasterer01 9d ago

This is the modern ET.