r/gifs 23d ago

She knew what she was doing

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u/Guilty-Message-5661 22d ago

NO NO NO. You are extremely ignorant and naive on this issue. Private run daycares ban kids ALL THE TIME. Especially if they are physically harming other kids. It’s a massive liability and it’s NOT the responsibility of a private business owner to cure the psychological ailments of someone else’s child.

Also, You don’t force an entire group of children to get damaged just to cater to a single violent child. That’s beyond stupid. The other kids aren’t fucking guinea pigs. You take that violent child out of the group setting immediately and report that behavior to welfare services so they can be evaluated and properly treated.

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u/broodthaers 22d ago

I'm guessing u/knut79 is Norwegian, and we definitely do not "ban" children from daycare here. I'm guessing that would actually be illegal

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u/LoxReclusa 22d ago

Are your daycare centers privately owned, or government run? The reason I'm asking is that the ones here in the US are privately owned, and every one of those kids' parents are paying for their child to be taken care of safely until the parent can get off work to pick them up. If a kid is running around pulling hair, throwing punches, and slamming doors on other kids, then would you pay to have your kid assaulted? I would remove my kid and report the facility if that kind of abuse was getting overlooked.

With that being said, what would be better for the business, and the welfare of the 20+ other children? Denying one child, or letting multiple children be hurt and losing multiple customers. I do understand the concept of no child left behind, and taking care of the needs of the child acting out, so I would encourage any day care that feels a child needs banned to report the situation to the parents and any other authority that may be able to help. But I don't agree with subjecting other kids to abuse in order to pander to an abusive child.

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u/broodthaers 22d ago edited 22d ago

They can be either run/owned by the municipality or by private, but they operate by the same regulations with regards to staffing, level of education of staff, number of staff per child, price etc.

I think you are presenting a false dichotomy, though. You don't have to exclude one child to ensure the safety of the other children. It's all about resources and the level of competancy of the teachers etc. The only thing you really accomplish by excluding is denying a child the opportunity to learn and develop normal social functioning.

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u/LoxReclusa 21d ago

The problem is that a lot of private ones here aren't equipped for that. They are underpaid and understaffed, and there's only oversight after something happens. In that situation, I can understand making the choice that prioritizes the many over the few. Especially since a lot of the workers are either mothers that took it as a job to get free daycare, or teens/young women who are related to the owners or just looking for work. They aren't qualified to give psychiatric assessments, and they don't have the authority to drive an inquest into the child's home life.