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'Prey': How 'Predator' prequel makes history as Hollywood's 1st franchise movie to star all-Native American cast Article
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/prey-predator-prequel-native-american-indigenous-cast-amber-midthunder-interview-150054578.html678
u/zjustice11 5d ago
I just liked how simple this one was. I do not need a bunch of exposition or detail discussion about why predators do what they do. I’d like to know where they come from sure, but mainly I just wanna see them hunt This was a good, simple predator movie. I hope we get more.
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u/Australian-Hungarian 5d ago
Same. I loved how grounded this one was. More doesn't mean better.
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u/Ubergoober166 4d ago
I'd love to see them continue this idea of Predators coming to hunt the greatest warriors/hunters from throughout our history. Seeing them come here and test new technology and tactics and stuff throughout history until the ones we see in 1 and 2 would be awesome.
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u/MCE85 5d ago
Really liked this one. A ton of call backs to the previous films too which was cool.
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u/Horknut1 5d ago
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
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u/Pestilence86 5d ago
I laughed so hard. Also i thought she'd be completely submerged and covered in mud, and accidentally figure out she's invisible, but then it turned out to be a reference to Schwarzenegger too.
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u/aesthetic_cock 5d ago
It should have always been kept simple “they hunt for sport” “they hunt as initiation into their cultures manhood” leave it at that.
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u/mrmagicnemo 5d ago
It was simple at face value but having read a lot of predator books it’s actually very detailed without being in your face. Whole movie was really really well done.
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u/Zam-Wow 5d ago
If I had a nickel for every horror project titled Prey with Native American characters involving aliens I’d have 2 nickels. It’s not a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.
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u/Kinky_Falcon
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Just finished it.
Very solid flick. A lot of fun and at 90 minutes it’s over before it starts to get boring.
Would highly recommend it.
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u/Actually-Yo-Momma 5d ago
“It’s over before it starts to get boring”
Sign me up coach. I hate movies that are dragged out for no reason
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u/darkhorse298 5d ago
You know it's getting bad when random garbage action movies are pushing two hours. Like fellas this movie will never be citizen Kane let's be succinct.
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u/cashmoney109 5d ago
You telling me Jurassic Park 6 didn't need to be 146 minutes long?
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u/darkhorse298 5d ago
I'm always curious to see what the hell they did cut. We need the 180 minute directors cut.
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u/flyingboarofbeifong 5d ago
Tons of exposition to try and justify how silly of a situation it has become.
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u/psymunn 5d ago edited 5d ago
It's impressive having a movie be 2 hours long with absolutely zero pacing or downtime. It's like some one made a movie out of a 6 year old rambling about dinosaurs for 2 hours straight (and not a 6 year old who happens to know a lot about dinosaurs)
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u/Mediocremon 5d ago
(and not a 6 year old who happens to know a lot about dinosaurs)
Those are the worst kind! Gimme the dinokid any day. Teach me, six year old senpai.
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u/Grof_Grofson 5d ago
Just finished it too, just a couple quick references to the other movies, and it didn't waste time coming up with some half baked back story. Very tight story telling and didn't waste time.
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u/SadisticBuddhist 5d ago
This and NOPE have redeemed movies for me lately. Just wish I could see Prey in theaters.
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u/Grof_Grofson 5d ago
Haven't been out to see NOPE yet but I really want to. I agree, Prey would have been good at the theater too.
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u/SadisticBuddhist 5d ago
I’d say catch it before it’s out of theaters. The sound is A+
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u/dj_narwhal 5d ago
How is Amber Midthunder? I absolutely loved her in Legion.
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u/Mahale 5d ago
Ah ha! That's where I recognize her from!
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u/cortex04 5d ago
Saw her in The Ice Road alongside Liam Neeson for the first time.
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u/Mahale 5d ago
She's fantastic in legion plays a very complex character.
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u/cortex04 5d ago
Ahan! Looks like I should resume watching Legion then. Got distracted after 3 or 4 episodes of season 1.
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u/Singer211 5d ago
She’s fantastic in this. Her character is also well written as well.
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u/tetten 5d ago
Amber Midthunder
What a bad ass name lol, that could be a superhero name.
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u/Sevnfold 5d ago
Shes great. The movie isnt perfect, I could nitpick a few things, but it's fun. And Amber is good as well as her brother in the movie.
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u/TheUnrepententLurker 5d ago
Her brother absolutely steals his scenes. First film credit too
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u/LipDizneez 4d ago
They kind of made the rest of the warriors look like a bunch of chumps compared to the main girl and her brother.
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u/belonii 5d ago
i enjoyed it dispite the bad cg animals, the new predator design is top notch and the slow burn story really fits(and also echo's predator 1). probably the best post predator 2 predator movie, dunno if it holds up on rewatch tho
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u/HeartofLion3 5d ago
Yeah the cgi was really noticeably mediocre during the daytime scenes. It looked a lot better when they used the night and evening scenes to cover it up like Jurassic park.
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u/fathertime979 5d ago
I thought the cgi was pretty good for a more budget friendly cgi.
We often forget how far we've come with cgi especially when the budget is fuckin huge.
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u/Vast-Actuary-9689 5d ago
If was 10 million, I thought it looked great given how little it cost. It cost 2 Mallrats.
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u/tdotmike5 5d ago edited 4d ago
No way. That’s less than some tv episodes cost. Looked better than some films with 10x the budget.
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u/TheMcWhopper 5d ago edited 5d ago
Cgi wasn't bad. I thought it looked fairly good, just not groundbreaking
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u/CeruleanRuin 5d ago
Everyone criticizing it would have been shitting themselves over it five or ten years ago. We are so spoiled.
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u/polloloco81 5d ago
I remember watching the first predator movie as a kid and totally creeped out by how scary and menacing the Predator was. I’m happy to say Prey’s predator creeped me out as well and I’m now a full grown adult. It definitely did not skip abs day.
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u/KurayamiShikaku 5d ago
It definitely did not skip abs day.
It had like 18 of them motherfuckers
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u/Ok-Lengthiness6170 5d ago
Did those French guys not count?
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u/simpledeadwitches 5d ago
As a Frenchman myself I have to agree. We are mostly butter fat.
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u/KID_THUNDAH 5d ago edited 5d ago
A bit nitpicky, but the headline is incorrect, it’s not an all Native American cast. Don’t wanna spoil it with more detail, but It was a predominantly Native American cast
Even without getting into details of the movie, the headline says All and the first Paragraph of the article says predominantly lol
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u/AsleepNinja 5d ago
I mean the alien isn't a native American
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u/465554544255434B52 5d ago
Hollywood Probably didn't even cast a real alien smdh
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u/M1K3jr 5d ago
John Leguizamo is gonna be pissed!
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u/starcoder 5d ago
I get this reference
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u/ripcurrent 5d ago
Me too!!! Have a great day fellow redditor! May your movies be succinct and entertaining.
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u/IFS84 5d ago
Does this mean we can finally have Turok the movie? Thats all I want.
Just sell it as the original all American hero! I'll even write it if you need.
Sorry, have been dreaming of it since I was like 8.
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u/Balls_of_Adamanthium 5d ago
“You so rarely see a period piece where indigenous people get to be full people. It’s either people who are very savage or overly spiritual. So getting to show a variety of personalities with social dynamics and all kinds of things like that, and inside of a movie [series] like Predator, which is also just fun and exciting and entertaining, to me is just like the best thing in the world.”
Preserve Trachtenberg at all cost.
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u/EscapeFromPost 5d ago edited 5d ago
And indigenous people and culture. I appreciate Trachtenberg for seeing the importance in that, and hope it leads to more opportunities for them to tell their own stories, as well.
Give me more Rutherford Falls, more Reservation Dogs, more Wild Indian.
Edit: omg thank you all for the new recs, I'm gonna check them all out soon!
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u/Smailien 5d ago
more Reservation Dogs
Just as a heads up for everyone, Reservation Dogs season 2 started up recently. S'go den.
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u/SporesM0ldsandFungus 5d ago
If you're looking other indigenous peoples in interesting sci-fi roles, check out Cara Gee in The Expanse. She's Ojibwe. She kills it playing Camina Drummer.
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u/honest-miss 5d ago
I say this for every danged character on that show, but Drummer genuinely has a special place in my heart. Sometimes I still watch her speech just for the danged thrill of it.
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u/fractalfocuser 5d ago
How dare you not have Smokesignals on that list
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u/wross1 5d ago
Some days its a good day to die, others its a good day to have breakfast
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u/230flathead 5d ago
Arlene Joseph makes the best frybread! Some Jesus frybread. Frybread that can raise the dead. Frybread that walks on water!
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u/breadburn 5d ago
Check out Blood Quantum too. Mostly indigenous cast, pretty cool story. Worth a watch.
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u/wcg66 5d ago edited 5d ago
I used to watch the Totally Rad Show and even got to meet them all at SXSW, It's great to see Dan become so successful.
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u/kappaomicron 5d ago edited 5d ago
My biggest issue with pretty much all of the movies that came after Predator is how they trivialised the Predator's strength. The first one featured Arnold's character and a team of battle-hardened soldiers, and none of them stood a chance against the Predator in hand-to-hand combat.
Which isn't at all surprising when you're dealing with a humanoid who can literally rip out your fuckin' spine with their bare hands.
Arnold, despite being built like a tank, had to rely on his wits with traps in the first Predator, and was treated like a ragdoll being thrown around effortlessly even as a guy his size. Yet these newer movies often have some average looking person going toe-toe with one of these fuckers, and I always instantly get thrown out of the movie because of it.
I'm really hoping this movie returns to how scary the Predator originally was, and how no normal human could stand any hope or chance when attacking one head on.
Edit: Movie Spoilers Below!
Recently watched the movie. It was pretty good at first, but towards the end had some stupid parts in it that took me out of the movie.
It's definitely a step in the right direction, but am I really supposed to believe a Predator doesn't know how his own fucking weapon operates? The way it was defeated was stupid.
The way the protagonist "figured out" the Predator couldn't see due to low body heat felt low effort mental gymnastics. There shouldn't have been a scene where the Predator had her by the throat, at that point it's game over. He could have easily crushed her windpipe with his grip alone. He wrestled a fucking bear and barely lost in terms of strength. Then proceeded to kill the bear by opting not to wrestle with it again, and instead side-step dodged and punched it so hard in the head, it died.
I was really loving the movie in the beginning, it was really good. But some of the things were poorly executed or fleshed out. I think instead of the bullshit flower petals making your body cold enough not to be picked up on thermals, she should have figured out the trick with his sight by accidentally getting covered in mud like the original.
Instead of the Predator being so inept with how his weapons work, she should have just stolen the mask and buried it somewhere to remove his ability to fire. Then defeated the Predator by luring him into the quicksand/mud pit trap. Doesn't matter how strong you are in those, the harder you struggle, the deeper you sink and die. That would have defeated the Predator.
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u/Porrick 5d ago
On the other hand, one of the only things I liked about Alien Versus Predator was how it showed Predators as not being equally badass. The first couple of Predators completely suck and are taken out by the Aliens almost as easily as squishy humans. I was just about to complain about how lame this is (along with everything else that was lame in that movie), when the last Predator decapitated an alien without even glancing in its direction. That one knows its shit.
That contrast sets the Predators up as, sure, being super strong and having lots of lethal technology - but emphasizes how important their skill and training is. The ones who pass their weird gauntlet rituals are the ones who know their shit; the ones who don't know their shit are just as much Alien food as humans are.
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u/Boffleslop 5d ago edited 5d ago
It's been awhile since I've seen AvP, but I'm pretty sure the first two predators are taken out by the same Alien (who eventually has the net scarring).
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u/Significant-Mud2572 5d ago
And the first one, I think it was, was built like a brick shit house of a predator.
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u/strayjay50 5d ago
The Predators in AvP are younger, less experienced Youngbloods. (with the exception of the elders seen at the end)
Both of the Yautja killed by Grid died because of their own hubris - the first, Chopper, tried to make a trophy out of an unarmed human and got ambushed. The second, Celtic, failed to consider the defining characteristic of the xenomorphs: acid blood, and claimed victory before he had actually won.
The Yautja are kind of depicted as cowards and shitty hunters in the films. Constantly ambushing far weaker, sometimes even unarmed, prey (humans) using technology that outclasses human's by thousands of years and still losing because of their prideful ways and constantly underestimating human ingenuity. They're still one of my top 3 alien races in sci-fi though
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u/HappyApple99999 5d ago
If I remember in the book the older Predator kills a younger one for breaking the rules by hunting humans without permission
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u/davsyo 5d ago
I think that’s the point of the first movie. Soldiers used brute force against the unknown and got wasted. Dutch switched up tactics to becoming the unknown to the Yautja’s brute force to defeat the Yautja.
It may not have been the point but it was the point that I took away at least.
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u/HypeConducta 5d ago
They also rage-quit like a motherfucker when they lose.. blowing themselves and everyone else to kingdom come lol
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u/Throwawayintocosmos 5d ago
Humans have the same diversity. There are people doing 1200 spins on skateboards, free diving 100s of meters, juggling and solving multiple rubik's cubes, solving general relativity, that bald guy who's a firefighter/police/professor/doctor/mechanic/etc., and then there's me vigorously rinsing the cut on my finger to get off the spicy cheeto dust.
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u/_duncan_idaho_ 5d ago
Then he let his guard down and got shanked by the queen. Idiot.
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u/Significant-Mud2572 5d ago
She was just getting payback for his epic, spinny, spear to the neck move he pulled on her.
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u/ghigoli 5d ago
this predator is more of a juvenile one (in prey). but the body count is really high. this one looks scary as fuck and it has some scenes that go "holy shit how can a human even try to fight that?"
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u/SameElephant2029 5d ago
It just occurred to me, both protagonist and predator were probably on their “coming of age hunt”
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u/todahawk 5d ago
It was so good, by far and away the best Predator movie after the original. Loved it.
Definitely recommend watching the Comanche language version too!
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u/zslayer89 5d ago
How do you watch the Comanche language version?
All I could access for language options was English.
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u/todahawk 5d ago
If you're on Hulu below the watch icon is a strip. It has a drop down for the other predator films and the second one from the left the option for Prey (Comanche Dub).
If' you're on Disney+ it's under extras
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u/simpledeadwitches 5d ago
They do a good job showing the Predator taking damage through the film which leads to our humans having more of a chance, in addition out protagonists use traps and cunning to trick it as best they can on top of being some of the fiercest warriors of their time period it all fits together nicely.
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u/ZandyTheAxiom 5d ago
The fact it takes damage is also why I love the first Terminator film. I like my unstoppable slasher monsters to be clearly weakened by fights, it's no fun when they brush everything off (it's the main reason I never really liked liquid terminators).
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u/thx1138- 5d ago
Okay but that katana duel in Predators was pretty badass.
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u/Slimmzli 5d ago
I saw somewhere people were brainstorming different time periods and ancient Japan was one of those
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u/nomoneyjesse 5d ago
This is what it should be honestly. Show me warriors from different periods of time fighting like samurai, pirates, knights. Maybe that shit would be too stupid at some point but it's better than every single movie being about a military unit with guns.
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 5d ago
They’ve been different Predators each time, maybe Arnie got an absolute unit and all the other people are getting the weaklings of the Predator species.
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u/Explorer2138 5d ago
If I remember right (in-universe lore wise) the Predator in the first film was one that had already killed at least one full-grown Xenomorph. Apparently Yautja's (Predators) only earn the right to use the shoulder plasma cannon thing when they've killed at least one Xenomorph in hand-to-hand combat. So it stands to reason that the Predator in the first film was already a fairly capable killer.
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u/kleptophobiac 5d ago
Once the French trappers came into the story, I was pretty sure that they were going to just have a native-warrior-and-predator-team-up-to-kill-the-invaders storyline, with both of them alive at the end and mutual respect earned. I was very pleased when I realized, "Oh, she's just going to kill this mother fucker."
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u/Neversoft4long 5d ago
The bear was working it for a bit tho. It has the pred pinned and was ragdolling him in the river before it backed off because it thought the pred was dead.
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u/SmArburgeddon 5d ago
Yeah and even the wolf got a bite in before it was booted across the wilderness.
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u/Optimal_Locke 5d ago
Oh boy I'm excited for you to watch this then. Strongest Predator ever put on film.
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u/CursedHuskerFan 5d ago
The girzzly bear fight was pretty fucking sweet
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u/kappaomicron 5d ago
You and some of the other replies are dangerously getting my hopes up... xD
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u/fxrky 5d ago
Please tell me you're not being sarcastic ill go see it right this second
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u/Sea-Gain-2544 5d ago
Just finished it! It’s really neat- I like the primitive combat and it was pretty refreshing to see. Super campy gore, but had some really striking visuals nonetheless.
I hope to see Amber Midthunder and Dakota Beavers in more stuff- they rocked and were a joy to watch.
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u/SmArburgeddon 5d ago
I'm confused by what this means because although the vast majority of the cast were Native American it certainly wasn't all of them, there's a number of white actors in the movie too.
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u/nikhkin 5d ago
The article even backtracks to say "predominantly native American cast" in the first paragraph.
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u/thisguy012 5d ago
Yahoo gotta get clicks in 2022 somehow (jk this is probably just as much Hulu/Prey's PR dept. putting in work)
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u/Tossing_Goblets 5d ago
Just a Footnote - Sonny Landham, who played Billy in the first Predator Movie, Was Half Cherokee and one-eighth Seminole, according to his Wikipedia page.
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u/masimone 5d ago edited 5d ago
Not trying to take anything away from this but wasn't Apocalypto all Maya people?
Edit: okay got it. Not a franchise, not part of USA.
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u/striderwhite 5d ago
Not a franchise, not part of USA.
They always find a loophole...😂
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u/DigitalEllusion 5d ago
Morbius was the first US film featuring a Living Vampire that made a MorBillion Dollars
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u/Synsano 5d ago
That was my take. They can use whatever language they want to make this sound like some kind of first, but Apocalypto will always be the ground breaker for this category.
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u/whiskeyeuthanasia
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The Predator isn't Native American! With those teeth he's half British at least!
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u/PhoenixReborn 5d ago
Well well well, if it isn't the invisible c**t.
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u/ToneBone12345 5d ago
Not sure if was intentional or not considering Dan tenchberg also directed the series premiere of the boys
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u/OrionSouthernStar 5d ago
As a read that line I heard Butcher’s voice in my head.
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u/Big_Nevs_Tache 5d ago
Of course you did, my love. Now fuck off back to the stalls while we sort this shit out
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u/Robot_ninja_pirate 5d ago edited 5d ago
The "franchise' distinction is such a weasely way to make it the first of something that it otherwise wouldn't be, cause it's the first in a franchise to be an all-Native American cast, not the first franchise to be an all-Native American cast, so if we are just talking about a one-off film in a franchise why not compare it to other one-offs? It's a distinction with no difference.
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u/KID_THUNDAH 5d ago
It’s also not an all-Native American cast, it’s an exaggerated headline, the first paragraph literally says predominantly Native American lol
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u/thats1evildude 5d ago edited 5d ago
Misleading headline. The alien that is playing the Predator antagonist is not Native American or even native to Earth. 🤪
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u/anser_one 5d ago
More than time they came back to what made predator great. Throwing the beast in another movie genre. Jungle war, cop/city etc
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u/league_starter 5d ago
Need predator vs samurais set in medieval Japan next or just medieval knights and then vs. Roman army
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u/DontKnowAnyBetter 5d ago
Naru was a fantastic protagonist. Amber Midthunder deserved to be a lead on the big screen.
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Wasn’t Apocolypto all indigenous people?