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Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years for seditious conspiracy in Jan. 6 attack
https://apnews.com/article/stewart-rhodes-oath-keepers-seditious-conspiracy-sentencing-b3ed4556a3dec577539c4181639f666c5.5k
u/Schiffy94 3d ago
Prosecutors were pushing for 25 but I'll take it. He still won't be out until he's 76.
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u/StifleStrife 3d ago
Ironically you probably lose a lot of weight in prison? Idk I also don't wanna find out. He will for sure join the Aryans lol
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Prison food is cheap, and high in fat and salt content. Really, really high. If a prisoner is not careful, s/he will put on many pounds while incarcerated.
Having said that, this is a guy trained by the military who shot his own eye out while playing with a loaded gun. Clearly zero self control. So I expect to see him balloon up like that character in Whale.
Also, I keep thinking about what his estranged wife said:
"That asshole has been getting away with crazy criminal shit his entire life. I hope they finally nail his ass to the wall, the fucking idiot!"
Other rabid militia scum looking to overthrow our government should take this as a warning about fucking around and finding out, but that is remarkably unlikely because of how stupid they are.
Bye-bye Stewart. Your only possibility of release is if The Indicted Convicted Diapered Orange Shitstain gets to be president and pardons you.
The other possibility is that he's in the cell next to you. You just never know. If that does happen, try not to shoot his eye out.
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u/Jarfullofdoga 3d ago
The second any republican takes the White House every 1/6 conviction is getting a pardon so they can rerun the same play with fewer mistakes. I don’t know why there’s so much faith around here that our justice system isn’t irrevocably compromised.
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u/bigblackcouch 3d ago
You're putting way too much faith in the expectations that a GOP member would do anything to help out someone who doesn't "donate".
Otherwise I'd say you're spot on if this idiot were a millionaire.
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u/Th3_Admiral 3d ago
Exactly. Most of these people will be a fading memory by the next election. By the election after that they will be ancient history. The pundits and propaganda pushers will have long since found their next heroes/villains and Republican voters will have gone through several fake outrage topics by that point.
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u/silicon1 3d ago
...When you get a Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-shot Range Model air rifle and forget to watch A Christmas Story beforehand.
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u/enonmouse 3d ago
I dunno... he'd have trouble watching anyones back even his own. Prison is likely to be an eye opening experience for him.
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u/DicmoVolant 3d ago
Sleep with one eye open…
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u/SacrificialPwn 3d ago
76- perfect age for a Presidential bid, just right for the Senate but too old for the House. Definitely prime for a far-right national radio show/podcast. A portion of the country prefer having a sleazy, criminal grandfather control their thinking
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u/Halt-CatchFire 3d ago
I think you overestimate how important these figures are to the right.
No one will remember this guy in 18 years, we'll all be too busy dealing with the next batch of insane shit going on, and if we're still teetering at the brink of collapse there will be far more prominent fascists than a decrepit overweight clown who shot his own eye out and then got dumped in prison and forgotten about.
If you want to stay prominent in the griftosphere, you have to be divisive and put out content every waking moment. He can't do that from prison, so someone else is going to fill the gap he left
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u/eaglebayqueen 2d ago
He shot his own eye out? So much for safe firearm handling practices.
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u/Dedpoolpicachew 3d ago
With his conviction he’s not eligible to hold any office. 14th amendment, brah.
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u/SacrificialPwn 3d ago
Sadly, I don't believe you are correct kind sir/madam:
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
Edit: I wish it were the case though
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u/SpiritedTie7645 3d ago
You are correct. Technically a person in prison can be the POTUS but they cannot be there with a conviction of insurrection or rebellion.
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u/StopCensoringPeopleR 3d ago
As he has never held office, yes he can hold office.
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u/Same-Strategy3069 3d ago
This applies to officers in the military has well I would assume. Officer of United States includes officers in any branch. This guy was airborne.
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u/kashmill 3d ago
He joined the Army after highschool and was discharged 7 months later. There is no way he was an officer (not even a non-commissioned officer) in the army
Rhodes attended high school in Las Vegas, then joined the U.S. Army and was honorably discharged after seven months, the result of a spinal injury sustained during airborne school
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u/ltreginaldbarklay 3d ago edited 3d ago
Should add another 20 years for a charge of Felony Murder, since he has been convicted of being a participant in a felony during which Capitol Police Officer, Brian Sicknick, was murdered by the mob attacking the Capitol.
Capitol rioter admits to assaulting Officer Brian Sicknick, who died after Jan. 6
Every person in that mob should be getting at least 20 years based on the Felony Murder Rule alone.
Actually 40 years for at least two counts, because Ashli Babbitt, another attacker, was killed attempting to breach a chamber where members of Congress were sheltering. It doesn't matter that the person killed was one of the perps. It still counts.
Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester. It’s clear why the cop who shot her was exonerated
The felony murder rule is a law in most states and under federal law that allows anyone who is accused of committing a violent felony to be charged with murder if the commission of that felony results in the death of someone. The people involved in the felony may be charged for murder under the rule even if they had no intention of killing someone. For example, if A and B attempt to rob a store and A accidentally killed an employee when breaking through a window, then both A and B could be charged with murder through the felony murder rule, even though B did not kill a person and A did not intend the outcome.
(Edit: At least its nice to finally see an actual conviction for literal "Seditious Conspiracy". Not long ago this guy would have been sent to Sing Sing to ride Old Sparky. He's getting off light. )
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u/Reimiro 3d ago
So true. Inner city guys get murder charges all the time for being around a murder.
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u/ltreginaldbarklay 3d ago
Biden needs to take his Executive Branch responsibility for Law Enforcement more seriously, stop being so soft on domestic terrorism and replace Merrick Garland with an AG that actually has balls.
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u/BasicDesignAdvice 3d ago
He will be pardoned by the next Republican president.
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u/214ObstructedReverie 3d ago
DeSantis just said today that he was planning to look at pardoning all the J6 treason fucks.
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u/bigblackcouch 3d ago
Of course he would. Fuckstain is literally just running a campaign of misery and outright evil. In a sane world he would be laughed out of running for being a fucking psycho. Unfortunately this is clown world where being a horrible shitbag somehow gets you a cadre of equally hateful assholes.
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u/theaviationhistorian 3d ago
He's competing against Trump in who will make America fascist. This timeline sucks.
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u/Twerks4Jesus 3d ago
Well average life expectancy for American men is 75. 🤞
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u/RanchBaganch 3d ago
Imagine…?
“Good news Stewart! You’re getting out tomorrow!” Drops dead.
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u/Flargthelagwagon 3d ago
Yea he wasn't at the Capital. He was in a hotel across the river with crates of guns and crew of men ready to use them. That counts buddy!
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u/Material_Strawberry 3d ago
It's as if he had planned, in cooperation with others, or "conspired" to commit sedition. Since he didn't, he wasn't convicted of sedition, though.
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u/northshore12 3d ago
Sure would be interesting all those deleted SS texts and Mark Meadows texts, to what degree they interact with Oaf Kreeper texts on J5 and J6. I'm sure Garland will think about possibly starting to get around to doing something about the guy at the center of it all....
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u/bNoaht 3d ago
Wait so you are telling me that if I start a gang, then plot and plan to rob a bank, send my crew into the bank, while I stay at the hotel with more of my crew and guns, to fight if things get too out of hand, that I committed conspiracy to rob a bank?
But what about my freedoms?
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u/hateboss 3d ago
He is high profile enough that him going to the Capitol likely would have run their whole operation off the rails because of the attention that he would have attracted. In order for them to have had any shot he had to stay away... So their pleas of "but he wasn't even there!" are incredibly disingenuous.
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u/Flargthelagwagon 3d ago
Oh yea. I mean he had radio contact with his people the entire time. There were Oath Keepers on site even ahead of the Proud Boys. The most definitely had a plan.
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u/GoldenFalcon 3d ago
They need to keep climbing the ladder. The person in charge of gathering them and sending them, whoever that may be.. should also be held accountable. Whoever that may be, I'm running a blank on who that is... But yeah.
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u/NCSUGrad2012 3d ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The founder of the Oath Keepers extremist group was sentenced Thursday to 18 years in prison for orchestrating a weekslong plot that culminated in his followers attacking the U.S. Capitol in a bid to keep President Joe Biden out of the White House after the 2020 election.
Keep in mind this person founded the group. Evil piece of shit.
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u/BonesMalone2 3d ago
Also shot his own eye out. Also couldn’t get a glass eye because he’s not a big fan of “bathing “ and the socket got infected. All around dumbfuck.
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u/ineedshalp 3d ago
He was working as a gun instructor when he shot himself via dropping his gun. A2 safety first, yall!
But what i didnt know is that he was UNLV summa cum laude and got into yale AFTER the incident, which is honestly kind of inspiring, all things considered.
And he (25 at the time) married an 18 year old who he suggested to turn to ‘dancing’ to make ends meet, which might also be after the gun incident? They eventually had 6 kids (many that are outspoken adults now), and they escaped. He’s a divorcee like a lot of these right wing guys…
The ex-wife says “I am thrilled that he's finally facing justice.”
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u/rldogamusprime 3d ago
I fucking hate dudes like that. I don't like that those sorts of people insinuate themselves so heavily into 'manly' culture. Real men don't just not act like this. They're incapable of it.
He's obviously critically brain damaged. All of these people are fucking deranged. What is going on?
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u/Michael_G_Bordin 3d ago
What is going on?
Bitchass fuckheads who don't know what it means to be a man turn to other bitchass fuckheads who don't know what it means to be a man, creating this echo-chamber circlejerk of bad ideas. As a man in his early 30s, I constantly run into scared man-children who don't understand how I can be so secure and not constantly be measuring my masculinity against others.
My first advice to them: get advice on masculinity from feminists. There are aspects to toxic masculinity that are easy to parse, like value-dualism and value-hierarchy. If you can train yourself to stop viewing 'masculine' as 'good' and 'feminine' as 'bad', it goes a looooong way to deprogramming all the toxic bullshit us guys were taught.
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u/nicolauz 3d ago
It's real gross how these chuckle fucks act around people they think are like them. I definitely make a point to cut that shit out when they do, and they pucker up real quick with the Nazi bullshit.
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u/b0w3n 3d ago
Ah one of those "cleaning your ass is gay" racist incel types then?
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u/Gary-Fuckin-Oak 3d ago
It’s both funny and sad that people like that actually exist for real.
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u/Michael_G_Bordin 3d ago
It's fucking gross. People need to constantly remind them, they smell like shit. Not like a man, not manly, you smell like an unclean ass. Which is shit. Nobody likes the smell of shit.
It's an excessive attempt to utilize natural pheromones to attract women. They really need to know the golden rule of body scent (be that cologne or natural): your smell should be discovered, not announced. These shitty-butt morons announce everywhere they go that their ass is in fact shitty.
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u/Gary-Fuckin-Oak 3d ago
Oh, absolutely agree.
These machismo losers constantly wonder why they either can’t attract a woman, or wonder why they never stay long if they somehow do.
Like, bro. Natural pheromones =/= literal shit. It’s called waste for a reason. Wash yo ass, wash your balls, it’s not any gayer than jerking off. In fact, it’s less.
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u/JMoc1 3d ago
I had the unfortunate experience to listen to him on Knowledge Fight… yeeeeep.
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u/kkulkarn 3d ago
Did he really graduate from Yale law?
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u/__mud__ 3d ago
Bush Jr, too!
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u/DextrosKnight 3d ago
How do these schools maintain their good reputation when they seem to regularly spit out some of the worst people in the country?
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u/Jaxyl 3d ago edited 3d ago
Because their goals aren't about producing ethical members of society but productive and successful. While Desantis may be an evil piece of shit, he isn't stupid and he is 100% successful by most metric.
Edit: Yoo thanks for the RedditCares post! First time!
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u/RichardBreecher 3d ago
And he had followers!
Please got to know him and decided they wanted to do what he said they should do.
It's crazy.
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u/Daniiiiii 3d ago
Republican voters who support Trump and Florida Man support this behavior and this guy would get pardoned day 1 of their administration.
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u/PM-ME-FOR-CATNIP 3d ago
I hope that when the BOP does their pre-sentence investigation that they end up recommending he goes to a Maximum Security USP. But hell even if he gets sent to a Medium Security FCC, it's still going to be pretty rough for him in the beginning.
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u/Kahzgul 3d ago
Are you kidding? The Aryan Nation probably has shrines built to this clown.
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u/Krewtan 3d ago
You don't just get enrolled in Aryan gangs day 1. You usually have to do something that's going to keep you in there for life.
Or you know, you can always say no to them.
Federal medium/max is no joke, even if you're a nazi.
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u/Kahzgul 3d ago
I’m not saying he’d be automatically enrolled, but I am saying there’s people inside who are ideologically aligned with him.
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u/MadMasterMad 3d ago edited 3d ago
Is this not the most treasonous someone can be? 18 years seems light considering the punishments seem much more severe for "passive" acts of treason, like leaking government Intel. I think he's lucky to keep his life.
Edit: Some of you have been kind enough to inform me that word choices here are especially important. His crimes don't seem to be considered "treason" in the eyes of the law. I guess 18 years is a Just sentence within the parameters of the crim and law. It still seems short for what it was. There are very long term effects we're seeing and will continue to see because of January 6th and he holds a great deal of blame.
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u/Affectionate-Winner7 3d ago
The maximum is 25 years. Why the 7 year reduction.
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u/JordanLeDoux 3d ago
The maximum for a crime often ignore the sentencing guidelines that judges follow, which is a table with different ranges.
A judge can sentence outside the guidelines once all factors have been included, but the sentence is not presumed to be "fair" if it is outside the guidelines and can then be challenged under the "unusual punishment" clause in the constitution.
Likely the maximum was outside of the guidelines in this case because he doesn't have like 10 previous convictions. Criminal record is a huge factor in the sentencing guidelines.
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u/THATS_MY_CELIUM 3d ago
Cooperation. A founder of a domestic terrorist group has some information the feds would find at least moderately interesting.
Guarantee he spilled beans.
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u/Morat20 3d ago
There's a complex set of rules for determining punishment on a federal level, because they want it to be uniform across America.
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u/vankorgan 3d ago
Treason is a separate crime and requires coordination with an official enemy of the United States I believe.
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u/Alive_Ad9595 3d ago
Not as dumb as his lawyer:
A lawyer for Rhodes, who plans to appeal his conviction, said prosecutors are unfairly trying to make Rhodes “the face” of January 6. Attorney Phillip Linder told the judge that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote.
Your honor, my client has the connections to armed individuals who could have caused a lot more damage then he did, so you need to let him out of jail even though he literally just said he'll do the same thing in 2024...
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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 3d ago
No, this was all intentional. He shot his left eye to own the libs.
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u/HoopOnPoop 3d ago
Yes, officer, I know I was doing 120 in a school zone, but you should let me go because at least I didn't run over any children.
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u/JackedUpReadyToGo 3d ago
I love how idiots see the eye patch and think he must have lost it in battle or something. No, the fat oaf just dropped his gun and it went off. He's the kid from A Christmas Story ("You'll shoot your eye out!") except he was a grown adult when he did it.
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So he did shoot a terrorist..
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u/Divayth--Fyr 3d ago
And he has to wear the patch because he had a prosthetic eye, but he rarely cleans himself so it got all infected.
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u/VagrantShadow 3d ago
I'm certain he takes the eye patch as a badge of honor. He tries to use it to make himself feel cooler around others. He is an idiot and an asshole.
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u/Sorry_Cricket_6053 3d ago
Honestly if I have the options of a regular glass eye or an eyepatch...idk man, I'm taking the eyepatch.
Now if I could get some cool, themed prosthetic eyes, that's a different story.
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u/miked1be 3d ago
This dude chose the prosthetic but he never took it out to clean it so everything got infected and he has to wear the eyepatch now.
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u/Idiot_Savant_Tinker 3d ago
"Infected prosthetic eye" isn't something I would have ever thought about, but now I can't stop thinking about it.
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u/Jolttra 3d ago
A lot of these fake macho guys who want to look tough are obsessed with scars and injuries because they think it makes them look tough. A lot of high-ranking Nazis had these huge scars all over their faces, and people 5 they got them in some great battle or something like that. In reality, most were either caused by fensing matches or self-inflicted with the specific intent of making a scar. They would also pack the wounds with straw to make the scars bigger. Nazis then and now are all the same.
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u/fuckingonlyposts 3d ago
It's amazing how 20/20 vision doesn't seem to prevent people from making terrible decisions.
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In fairness, he only ever saw things from the right.
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u/PM-ME-FOR-CATNIP 3d ago
People that scroll through reddit posts without ever going to the comments sections seriously don't know what they're missing out on.
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u/frugalwater 3d ago
When Matt Gaetz was asked about the sentence he replied, “18 years is way too old. Long, I mean long.”
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u/IT_Chef 3d ago
Gonna spend likely the rest of his life behind bars for Donald fuckin' Trump of all people.
Astounding waste of one's life.
And for what? What was the end goal here? King Trump?
Idiot
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u/Tankmaster5000 3d ago
All I can think of, is they just wanted to feel important, because the end goal was always stupid.
Nothing in the country was making their lives hard. I doubt they even believe half the shit they "fight" for.
They just wanted a reason to have cosplay get togethers and act like GI Joe's because they're insecure losers.
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u/Striker654 3d ago
Blaming others for everything bad in your life so you don't have to own up to your own mistakes
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u/justiceboner34 3d ago
Their lives are pathetic and meaningless, and they know it. They want us all to suffer like they do. Bye bye Stewart
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u/dern_the_hermit 3d ago
Their lives are pathetic and meaningless, and they know it
This has been simmering for decades, too
“To see the Hell’s Angels as caretakers of the old ‘individualist’ tradition ‘that made this country great’ is only a painless way to get around seeing them for what they really are,” Thompson writes in that book, calling them “the first wave of a future that nothing in our history has prepared us to cope with. The Angels are prototypes. Their lack of education has not only rendered them completely useless in a highly technical economy, but it has also given them the leisure to cultivate a powerful resentment… and to translate it into a destructive cult which the mass media insists on portraying as a sort of isolated oddity” destined for extinction.
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u/jonproject 3d ago
Imagine throwing the remainder of your life away for Donald Trump. A guy who doesn't know your name, has no interest in helping you with these charges, and is very unlikely to have any real power again.
I almost feel sad for how these people nuked their existence for nothing.
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u/dizorkmage 3d ago
Read your comment and had to look, dude is 57 years old, guy straight up committed suicide for Donald Trump. Even if he lives to release, it's all over, no one will give a flying fuck about this guy in 18 years, no movie deal, no book signings, when the rest of his classmates are retiring this cyclops looking mother fucker gets to job hunt with a felony, cause who wouldn't want to hire a one-eyed convicted felon?
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u/anonymouswan1 3d ago
He's banking on Trump winning in 2024, as he and everyone else who has been convicted will be pardoned.
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u/Paddy_Tanninger 3d ago
Damn though where are they gonna get the $2M needed to buy a Trump/Giuliani pardon?
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u/tamman2000 3d ago
Sadly, a gofundme (or whatever that right wing christian version of it is) would find plenty of MAGA willing to chip in
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u/Nidcron 3d ago
They are hoping that's the case, but you know Trump doesn't like losers, so he'd probably say he'll get around to doing it, pay some lip service, and then only do it if he's forced into it somehow.
He'll probably just keep placating to the ones still out and able to do things rather than try and go through the "work" to give a pardon.
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u/FrankyBoyLeTank 3d ago
That was basically his defense. I didn't do anything seditious cause I was waiting for Donald to go martial law and then it wouldn't be seditious because it was no longer a democracy.
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u/smutproblem 3d ago
Sad?! Dude, I'm elated. Keep it coming! Too many of these traitors got off easily.
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u/ChooglinOnDown 3d ago
I almost feel sad for how these people nuked their existence for nothing.
Fuck them, they were trying to nuke our existence.
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u/ArugulaZ 3d ago
Scares the hell out of me knowing that nobody will actually put Trump in jail, and that he's likely to be a viable candidate for president in 2024. People say, "Oh, that could never happen again!," but they said that about him becoming president in the first place.
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u/cricket9818 3d ago
Yeah too many people around me already singing the “good thing it won’t happen again.”
I guess no one’s looking at polls. POS 100% gonna be the GOP nominee again
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u/SugarBeef 3d ago
They'll point out that nobody will vote for him over Biden, forgetting last time was far too close for comfort.
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u/BelCantoTenor 3d ago
Not me. It weeded out the herd of people who were opposed to a free democratic peaceful America. It pulled these dumb hicks out of their shanty towns and put them into jail. Know what you can’t do with a felony record? You can’t vote or own a firearm. This was the best thing that has happened to these people. It got them out of the way.
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u/TheMrGUnit 3d ago
Quick correction: in half of the states, released felons are allowed to vote immediately. In 3 of those states, they can actually vote while incarcerated.
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u/wild_quinine 3d ago
Controversially, I believe incarcerated prisoners should retain the right to vote. The social contract that says we can temporarily suspend human rights by incarcerating people becomes immoral if you then disenfranchise them. (Not to mention dangerous, because it incentivises it).
And honestly, if there are ever enough prisoners that they can swing a vote, you probably want them to be so empowered.
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u/hellomondays 3d ago
I thought atleast there must be a cool story behind the eye patch but it turns out he just shot his eye out when playing with a gun :
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u/Twerks4Jesus 3d ago
According to his ex wife it was during a drug deal.
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u/hellomondays 3d ago
The fact that he was doing something illicit at the time makes it a little less derpy, but still, what a derpy way to get the objectively coolest major injury.
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u/jx2002 3d ago
suuuure it was. "Drug deal" sounds so exciting, doesn't it? Versus "My dumb ass didn't know what I was doing."
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u/Starbucks__Lovers 3d ago
58 years old, so he'll be out at the age of 76. What a way to waste the last good years of your life.
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u/Atkena2578 3d ago
“What we absolutely cannot have is a group of citizens who -- because they did not like the outcome of an election, who did not believe the law was followed as it should be -- foment revolution,” Mehta said. “That is what you did.”
“I dare say Mr. Rhodes, and I never have said this to anyone I have sentenced, you pose an ongoing threat and peril to our democracy and the fabric of this country"
Wow this judge was the MVP all along!
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u/grimatongueworm 3d ago
Trump: eye patch guy? Never knew him. Very weak. Weak family man. Bad jeans.
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u/Prudent-Release9906 3d ago
When is Sir Lindsay going to face charges for trying to throw out valid ballots in GA?
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u/prailock 3d ago
In remarks before the judge handed down his sentence, Rhodes called himself a “political prisoner” and said his only crime is opposing those who are “destroying” the country.
He will never learn and very few if any of the Jan 6th terrorists will. They need to be removed from society either by jail or removal of citizenship. I know that you can't remove citizenship but I think that if you try to overthrow a government, are convicted of doing so, are on tape doing it, and brag about it for months, that you should be able to a part of that country ever again.
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u/SpaceCitySenior 3d ago
DeSantis came out today and said he was going to pardon any of them who he deemed "political prisoners." It's pretty clear that Rhodes and every single other J6 scumfuck are going to walk as soon as the GOP takes back the White House. The Dems would have to win the electoral college four or five times in a row to make sure Rhodes serves the full 18.
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u/workingtoward 3d ago
Pardoning people of seditious conspiracy seems like just more seditious conspiracy to me. These people are the true enemies of America and democracy.
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u/danbeardan 3d ago
Yeah uh, hello? Can't we prosecute based on these claims alone? "I will pardon all defectors" seems like a pretty heinous threat, it's like "hey overthrow the government for me and we can make a new paramilitary group called the Brown Boys or Trump Youth or something catchy you know?"
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u/blatantninja 3d ago
Disagree. They need to definitely win next year but by 2028, it will be old news that no one cares about outside a small minority
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u/LeagueOfficeFucks 3d ago
And besides, they will be too busy crying over the 2024 election being stolen.
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u/ksknksk 3d ago
Unless of course they actually manage to steal it, then all is fair in love and war right?
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u/jonathanrdt 3d ago
Unless there's yet another seditious incident (dont know what label to use). Domestic terrorism is being stoked in all ways with elections as a particular focus.
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u/ltreginaldbarklay 3d ago
Unless there's yet another seditious incident
If there's ever a 'next time', they need to be met by a hail of bullets from troops defending our democracy from domestic terrorism.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. – Thomas Jefferson
Any would-be Tyrants attempting to violently overthrow the results of a legal, democratic election by attacking our elected representatives, and those who are defending them, with the intent to kill, are volunteering to water that Tree of Liberty.
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u/KOBossy55 3d ago
The balls on this fucking guy.
He's completely insane and a traitor. May he die there of old age.
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u/__M-E-O-W__ 3d ago
I'd rather keep him locked in a cell rather than relocate him out of the country so he can't continue to recruit and spread propaganda from outside of our jurisdiction. Now we need to do the same to the politicians who support them.
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u/Prodigy195 3d ago
It's frustrating that he simply cannot point is ire at the people actually destroying America.
But by "destroying" he probably means "making it so that white heterosexual men can't say/do whatever they want without repercussions and have made is so that we no longer dominate all aspects of the economy and culture of America".
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u/dlc741 3d ago
"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"
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Looks like you can spell seditious with one eye.
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u/Rockstar42 3d ago
Fun fact he got that eye patch because he accidentally shot himself in the face when he was a firearms instructor in 1993.
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u/Igoos99 3d ago
This is the first sentence that even approaches the kind of punishments deserved for trying to overthrow the government!!!
I’m just continually shocked that selling marijuana or stealing stuff can get you locked up for longer.
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u/IOnlyReplyToIdiots42 3d ago
How many got life sentence for being in posession of weed. Nothing makes sense.
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u/daxelkurtz 3d ago edited 3d ago
Rhodes claims that he lost his eye during a secret mission for the army.
He lost his eye when he accidentally shot himself in the face.
During a class on firearm safety.
That he was teaching.
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u/rainorshinedogs 3d ago
Only.....18? There are people in jail for possession of weed pre weed legalization still in jail past that sentence
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u/TooManyPaws 3d ago
Defense lawyer Phillip Linder told the judge that prosecutors were unfairly trying to make Rhodes “the face” of Jan. 6, adding that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote. If you want to put a face on J6 (Jan. 6), you put it on Trump, right-wing media, politicians, all the people who spun that narrative,” Linder said.
I’m fine with that. But it doesn’t mean this guy isn’t ALSO culpable.
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u/Underwater_Structure 3d ago
Great news! It's interesting that conservatives were blaming and probably still are, BLM and Antifa, but we haven't seen anyone affiliated with those groups linked to January 6th.
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u/bonyponyride 3d ago
Who else coordinated this seditious conspiracy? All rhodes lead back to Trump.
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u/hateboss 3d ago
The whole reason it's difficult to pin Trump down for intentionally doing or coordinating in anything he does is because he speaks in Mob Boss language. "Gee, sure would be awful if this guy got whacked". That way, when one of his cronies take action, he always has plausible deniability. He can always claim that he never directed anyone to do anything, that he was just speaking extemporaneously, and that the individuals themselves are responsible for their own actions.
Of course any crony who heard him float that hypothetical, knows it's an order and they are going to take the initiative to meet that goal to curry favor with him.
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u/neuromorph 3d ago
"Proud boys. If you are listening. STAND DOWN AND STAND BY" -TRUMP
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u/johnnycyberpunk 3d ago
What's nice about this story is that Rhodes didn't even get a chance to make a plea.
Mark Grods, Graydon Young, and Jon Ryan Schaffer were just some of the Oath Keepers who secretly and quickly agreed to testify/snitch as witnesses against Rhodes in their plea deals.
Even if he had bigger fish to fry he was still facing major prison time.
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u/26MayDraculaDay 3d ago
Had a couple of Oath Keepers run me off the road when I was out riding my first bike. One rode up behind me, less than a foot away. The other pulled up beside me and yelled GET OFF THE ROAD into my face. I pulled into a nearby parking lot, called my husband to calm myself down, and immediately drove back home. Got rid of the bike soon after.
Those assholes are fucking dangerous, and there are a few too many of them in my area.
I really hope membership declines after this, and they go back to hiding their idiocy behind their own closed doors.
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u/AeonDisc 3d ago
Imagine spending 18 years in jail for dedicating your life to a spray tanned fascist.
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u/JJKingwolf 3d ago edited 3d ago
This is the big one. It sets a precedent for treatment of the oath keepers organization from this point forward, and potentially sets a standard for additional prosecution.
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u/Reimiro 3d ago
Founder of a terrorist militia group that attempted a coup. He’s lucky he received such a light sentence. A lot of places he’d be under the jail.
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u/ChadSurvivor 3d ago
Possibly the most important part of this was the sentence was enhanced because the crimes were terrorism related. That's not just academic or political. A federal judge has called them terrorists.