Since there seems to be a lot of confusion about the law in this thread, Fun fact! We didn't use to have these laws. As early as the 2000's you could very much still be sued for intervening and saving a person's life.
However, as expected, there were a lot of suits against medical professionals trying to do their jobs as well as civilians thinking they'd done the right thing, which resulted in a damned if you did, damned if you didn't situation regarding medical care. You could be sued for failing to save, and sued for saving. So in the US, there are now Duty to Save laws.
Duty to Save means if you are actively working (duty to Save does NOT apply if you are off the clock, not actively working) as a firefighter, EMS, nurse, doctor, career in which your contract puts you in a rescue position or similar you have the Duty to save, it is your responsibility to intervene and provide life saving assistance and you cannot be sued for it unless your actions result in permanent injury of the patient due to you being careless or making mistakes (Malpractice). An injury or disability resulting from the trauma they were treated for would not count for Malpractice, and Malpractice is extremely fact specific.
Duty to Save laws are very fact specific and can have certain stipulations or loopholes that are specific to your location/state but in general EMS/Firefighters. Etc can no longer be personally sued for saving the life of a suicidal person.
I learned about this during lifeguard training. The instructor made it very clear that if you weren’t on the clock you had to get consent to save them or wait for them to go unconscious so that you couldn’t be sued.
Imagine waiting next to a kid, waiting for them to pass out from choking on food, and only after helping them. I get why the law is there but I feel like they couldve done better
So DNRs can be tricky. In the event of a medical professional or rescuer, if you are conscious and can inform them of the DNR and its location(as they legally must see the order), or if you have a medical bracelette or something legally recognized as stating you have a DNR (last I knew tattoos were being debated) then, Then the rescuer cannot legally and should not attempt to save you.
If you are unconscious and there's no sign of a DNR, they must attempt to save or resuscitate you until you are brought to the hospital where the DNR should be on file or the DNR is presented to the rescuer on scene/during rescue attempts. Once presented all rescue efforts must be stopped. If efforts continue, the DNR holder if alive or family on their behalf may sue.
In the event of a civilian, if they know there is a DNR and still attempt rescue until a proper rescuer arrives, they can be sued. If they do not know there is a DNR and attempt rescue until a proper rescuer arrives, they cannot be sued as they would be protected under good Samaritan laws as it is not reasonable to expect them to check for a DNR.
Sorta. Technically you can make the lawsuit, but it's very unlikely you would win unless it qualifies for Malpractice or you can successfully argue your life is worse as a result of being saved and both can be extremely difficult to successfully sue for.
You’re really funny dude. Like seriously, through all the dorito dust and cum stains, you managed to make even stupider “sarcastic” comments. Fuck off, will you?
It’s a JOKE comment and your all getting high and mighty about it? You’re all a bunch of fucking imbeciles man get the fuck off my comment. 51 people thought it was funny, why do 51 people think it’s funny and you fucking morons have a problem with it and have to factually pick holes in it JESUS man. Is it because I said something bad about America and you’ve obviously pledged allegiance to it so this is you honouring that pledge? Lmao
Considering you used "do not catch me order" on a post about a woman jumping, yes for real.
Non intervention laws were genuinely a thing at one time, which equated to "Do not Catch" requirements due to liability and risk of lawsuits.
At one point in US history it was legitimately advised that you did not catch or otherwise attempt to physically restrain people attempting to jump in order to end their lives.
Hence the massive changes Duty to Save laws have created over time, allowing rescuers to actually save people without the risk of losing their jobs over it or facing lawsuits.
I’ve only read your top line both times so you might as well stop spamming shite. You’re a nightmare bro, it’s a joke about the guy getting sued lighten the fuck up you’re ruining my high
There’s DNR — do not resuscitate. It’s basically where the patient that’s already terminally ill signs a form saying that if they go Code Blue not to resuscitate them. At that point there’s typically already suffering a lot and death would be the kinder option
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u/AdoIfTickler Aug 13 '21 edited 28d ago
If that’s in America that poor firefighter is getting sued to fuckkkk