Aren't there already multiple movies called Conspiracy? Doesn't feel like a visual change to a word's spelling is better than making a new one, just muddies the water
This scared me. I mean I was always aware of how we are killing the planet but this explains it on another level. Like teatering on a knife edge scary.
The craziest part to me is how there is the whole organization that labels certain sea food as "sustainable," to make people feel like their purchases are helping to protect ocean life. But in reality the organization is doing absolutely nothing to enforce good fishing practices.
Redditors often don't open articles, so I'm going to post a snippet;
However, overall Seaspiracy does more harm than good. It takes the very serious issue of the devastating impact of industrial fisheries on life in the ocean and then undermines it with an avalanche of falsehoods. It also employs questionable interviewing techniques, uses anti-Asian tropes, and blames the ocean conservation community, i.e., the very NGOs trying to fix things, rather than the industrial companies actually causing the problem.
Most importantly, it twists the narrative about ocean destruction to support the idea that we — the Netflix subscribers of the world — can save ocean biodiversity by turning vegan. In doing so, Seaspiracy undermines its tremendous potential value: to persuade people to work together, and push for change in policy and rules that will rein in an industry which often breaks the law with impunity
Ok, but the people in the article you’re referencing are representing organizations the filmmaker is essentially calling fraudulent. I think who is questioning his credibility is pretty relevant, and from the article you cited, it’s the same organizations that he’s accusing of being highly misleading. Of course they are going to come out and disagree with him.
Do some research on your own. Many of the researchers they mention have come out and said they
Either cut footage to make things more dramatic, changed facts to fit the narrative, or just plain or lied about what they said. The documentary is bunk.
Yes they do, but it's not often they the scientists and researchers that assist inn the site come out and say that their connects, papers, etc were misused and misquoted.
Please don‘t forget that there is a billion dollar industry that does not like this documentary, and large parts of this industry are basically criminal. IIRC the spanish mafia controls a large part of the european fish supply. There have been voices before that tell the same story like this documentary, they were just less public.
Note again that negligent corporations do far more polluting than the average person, but they use their marketing to turn it back on just the people, when it should be the responsibility of everyone.
Not sure how you get to that conclusion. Obviously its always hard to judge the point of view and motives of the producers off of just one documentary, but I think it speaks for itself.
This doc isn't great. Google the controversy surrounding it and many of the people interviewed don't like how the doc presented them. I'm talking about the NGOs that have been fighting for the ocean for decades. Seasperacy is really a veiled ploy to try and argue that sustainable fishing is impossible and not consuming fish is the only viable method of protecting the ocean.
But sustainable fishing by definition IS IMPOSSIBLE and not consuming fish IS the only way to protect the ocean. How hard is it to understand that we literally have full fuckin research papers documenting what we've done to the ocean with fishing and our consumption. The more the population grows, the more people need to be fed, if we stopped eating animals (aka stopped breeding them forcefully into existence to murder them) and just ate plant based diets using the land currently used to make mass amounts of animal feed, we would do so much good for the survival of this planet. I'm sick and tired of people who ARE perfectly capable of surviving and thriving on a plant based diet making every fucking excuse in the world as to why "meat taste gud tho" or "what about this vitamin?" DO SOME DAMN RESEARCH AND SEE THAT ITS POSSIBLE AND YOU WONT SHRIVEL UP AND DIE. Fuck. Your life isn't worth more than the other animals on it and if you think so, then I hope you enjoy when the planet lights on fire for your future family down the line for what we've done to it.
Are you ignoring the large percentage of the world's population which relies on seafood for the majority of the protein in their diet?
If you are trying to pursuade Westerners to change up their diets and eat less (or no) meat and fish: I applaud you. But, if you are suggesting that the whole world just stops fishing and those that rely on it as a major part of their diet because they can't afford anything else: then I think you are mistaken.
I said that those WHO ARE capable, should change their diet, which means the only people who fit in the categories of not being able to are people with literally no supermarket access at all or those who are somehow medically not able to eat anything else (this far there is no medical reason to not be able to eat planet based". Beans, legumes, rice, vegetables, fruits, and nuts, etc are possibly some of the cheapest foods on the entire planet, so cost is not an argument. Meat costs more than plant foods and that's even after the meat industry has been handed massive subsidies. So basically, 95% of the world population has absolutely no excuse to not eat plant based. The other 5% wouldn't have to worry about their consumption if the 95% wasn't needlessly consuming how they do.
The general message of Seaspiracy is very important however be a bit wary of the facts it provides as some if it is incorrect/old/disproven... Such a shame that they didn't fact check better cause the message is important!!
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u/Steelio22 Aug 12 '21
If you are interested in this topic, take a look at the documentary Seaspiracy