Of course. There's the "absolutely zero planning" method he had with a national vaccine rollout. If he had been re-elected, I'm quite sure our death toll would be in the multiple millions instead of 600k.
Yes he saw “sunlight impedes” and “bleach kills” and then just started making a bunch of shit up. That’s all he’s ever done. No preparation, no plan, just get up there and start gabbing.
It did figure in, prominently. If you listen to the guy he trotted out there to say words supporting one of his previous bonehead theories, he mentions that isopropyl kills in as little as 30 seconds (I may be off about the 30 seconds, but it’s been a year since I watched that press conference 10 times). Trump never says which “disinfectant” specifically, but makes reference to one of the qualities mentioned about isopropyl alcohol when he says that dumb shit. It’s kinda something I’ve found annoying about “bleach” jokes as a detail guy.
It's hard to know because he's a con artist. That audio where he opens up to Bob Woodward he's on tape (and people in his circle confirmed) that he was terrified of the virus, the crowds, shaking hands at rallies. He says straight up that he knew it was gonna be terrible but he down played it to project strength and not scare people. His image was more important than the lives of his base. He just admits yeah I lied and down played it like it's nothing, while being recorded.
He said himself he could murder someone and his polls wouldn't go down, so he has nothing to lose and something to gain by signaling to even the most extreme elements of his party. Relatives who voted for trump simply laugh off those comments, but to the growing fringe lunatic base it's important. Just like defending nazis after Charlottesville and the neo nazi websites saying "he's our guy he backs us." Nothing to lose everything to gain.
He just tells his stupid base what they want to hear. And gives conflicting statements. So it's hard to know what he actually believes, but I suspect he thinks his supporters are gullible morons and beneath him. Doubt he'd even give them the time of a day let alone let them into Mar A Lago. They wouldn't even let you into his hotel in NYC dressed like most of his base.
He was a Democrat into the 2000s and donated to them as well as Planned Parenthood (maybe one of the few good things he's ever done lol). Considered Hillary Clinton a friend and she was in the front row at his wedding. He said she'd make a great president. Then suddenly switches parties when it's politically expedient. Doubt he just had an epiphany and changed his political position at that age overnight. Politics is theatre. He's just a grifter who found a disenfranchised base of morons and then just echoed their own ideas, read what they said online and repeated it back to them.
Edit: also if you look at my recent post you'll see a segment of his base were suggesting drinking bleach, UV light therapy, and hydroxychloroquine for everything...before covid.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/p3fi3k/_/h8rj6tu
I was on conspiracy boards for years before he was a candidate and hydroxychloroquine and quinine extract were very popular for every ailment under the sun. He went on Alex Jones and grabbed the "Ted Cruzs dad killed JFK" theory from conspiracy message boards. If nothing else he knows his base.
Yes he could have just looked at that board and was thinking out loud (that thing he calls speaking). He's dumb enough. But he also could have been signaling his base like he did with hydroxychloroquine, which was really popular on conspiracy sites that backed him. Lots of em on quinine extract or ordering pills of hydroxy long before he was running for president. After colloidal silver that was probably one of the most popular cure alls.
Yet trump didn't demand hydroxychloroquine when he got covid, took the antibody treatment before public approval trusting the doctors, and got the vaccine. Leading me to believe he really is afraid of the virus and went with the doctors and science over bleach and hydroxychloroquine. He's knowingly giving them deadly advice that they want to hear.
He was asking if there's a way we can do something inside the body to get rid of the virus.
That's literally what the vaccine is she be made sure it was good to go before no longer being president. Funny how you guys pretend only he is stupid and Biden isn't when Biden has said so much stupid shit that actually is just straight up stupid as fuck. Not taking a bit of it and making it seem like he was referring to something stupid. He just is stupid. Biden's also extremely racist and tried to bring back segregation. There are direct quotes from him that are disgusting and extremely racist. But he's s democrat now, so it's somehow fine
The thing about "Person man woman camera tv" is that he couldn't even pull 5 random words out of his head. He was naming things he could see. There's a person, he's a man, that one is a woman, there's a camera, it's a TV camera.
Random would be like "Puppy, cinnamon, Mars, blooming, apple."
He’s the kid who didn’t work on the project but is part of the presentation just reading off slides he never looked at until presentation time and doesn’t fully understand
Yep. Trump was fishing for something, anything, that he could say is a miracle cure for Covid. It's why he pushed so hard for hydroxychloroquine. Its why he suggested injecting sunlight and bleach. It's why the very next day from this moment, he stopped doing Covid briefings.
It really should have been the wake up call to the nation* that Trump was out of his league. He coasted the whole time solving problems that he started (or sometimes not solving them at all, they just fell out of the news cycle). But this was the first problem he faced that wasn't his own fault, and it was clear he had no clue what to do.
He probably was watching fox while advisers went over the presidential daily brief that included this information, and then ad libbed it to sound like he knew what was happening
No, these other responses are ignorant. There absolutely was an experimental treatment that Trump is referring to but the sheeple programmed to hate Trump can't see beyond what CNN tells them. I do concede that Trump didn't explain it very well, but this whole post is nothing but bullshit.
The sheeple? People were hospitalized following his advice.
Even if there was a legit treatment that he might have been referring to, it is insane that you think such a dangerous public statement is fine. You have to work really hard to defend it as not complete bullshit, and even if you’re right that’s like if he had stem cell treatments explained to him and then ADVISED THE COUNTRY HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR in the middle of a paralyzation epidemic, “eating babies will cure paralyzation. Sounds interesting right?”
Like please have the bar for president set higher than my 2nd grade book report.
Didn't he also exclaim something about medical professionals asking how he knew so much, how does he understand it so well. What a lying freaking moron.
What I imagine they actually asked was, “Where are you getting this information from?” As in, is someone telling you these stupid ideas or are you making them up from your own brain? So that if he had any self-reflection he could think about it. However, he in his infinite narcissism, took it as a compliment and that they were impressed by his “knowledge.”
Anti-intellectualism is more dangerous than covid. Saw a woman the other day out in the county wearing a shirt that said “fuck science”. Mind blowing that it’s come to this.
They may have, it is just that Trump probably has the inability to recognize sarcasm when it comes to statements that his narcissistic lizard brain thinks is a compliment.
“Stormy said it was amazing how quickly I came. Like no one else she had slept with had ever come quicker than me. She said it felt like I wasn’t even in there it was so fast. She called me her orange sexual ninja.”
I am still waiting to see if I develop natural knowledge of virology. I am doing this by osmosis. I will just absorb every virus and claim their wisdom. Im working on hep c now. Haven't learned much yet but we shall see.
Oh man there's a tweet from one of his "handlers" when he was on the apprentice about how he was so fucked up on benzos and Adderall they had to stop filming and someone had to change his diapers. This is definitely not a new development 🤣
Oh man that would be weird. Who would do that? Man what a weirdo. I'm glad I don't do that only he does that but no one else does that but him and not me.
Right? Like I would never, ever cup my hand under my butt & then quickly bring it to my nose to deeply inhale the hot burning scent of my own gas. I mean, yuck, right?
I too am glad that only he smells his own farts and definitely not me or anyone here on this Reddit thread. And not only do I not smell my own farts thankfully, but I would have to be some real fucking weirdo to get any enjoyment from the smell of my own farts. Wow, good thing I am not weird and Trump is the only one.
Everytime Trump said something completely ridiculous, the next day you'd have Sarah Huckabee or Barbie Mackenzie say "oh he was just joking lol or you misinterpreted it, you didn't actually believe him did you?" Uhh... well we're in the middle of a crisis, Barbie, should he be joking around on a daily basis?
He's just a complete jackwagon. Those are his real brainwaves.
Don't forget this gem:
“Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor
and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good
genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton
School of Finance, very good, very smart —you know, if
you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if,
like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m
one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s
true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they
try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start
off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there,
went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to
give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little
disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the
thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy,
and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is
powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many
years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he
would explain the power of what’s going to happen and
he was right—who would have thought?), but when you
look at what’s going on with the four prisoners—now it
used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and
even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger;
fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they
haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now
than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about
another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators,
the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just
I’m really fascinated by you people that believe this. There are 2 choices- either he has the brains of a man-child, or he is just constantly trolling everyone. Either way, why would you want someone like that in charge of anything?
When we were kids, to "get one over" on another, we were prone to saying such things as : "yeah, so what, I have a Dad/Uncle/Cousin/Friend who can XYZ !".
With Trump, it's all about him, even with outlandish and laughable claims, he's done it all, knows it all, is the best of all...
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
Jesus Christ. Like Sarah Cooper said, he's like that annoying character Fred Armisen used to do on SNL where he'd never finish a sentence and start a new one.
I used to work with a guy with a personality EXACTLY like Trump and it was one of the most infuriating experiences of my life. He'd seen it all and done it all. He used to be better than you at literally everything, but he got bored with it after mastering it and lost interest. He was never, ever wrong and if he was it was either because something changed or somebody lied to him.
He claimed to have been a "top 10 in the world" marathon runner when he was younger. He once told me that he has proven the fucking Theory of Relativity wrong, but refuses to publish his work because he doesn't want the fame and attention. (Worry not dear scientist who might be reading this, he has "left instructions for it to be published upon his death".) Anytime I had to talk to him at his desk he would have dozens and dozens of programs, Excel sheets, browser tabs, etc. open all at the same time and would insist that he was actively working in all of them at the same time, because he was a master multitasker too. He claimed to only sleep 2 hours a night and to prove it he would show up at the factory at several different times every night just to "check in".
I've never met anyone like him before or since and in my mind him and Trump are exactly alike. Because of my experiences I feel a great deal of pity for anyone who ever tried to work for Donald Trump who was actually there for the right reasons and wanted to do the job right.
See, I can imagine a situation where his narcissism makes him interpret things that way. eg. he says "Hey, someone told me injecting bleach would help", the doctor says "No, that's bullshit, who told you that?" and he takes it as "How do you know these things?" instead of criticism.
The actual quite made it sound like people were carefully questioning, "where did you hear that?" And saying, "no.... We hadn't thought about doing that."
"You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super genius. Dr. John Trump. I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this? ' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."
Yes, and he said that maybe he should have been a doctor, and that the doctors were all astonished that he knew so much about their field of expertise.
He did this at the CDC in March, and it was true. They were surprised that he knew it was quite deadly and infectious despite downplaying it publicly. He wanted to impress the experts, but they were horrified, which he described as "surprised".
I feel like there’s two possibilities: either he doesn’t give a shit about whether or not what he says is actually true or just something he’s making up or he’s so far up his own ass he thinks that if he says it it HAS to be true. Both IMO are equally possible and equally frightening.
Remember that cringeworthy cabinet meeting where they went one-by-one around the table to sing their praises to Trump?
It's actually possible that some of the more dubious "doctors" Trump was listening to were doing the same thing, which is why he would put/keep them on his advisory panel for the COVID-19 response.
Not only that but they will attack Biden, saying he’s “worse than trump” and then say “I’m not defending trump” in the same sentence 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Then you’re also a blithering imbecile. Trumps rambling nonsense contained dozens of errors and frequent inexplicable charges in subject that seems to indicate a deeply unwell mind
Too bad Joe is mentally unfit as well.
This is our planet and our time and with climate change it's not really an option to let the older gens continue to steer us off the cliff.
We don't have to live in the boxes we were born into.
They only think Trump is competent because of the Faux News/OANN/Newsmax echo chamber that played 15sec sound bytes on fucking repeat where Trump sounded only marginally insane and slightly incompetent rather than the usual gross incompetence and florid psychosis the rest of us have become accustomed to….
Oh geez, the TrumpChumps are projecting their innumerable inadequacies, shortcomings, moral failings, ethical lapses, and gods old fashioned inept incompetence onto those they seen as political rivals/betters yet again…
In one of his debates with Biden, he claimed he was joking. The dude was obviously not fucking joking. It's like a 4th grader who realizes he said something fucking moronic and then says "uh.. uh.. I was ugh.. I was joking guys! Jeez! You are so stupid to not know I was joking!...."
It’s so beyond politics. It’s like, you wouldn’t let a honey badger be president. You wouldn’t let a 7-year-old be president. Why is this even controversial?
Also later trying to cover for it by saying he was joking. Like, dickhead, we all saw it. You definitely weren't joking. And if you had been, which you obviously weren't, doing a stand-up routine like that with everyone sitting around questioning their life decisions still would have been fucking weird and irresponsible during that briefing.
Despite, or perhaps because of, that display of profound ignorance, he is STILL the leader of the Republican Party. They selected the person whom the felt best represented their ideals, and they nailed it.
I would have immediately shut off a movie if I heard this line. This is just crap writing and uninteresting, exaggerated, unbelievable plot development. Unfortunately, I couldn't shut off reality.
I mean..if you blasted the inside of someone’s body with UV radiation and then injected their lungs with bleach you would kill them horribly which means they wouldn’t have to worry about the COVID anymore so he was kinda right
It was at this point I lost all respect for Dr. Birx. She cringed but stood silent. She was a doctor. She didn't need that job as advisor. She could have won over the world by standing up and saying you're wrong. The fact that he wasn't taken out for therapy is still shocking. She was complicit, even if she changed her tune a year later.
The worst part to me is that there is way we can “do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning so it doesn’t get in the lungs and do a tremendous number”… it’s called a fucking vaccine!!!!
Non American here. Is that his actual words? How can he not form even a single coherent sentence. How can someone who can't form a simple sentence become a president???
My favorite part about that insanity was watching a trump bootlicker do an octuple backflip of mental gymnastics to claim that it made sense and that I was just too dumb to follow it, then posting his, "it was totally a joke lol I'm def not that dumb!" press release and calling them out on it.
Thanks. As much as I'm not a fan of Trump, I'm also not a fan of misleading and lies.
The number of headlines and people shouting "HE TOLD PEOPLE TO GO INJECT BLEACH!" is disheartening. It does nothing to help the "cause". There's enough bad shit in the truth that we don't need to embellish it with lies.
He says:
is there way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number. So it'd be interesting to check that so you're gonna have to use medical doctors
Emphasis mine.
What he said was stupid and still arguably damaging - but he's not telling anyone to go do anything. He's saying he heard one thing and he's pondering what that may mean and if we could test it further. And that we'd need doctors to do that. He's asking a question (to noone in particular - and obviously rhetorical). He later dismissed it as being a "sarcastic question" he was asking (to the reporters?).
There's nothing inherently wrong with him thinking that. The problem is that he's PUBLICY, OPENLY, and in a matter-of-fact way (the only way Trump knows) thinking it and saying it outloud in front of a microphone. As the president of the US. In other context, it may not matter, but here - well, the truth is most people are groomed to listen to the the President is saying as true(whether you agree or not) and that they've carefully thought out what their are going to say and speak about. That they've already researched and studied a bit before opening their mouths. Trump came in and tossed all that out - so now we can't just take the President as a speaker of authority. Instead, he's just a dude up there thinking out loud and is just as likely to be wrong and waay off in whatever he's about to say next. He's "just making a (mean spirited, bully) joke" and was just "asking a sarcastic question."(Great, now the world is left trying to decipher sarcasm from a guy who has the emotional range of a wet tubesock) And that's a huge blow to the stability of the country and the position of President.
So... he didn't actually suggest they were cures. It was exactly like I remember, and I still don't understand why people feel the need to lie to make him seem worse than he actually was.
It shouldn't. He didn't actually go to class. Essentially just paid to get his degrees. Too much of an egomaniac to ever listen to someone teach him anything.
Should definitely make you question their ethics handing out degrees like that though..
I'm not saying he's was promoting...wasn't actually very wrong"
This is how bullshiters thrive, all they need is someone to say "he's not that far off" for them to continue their bullshit. And next thing you know 100s of thousands of people are dead because 'he wasn't really that far off'.
The issue is this was a nationally televised statement by health experts about how people can fight the virus. Then, they had trump speaking this nonsense at the end. That is extremely damaging to the message intended before he spoke.
There is no reason for him to start brainstorming during live national television. Let the experts figure it out, don’t let your ego get in the way of that. Let them present the safety instructions.
I'm talking about a chink of light in a very dark room.
I'm very happy you guys got rid of him. As much as people hate to admit it, a stable USA acts as a anchor for the world. Biden doesn't look like the leader America deserves, but he does at least bring stability and normalcy for the rest of us.
Fair enough. However I think giving him the tiniest sliver of credit or assuming the best intentions of such a despicable and selfish person is absolutely pointless.
He rarely knew what the fuck he's talking about, his narcissism crippled him as an effective leader and uniter. I don't feel thats negative or unfair, its just what he deserves based on a lifetime of evidence.
Biden is ... fine. Predictably milquetoast in some ways, pragmatic in a way that is often frustrating, but actually open to a popular people-focused agenda in other ways. Absolutely the better option, even without accounting for the coalition he represents. The world is better for it.
They already do drink bleach though. Miracle Mineral Solution. It's not the same molecule found in household bleach, sodium hypochlorite, but instead a different bleaching agent, chlorine dioxide. Still kills.
The FDA has received reports of consumers who have suffered from severe vomiting, severe diarrhea, life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration, and acute liver failure after drinking these products. If you have had a negative reaction to any of them, consult a health care professional as soon as possible.
So on the up side, he doesn't appear to say people should inject themselves with bleach.
Yeah I hate Trump with a passion but he never actually said that. I used to get so much shit on this website for going against the "narrative"/circlejerk on that one. Everyone wanted it to be true so bad nobody on reddit actually cared if it was or wasn't. If you disrupted that bubble with the truth everyone got extremely upset and decided you are sticking up for him because you're a Trump supporter. Made no sense. In that particular instance "the left" was acting just as disingenuous as "the right" but they couldn't see the parallels. The obnoxious levels of bias on this website is out of control on both sides.
For the context that no one mentions, the expert before Trump spoke used the term "inject" in his study. Trump misunderstood...
"So, the virus is dying at a much more rapid pace just from exposure to higher temperatures and just from exposure to humidity. If you look at the fourth line, you inject the sunlight into that, you inject UV rays into that, the same effects on line two as 70 to 75 degrees with 80% humidity on the surface and look at line four but now you inject the sun, the half-life goes from six hours to two minutes. That’s how much of an impact UV rays has on the virus."
Yeah, "Someone else misspoke first, so how can you blame L'il Donnie for making a mistake?" Because he doesn't have the brains to know the difference?!
Seems awfully similar to the "both sides" argument. "The other side does bad things too, don't forget! So you shouldn't pay any attention to the bad stuff {I} do! Both sides are equally bad!
...oh yeah, by the way, go after the other guys for the lesser stuff!"
It's really hilarious how Madison Cawthorn was tweeting about how "we are living in 1984", in-reference to public health mandates relating to COVID.
Meanwhile they are in a cult-of-personality around Trump and nearly his entire presidency was an act of the GOP/right-wing talking heads telling us to not believe our eyes and ears when Trump says and does baffling and often criminal things.
Yeah these are actual technologies the intelligence community was looking over as a way to stop the world from ending. They are used in aquariums, pools, treatment of blood cancers, HIV therapy, dialysis (the kidney blood cleaning thing). The bleach thing was just him extrapolating. Its still amazing to me how he is so adept at keeping secrets.
Thank you for this, I’d forgotten what it was like to listen to his pressers.
Also, upon reflection, I find it sad that this is more intelligible than what I’ve heard from our current president of late. sigh
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u/DrinkingClorox 15d ago edited 11d ago
Good thing we didn't have Biden as president back then or we'd still be in complete lockdown.
Edit: Thanks for the awards