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52-year old ukrainian lady waiting for the Russians
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u/Spartan2470
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Here is a higher quality and less cropped version of this image. Per here:
ByKieren WilliamsNews Reporter 17:30, 25 Jan 2022
UPDATED17:42, 25 Jan 2022
Mariana Zhaglo is a marketing researcher and spent $1,300 (£963) on the rifle, after listening in on a conversation between soldiers about the best rifle to get.
The mum-of-three bought a Zbroyar Z-15 carbine, a hunting rifle by designation, but the 52-year-old did not buy it to shoot deers.
She told The Times : “As a mother I do not want my children to inherit Ukraine’s problems, or have these threats passed on to them. It is better that I deal with this now.
“If it comes to it then we will fight for Kiev; we will fight to protect our city.
If the fighting begins, they will come here. Kiev is a main target.”
Mariana lives in Kiev, a city known in Russia as ‘the mother of Russian cities’ - a moniker which reflects a reported belief that Ukraine and the surrounding areas near the Russian border rightfully belong to those in Moscow.
Alongside buying her rifle, Mariana, a member of Ukraine’s Territorial Defence Forces (TDF), had a silencer, bipod and telescopic sight fixed to the weapon.
The TDF is a voluntary unit of the Ukrainian armed forces.
She also bought a helmet, snow camouflage, flak jacket, ammunition pouches, boots and British army surplus uniform for $1,000.
The mum also went on a two-week sniper course.
Alongside her new gun, she told the Times she had stocked up on supplies and food including “lots and lots of ammunition”.
Mariana is far from the only Ukrainian taking up arms to protect her home.
Ordinary citizens have flocked to join the ranks of the TDF and receive military training as Vlaidimr Putin’s forces wait at the border....
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u/rmbl88 Jan 26 '22
I'm surprised the equipment is actually not that expensive
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u/lrrc49 Jan 26 '22
It’s heavily marked up for the consumer market here in the USA.
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u/PM_WORST_FART_STORY Jan 26 '22
It helps when you don't have GQP and doomsday preppers buying up the entire supply as soon as anything hits the shelf.
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u/azhillbilly Jan 26 '22
But I need 10 more rifles and 10k rounds of ammo to defend my apartment that's smack dab in the middle of a barren city. Also, will not be training to hike more than to the mailbox.
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u/tingly_legalos Jan 26 '22
Also will not be taking any courses or shoot more than 100 rounds a year for my training. My tacticool vest leaves over 65% of my blubber exposed and I'm a part of an organization but there's nothing really done except getting together with flags and taking pictures. I'm ready for anything except if the power goes out then I'll have to wait until they cut that back on so I can pack my stuff since it's just scattered randomly.
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u/zbeezle Jan 26 '22
To be fair, a plate carrier is only meant to cover your heart and some of your lungs. Its not supposed to make you a CODMW2 juggernaut, its just supposed to make sure they can't pop your aorta and pulmonary arteries/veins with one shot.
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u/SkullRunner Jan 26 '22
A plate carrier should also not have your body squashing out the sides of it like pasty white dough when you open a roll of Pillsbury crescent rolls incorrectly.
For that matter, the same person wearing the plate carrier should not consider Pillsbury crescent rolls an MRE.
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u/MooxiePooxie Jan 26 '22
Having worn the IOTV body armor with neck, groin, and shoulder protection in the Army, I would prefer the slick plate carrier every time...
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u/FakeTherapist Jan 26 '22
I'm ready for anything
except a pandemic. Definitely a zombie pandemic, tho.
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u/Dr_Gomer_Piles Jan 26 '22
There's a lot of argument down thread, but the reality is this is a domestic made weapon (Zbroyar Z-15) that she might have even purchased at a discount through her membership in a civilian defense force. There's nothing particularly complicated or expensive about making an AR style rifle. It was developed for production with 50's technology and metallurgy and many can and have built one in their garage. This price isn't really that shocking, especially considering the cost of labor outside the US, and most US manufacturers of AR style rifles could sell theirs for this cheap if they needed to, but the market allows (and perhaps even encourages) them to sell them for premium prices.
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u/thegrumpymechanic Jan 26 '22
"I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace." - Thomas Paine
Some things never change.
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u/Nice-Violinist-6395 Jan 26 '22
The only thing she failed to do was remain anonymous. Hopefully that won’t come back to bite her. Hopefully.
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u/Bravix Jan 26 '22
Tak* instead of Da, because she's Ukrainian in Kyiv (wait, is she? Or did someone just say that in a comment I read) who refuses to speak the invader's language 😉
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u/frappuccinoCoin Jan 26 '22
An AR costs less an an iPhone?!
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u/Abrahms_4 Jan 26 '22
With minimal effort you can build one yourself for 400 depending on the parts you get. It does call for some special tools, but they are reasonably priced. You might have to order a couple parts to keep the price down, but it is worth it.
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u/billy_hobo1 Jan 26 '22
Meh, you only even need the tools if you're building the upper. Considering the upper can be mail ordered, it's just as easy and just as cheap to buy a complete upper and a stripped lower. Then it's just plug and play no special tools required. Hell the hardest part is probably the trigger guard roll pins.
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u/Neuchacho Jan 26 '22
Guns are stupid simple machines compared to what goes into a device like a smart phone.
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u/zbeezle Jan 26 '22
On top of that, the first model of ar15 was built in, like, the late 50s or something. The first iPhone came out in 2007 and every new iteration has been significantly more complex.
We've had literally 60+ years to perfect the AR (and there really hasn't been that much new shit added to the basic design since its first iteration) and get the kinks out of manufacturing. On top of that, the patents expired like forever ago, so now everyone and their mother is in the AR game, and the excess of options drives the prices down on a lot of the lower tier stuff.
Also worth noting that today's prices are pretty high. Back in like 2017 you could pick up a full psa build kit for less than $400. It wouldn't be the best gun out their, but it'd work well enough.
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u/jocq Jan 26 '22
AR's don't have any parts measured in nanometers
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u/1JimboJones1 Jan 26 '22
Technically you can measure the parts in nanometers sooo
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u/fantasticjon Jan 26 '22
You can get a decent ar for $5-600.
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u/Mannaleemer Jan 26 '22
Bonus MBUS sights, that's a pretty good package deal. I built my first AR15 from a PSA lower and still love it today
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u/seranikas Jan 26 '22
The mum-of-three bought a Zbroyar Z-15 carbine, a hunting rifle by designation, but the 52-year-old did not buy it to shoot deers
That's because it's intended for hunting BEAR.
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u/MaxBonerstorm Jan 26 '22
You gotta be worried about BEAR.
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u/_Inkspots_ Jan 26 '22
Why is Ukraine becoming Tarkov irl
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u/nosomeeverybody Jan 26 '22
She is not fucking around and some Russian soldiers are fixing to find out
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u/torchboy1661 Jan 26 '22
Thing is...most, if not all, of the Russian soldiers don't actually care to find out.
They'd rather be home.
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Jan 26 '22
There's an old saying from the 60's: Imagine it's war, but nobody shows up.
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u/dirtdog22 Jan 26 '22
Almost like they’re people too
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u/npjprods Jan 26 '22 •
What might save us, me and you
Is if the Russians love their children too
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u/GonzoVeritas Jan 26 '22
Considering we made it through the dark days of the Cold War without nuking the planet, it appears to have saved us. So far.
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u/SICdrums Jan 27 '22
If the history of human warfare (I called it 300, 000 years) was 80 years long, we've had nukes for 6 days.
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u/LarkspurLaShea Jan 26 '22
Due to Russian demographics, most of the conscripts are likely to be the only son or only child.
Are Russian moms going make life hard for Putin once 5000 body bags per week start coming home?
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u/pantherbreach Jan 26 '22
Then Russian soldiers and their families should blame Putin if they die as a result of any Ukrainian's rightfully defending their home. Also, there are more Russian soldiers than Russian oligarchs.
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u/cityterrace Jan 26 '22
That’s eventually why the Soviets shave up in Afghanistan. Their people wanted to stop having their kids come back in body bags
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u/IWantToBolieve Jan 26 '22
Mariana lives in Kiev, a city known in Russia as ‘the mother of Russian cities’ - a moniker which reflects a reported belief that Ukraine and the surrounding areas near the Russian border rightfully belong to those in Moscow.
That's not what it reflects and has nothing to do with Russia. It's a quote from 882 fragment of "Tale of Bygone Years".
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u/_far-seeker_ Jan 26 '22
Most of the major Russian cities were originally founded centuries ago as colonies by the Kievan Rus, that's a historical fact. If that fact should have any bearing on modern geopolitics is what's debatable. 😉
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u/NutDraw Jan 26 '22
So what you're telling me is the modern Russian territory rightfully belongs to Ukraine? /s
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u/LikesBallsDeep Jan 26 '22
Yeah, there is a LOT more shared culture and history between Ukraine and Russia than the average commenter here comprehends.
This quote makes about as much sense as "Americans call their language English, reflecting their belief that America is part of the UK." Just.. wat?
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u/rafael-a
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She is so anti-russian that she’s using an AR instead of an AK
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u/Bushmanyyz Jan 26 '22
I noticed that as well! She’s got her priorities straight.
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u/KomodoJo3 Jan 26 '22 edited Apr 20 '22
According to another commenter, it’s aZ-15carbine specifically. She can fire more rounds than an AR10 and it’s lighter to carry as well. Smart choice, Ukrainian lady! (not trying to be sarcastic)
EDIT: Changed “15 carbine” to “Z-15 carbine” because people have rightfully pointed out to me that the former just sounds ridiculous. Sorry about that
I chose an AR10 for a comparison because the person who originally said it was a Z-15 carbine had someone saying that that’s what they thought it was in response, andu/Spartan2470’s post was top-level when I said this. Hope this amends everything addressed because the confusion I caused was definitely warranted
Thank you for understanding and have a great rest of your dayEDIT 2: Ignore what I said earlier. I made an ass out of myself pretending to know more than I do on this topic and I really should’ve known better to just not say anything. I am very sorry for spreading misinformation and I would like to apologize to everyone
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u/Low_Ad9634 Jan 26 '22
Casually chilling with a 3,000+ dollar gun w/attachments. Average ukrainian
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u/Shajirr Jan 26 '22 edited Jan 26 '22
article says she paid $1,300 for it
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ukrainian-mum-buys-huge-rifle-26047160
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u/bucephalus26 Jan 26 '22
That is quite a purchase based on average Ukraine salary.
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u/SelmaFudd Jan 26 '22 •
She is counting on getting some nice loot drops from the first few Russians
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u/_oh_gosh_ Jan 26 '22
If I really need to defend myself I am willing to spend one year savings, also it's not like the Russian will go away even if there is no invasion.
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u/RunningJay Jan 26 '22
Yeah, when it comes to an invading army I'm prob not going to be too concerned about my savings and investments in lieu of weapons.
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u/lubeinatube Jan 26 '22
That $40 amazon bipod though.
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u/GT540MGamer Jan 26 '22
Looks like a Harris, and if not a close copy. I deployed with a $40 UTG Pro bipod on my M4a1 and while the legs telescoped differently it was functionally identical to the Harris models used on the M14, M110, and M40A5 I also carried. It was only afterwards that I found out about UTG's reputation. The Harris is great but its formed sheet construction isn't exactly expensive. Not saying the copies are as durable but then again unless you're putting it on an MG or really loading into it at full extension you're unlikely to have issues. Of course Atlas and others would certainly have you think that anything sub $200 is wholly incapable of supporting half of a 7lb rifle.
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u/MeiNeedsMoreBuffs Jan 26 '22
I mean it's just a bipod, not exactly the world's most advanced technology so there's no reason to break the bank for it
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u/museolini Jan 26 '22 •
Our entire production line is cooled with liberal tears and our metal is forged from the fires generated by burning communist manifestos with a single bald eagle feather added for freedom. This is the kind of commitment that our competition just can't match.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NAIL_CLIP Jan 26 '22
God those commercials are so goofy.
Tired of a soft belt? No one likes it soft. You need a hard belt for carrying your big gun. You’re so cool. Buy our belt.
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u/Scruffy_Nerf_Hoarder Jan 26 '22
Wait, so you're telling me that if my AR barrel gets too hot, then I can just cry on it to cool it down?
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u/museolini Jan 26 '22
No! That will ruin the barrel. Common misconception. Can't be your OWN liberal tears. Has to be someone else's. Though you can completely share and support their political ideologies.
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u/Low_Ad9634 Jan 26 '22
The most important part on a rifle, the bipod
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u/Crozax Jan 26 '22
Here I was thinking it was the bullets
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u/jbsinger Jan 26 '22
The most important part is the Ukrainian woman who knows what she is doing.
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u/Noehk Jan 26 '22 edited Jan 26 '22
If it's a Zbroyar Z-15 you can apparently get it legally for $2090 + throw in 500 for silencer, (decent) sight and bipod: around 2500-3000.
Add in, according to the source, "$1,100 on a helmet, snow camouflage, flak jacket, ammo pouches, boots and a British army surplus uniform."
It's still a propaganda shot, the entire article is basically "Ukrainians are arming themselves bro, them Russians are in for a surprise..."
Can't wait to see the babushkas with top tactical gear.
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u/Aeronautix Jan 26 '22
saying this can shoot more rounds than an AR10 is a really odd comment.
its an AR15 variant..
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u/martann3 Jan 26 '22 •
The AR stands for Anti-Russian
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u/consenting3ntrails Jan 26 '22
The AR stands for Anti-Russian
This one trick gets Russians out fast!
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u/override367 Jan 26 '22
This just sears the words from some youtube analysis I saw saying "It would be a mistake for Russia to go into western Ukraine, the populace is..... not fond of them there, and they are better armed than the Afghans were during the Soviet/Afghan conflict"
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u/JefferyGoldberg Jan 26 '22
some youtube analysis
Reddit's geopolitical understanding in a nutshell.
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u/iammonkeyorsomething Jan 26 '22
The American government and media is calling it "lethal aid" lmao
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u/Killroywashere1981 Jan 26 '22
What are the gun laws in Ukraine?
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u/Nullcast Jan 26 '22 •
You are fine as long as you keep them pointed east.
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u/Decepticum Jan 26 '22 edited Jan 27 '22
This seems like a perfect representation of Scandinavian humor. Top quality comment.
Edit: For the geographically confused, please look up "Scandinavian Countries" on your preferred search engine before commenting.
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u/4GotMyFathersFace Jan 26 '22
Whatever gun laws they have at the moment are probably going to be overlooked for a while.
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u/Hakairoku Jan 26 '22
Ukraine is functioning like the GLA at this point minus the part of being terrorists
AK 47s, FOR EVERYONE
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u/theshiyal Jan 26 '22
After Crimea attitudes changed a bit if I recall correctly. This article is from 2015
https://qz.com/397525/photos-ukraine-civilians-firearms-right-to-bear-arms/amp/
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u/Cute_Explanation_550 Jan 26 '22
Everyone I've ever met from eastern Europe who emigrated to the US says we'd be crazy to give up our gun rights. It's only people who've never had it rough that think it's smart to get rid of them.
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u/onikzin Jan 26 '22
"Do you have a license for this weapon?" - "It's just for the Russians" - "Alright, we sell extra ammo if you need"
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u/crapic Jan 26 '22
forbidden, only hunting weapons with license, but there are a lot of uncontrolled weapons from Donbas conflict
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u/dbx99 Jan 26 '22
CIA give you present from America! Free stinger shoulder fired missiles for you!
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u/monapan Jan 26 '22
Mostly overlooked by the authorities since the last crime an conflict began. Unless you are a known Russian sympathiser that is
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u/hellidad Jan 26 '22
Tfw a middle-aged Ukrainian woman can afford a whisper pickle but not me
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u/naked-and-famous Jan 26 '22
I got an Instagram ad that was for a suppressor, but it lacked a final exit hole. It was marketed as a "solvent trap". Anyway, the prices were basically $75.
Nice try, BATF.
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u/hellidad Jan 26 '22
How’s your dog
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u/Bookislovakia Jan 26 '22
My dog Spoterite is very good at standing still just inside the front door.
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u/SirRolex Jan 26 '22
I believe you can make your own suppressor and form 1(?) It and get it all legal. It's bullshit you have to do it that way. But you can.
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u/BrockManstrong Jan 26 '22
I saw some on Amazon for 30 bucks marketed as custom threaded high flow oil filters.
Not falling for that one!
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u/HeloRising Jan 26 '22
Suppressors are depressingly cheap anywhere not in America.
Someone in a European country (I want to say Finland) a while back posted pictures of his collection and there were over a dozen suppressors. He laughed when everybody bugged out and said that suppressors were like $70 USD there because they were legal.
If you want the cost of suppressors to come down, get them off the NFA registry.
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u/UnsafestSpace Jan 26 '22
They’re actually mandatory in many European countries, that’s why they’re so widely available and cheap despite the strict gun regulations.
It’s about noise laws.
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u/no_talent_ass_clown Jan 26 '22
Plus a sniper course. She's not playing, she's dead fucking serious. Get some.
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u/armada127 Jan 26 '22
A lot less legal loopholes for whisper pickles over there. Whisper pickles here are only expensive because the market is artificially limited by the complicated process of getting one. You should just save up and get one though, waiting time is going to be tough so might as well get the paperwork in as early as you can.
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Jan 26 '22
I’m sure they don’t have a $200 tax and 9 month process for paperwork approval in Ukraine.
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All across the EU / Europe, which has some of the most rabidly pro gun control politicians in the universe, suppressors are seen as essential hearing protection and encouraged by licensing authorities.
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Jan 26 '22
I know. We mandate mufflers here but ban people from protecting hearing and reducing noise pollution.
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u/N3UROTOXIN Jan 26 '22
This makes me nervous. There’s a jar of honey or molasses or something like half off the counter.
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u/4GotMyFathersFace
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She ain't Putin up with anybody's shit.
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u/stereoscopic_ Jan 26 '22
I’ve heard of those training sessions, but they often ask you too many questions. I finally had to tell them, stop Russian me.
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u/Minneapolisveganaf
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Reddit trying to decide if armed citizenry is good or not.
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u/cjlutera Jan 27 '22 •
If this was a picture of a USA civilian it would be bad and never hit the front page. Or it would hit the front page due to people criticising them. But it's ok if it's a foreign nation defending themselves. Zero understanding of why the second amendment exists.
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u/CelestialDreamss
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I know we're supposed to be like "ooh, old Ukranian lady is so badass," but this just makes me feel worse that this is the state of the world.
No person should ever have to do something like this, and this isn't something we should be in awe at. This is something we ought to be disappointed in that it must be this way.
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u/SeaUrchinSalad Jan 26 '22 •
Yea sure but in the face of an overwhelmingly disappointing modern humanity, I'm going to celebrate those individuals that actually fight for a better future
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u/Matt_Rhodes93 Jan 26 '22
This is the answer. No one WANTS war, death or conflict. But it's not practical, it happens.
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u/ConvexFever5 Jan 26 '22
People willing to fight for their freedom are always something to be celebrated.
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u/Sertorius777 Jan 26 '22
This has always been the state of the world. You don't have to go back too many decades in history books to lose all your trust in the better side of human nature prevailing over anything
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u/GEAUXUL Jan 26 '22 •
Actually, the past “state of the world” was dramatically more violent than it is today. We’ve never lived in a time with less war, murder, and violence. And while we’re at it, I’ll also mention that we’ve also made astronomical gains in fighting poverty, curing illnesses, extending lifespans, and reducing prejudice just to name a few.
Humanity is obviously far from perfect, but considering that we evolved from primates, we have come an incredibly long way.
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u/anothermonth Jan 26 '22
We’ve never lived in a time with less war, murder, and violence.
Yeah, but Ukrainians have. Been a while though.
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u/GonzoVeritas Jan 26 '22
100%. I've spent decades reading history and right now, with all its flaws, is still a very good time to be alive.
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u/thediesel26 Jan 26 '22
Yeah. People really lack perspective on this type of thing. Pre-WWII, the world was a much more dangerous place.
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u/AnOnlineHandle Jan 26 '22 edited Jan 26 '22
My only hope for this is that it might somehow reach a few Russian soldiers and foment dissent about marching into somebody else's home, both because it reminds them that it's genuinely dangerous and makes them question if they really want to go kill women in their 50s.
Though given human history I doubt the humanity or self-preservation of soldiers will kick in as they march on the orders of the wealthy who will discard them when no longer useful.
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u/jwfallinker Jan 26 '22
Foment, not ferment. Ferment is what you do to grapes to make wine
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u/bota8940 Jan 26 '22
If it makes you feel better this has been the way for all of mankind’s existence throughout the entire world. Nobody has ancestors who weren’t aggressors at some point in history. Recent examples off the top of my head: The Bosnian War about 30 years ago. Somali Civil War about 30 years ago.
Syrian Civil War still ongoing (and forgotten it seems)There will always be people like the lady depicted in the article caught in the middle. I think a case study of Herzegovina during the Bosnian War would have a lot of people understand her position and fears.
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u/Obie-two Jan 26 '22
but this just makes me feel worse that this is the state of the world.
The state of the world has been massively worse than this and has never been better. This is the reality of the world.
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u/Mgiwar
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Only this is Kiev. And no one will go there. We have been living in Donetsk under shelling for 8 years now. And they shoot every day. And now we are again being scared that they will shoot. Dad was killed here. We were not provided with medical care and were deliberately infected with the coronavirus. A rich military man robbed us here and stole grandfather's medals. Another military family cut off our water. And they extorted money from us. The military man hit my mother and she had a huge bruise on her arm. At work the second where they infected us, we were directly told that we were slaves. And I couldn't take my mom to the hospital. If hostilities begin, I will only shoot at us. As for 8 years, fighting has only been near our homes, and we are like a human shield and hostage slaves. Near me people were killed by shelling. I have a post where I posted shelling recently. I'm trying now to grow seedlings of flowers and leave. But I'm afraid they'll just kill us. If I had the chance, I would have left earlier. Although I never thought of leaving my land before. But now, after all that they did to us, I generally wanted to apply for political asylum. Because here they threatened us with violence that they would kill us. And they rob all the time. But this is that we were specially infected with the coronavirus and then they refused to treat it .. Because of this, we have very strong complications with my mother. So far she has been able to walk very little. But she's already started walking. But the big complications on the heart are that the pulse is higher than 144 beats. And we modicum and found other doctors. Until now, they do not know what happened to her and why. Medicine is terrible. I also have complications due to the fact that they refused medical care after the coronavirus. It's been 4 months since I got sick. And we still go to hospitals. There is almost no money left. And now, if they start shooting a little harder than they shoot every day ... Yes, even tired of the fact that they constantly frighten us with shelling. Now we are even told by others to go to another part of the city. Do we have money to move? I do not know. This is my last investment in flower seedlings. If we get fired again. I'm afraid we'll be killed sooner. But even if there is damage, the seedlings will disappear and we will have nothing to live for. And we still do not know how much money will be spent on medicines. We have already sold even my father's car and we have no way of delivering seedlings of flowers. Mom is already very worried about the death of dad. And now, after the coronavirus, she has heart complications, coronary heart disease and pericarditis. And these sounds of exploding shells nearby do not have a very good effect on health. I hope I can grow plants and we will have something to buy food and medicine for. And I hope we can get out of this terrible place.
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u/ShouldHaveGoneToUCC Jan 26 '22
I looked through your profile as well. It's such a strange mix of the depressing reality of living in a warzone combined with your joy in raising beautiful flowers.
I really hope you get through this dude. Much love from Ireland.
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u/danespltd Jan 26 '22
Holy crap. I'm so sorry you're in that situation. The fuck is wrong with this world...
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u/J_da Jan 26 '22
I hope you will be ok. I checked your profile and I feel for you. I am sorry you have to go through this.
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u/Mgiwar Jan 26 '22
Yes, now is not the best time for us. shelling. intimidation with this that they will shoot more. The main thing for me is that my mother is cured now. And that they would let me grow seedlings of flowers. And I'll try to get her out of here somehow. And then she can’t worry now because of heart disease.Thanks for your words. I try to believe in karma and wishes. It brings hope.
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u/Kingslayerreddit Jan 26 '22
Please be careful and i hope you get out of there with your mom. Watch out for her.
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u/Mgiwar Jan 26 '22
Yes, I'm trying. I learned how to cook a few months after she was released from the hospital. I was able to feed her at least a little after the hospital. She even started walking. She is being taken back to the hospital. Hopefully the holter will figure out what the problem with the high heart rate is. I am pleased when good wishes are given to us. 'Cause I think they powerful.
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u/Ad_Ketchum Jan 26 '22
You are a very brave person, brother. I wish for you to stay strong. I will pray to God for you and your family to find a way out of this situation.
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u/Kingslayerreddit Jan 26 '22
They are, because we really wish for you and your mom to be better. Keep learning to cook new things to distract you from the shooting.
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u/AnabolicExonaut Jan 26 '22
The number of jokes under this picture of a civilian having to pay out of pocket for partisan warfare gear because of sheer apparent necessity is staggeringly depressing to me, and would be even if I weren't Ukrainian.
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u/BakeliteBayonet Jan 26 '22
Nobody wants this fucking war to happen.
edit: except for the terrorists in Eastern Ukraine since 2014.
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u/AugTheViking Jan 27 '22
Ukrainian civilians putting up a better fight than the Afghan military.
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u/kingabdullah Jan 26 '22
I saw that this woman is part of the Territorial Defense Forces and trains regularly to help support the armed forces in the event of further Russian invasion. It's very impressive to see Ukrainians from all walks of life standing up to protect their lands. I wish them the best.
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u/Gun-nut0508
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Anyone who’s Anti gun now sees why gun rights among citizens are important
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u/Balogna-Mangione
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"GUNS IN AMERICA ARE USELESS. YOU aReN't GoInG tO sToP a TaNk wItH yOuR Ar-15!"
ALSO REDDIT
"OMG OMG OMG. UKRAIN CITIZENS ARE GOING TO STOP RUSSIA! YAAAAAASSSSS QWEEEEEEN!!!"
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u/ApexxPredditor Jan 26 '22
Guns for the people I agree with! No guns for people who think differently than me!
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u/ShivasKratom3 Jan 27 '22
Redditors have no backbone and just jump to whatever they are told to believe daily
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u/WaynegoSMASH728 Jan 27 '22
I was about to say something similar. If this were an American lady trying to protect herself from whatever she fears, reddit would be trying to crucify her. Make her a foreign woman that is trying to protect herself from what she fears, she's heroic.
It's a simple case of it shouldn't be allowed where I live more than it is a case of rights. They just won't speak the truth.
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u/theguyonthething Jan 26 '22
teen daughter walks in
"Ugh! Mom, what the fuck! You're so weird!"
mom, adjusting the scope
"The Russians are due any day now, sweetie. There's a glock for you on your dresser, and don't touch your brother's RPG."
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u/mv1630 Jan 26 '22 •
Judging by the spices on the counter she’s about to run out of nutmeg