I want to see them denied insurance coverage for their medical care. If they're knowingly going to do something stupid, then insurance should be able to just say nope! Once they get saddled with the mountains of debt for being moronic idiots, it'll just be some sweet, sweet justice.
Just about all insurance policies charge a premium for smokers. The way I see it someone without up to date vaccines should pay a steep premium as well.
This world be the free market solution. And I agree. You don't have to get vaccinated--but if you're going to play pErSoNaL rEsPoNsiBiLiTy, you should be personally responsible, in fully legal and financial ways.
Medicare and medicaid is going bankrupt. People are losing everything. Hospitals are suing patients and taking everything. They are for profit. Debtors court is working against them.
Yeah I don't have a lot of empathy for these people and I think blaming them and trying to hold them to account is fair but at the end of the day they're human beings with family's and friends and people who will miss them. Also, most of them have been deeply misled by a very well funded propaganda machine. Some of these folks never had a chance.
What bothers me about all this isn't when people shrug their shoulders about it (I understand that reaction; we are all tired), it is the sheer amount of glee I am beginning to see on the internet about this. Its beginning to be a bit disturbing.
they don't. They don't have good medical care compared to places like Canada. Many of their lives have been completely destroyed by not being able to afford simple medical tests, not even surgery. Immigrants with dual citizenship or rich people can easily fly to places like Israel to get cheap healthcare and they do. Americans that have only american citizenship are sometimes fucked. Often they just die because death is their only choice.
So are you really saying we americans can't give our own citizens some basic human decency? Are you calling all of America basically completely immoral and complete evil pieces of shit for expecting poor people to help their families by getting a vaccine when we have watched their families die and we refused to help them for decades?
You are completely wrong. We are good people. We are not hypocrites.
I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying, I’m saying everyone on America deserves to not be turned away by a doctor like some of the other commenters have said
I don’t like how some people refuse vaccines that benefit them, some are free. I grew up on harder circumstances, I got vaccines from time to time
Trust me, I’m American, I don’t hate any of my fellow countrymen
Me and you have the same viewpoint, I think you’re just misunderstanding what I’m saying
many of them don't have insurance. Part of that is my fault. I never vote for politicians that strongly support universal healthcare. I've been voting this way for decades.
I've been watching them die for decades. I work in healthcare. Some of them can't afford medicine. Some of my rich friends fly to Israel and get cheap healthcare. I refuse to help them and their family by voting for people like Bernie. But I want them to help my family by getting the vaccine.
I don't think that means I'm selfish. I just expect them to help me, even though I will never help them.
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