The thing is these people love to argue what about the possible long terms effects but vaccines are short lived in your system. Most vaccines show symptoms within the first month if at all. Even if these vaccines are not fully approved yet, there has been more testing done in them in this short period of time than a lot of other approved vaccines.
Covid gave me long term negative effects. I'm 21 and I used to be healthy. I used to play trumpet and prided myself on my lung capacity. Now it's hard to go up more than one flight of stairs and move ~25 lb boxes for my job. What long term effects is anyone even scared of with the vaccine?? We KNOW covid can (and normally does) give long term issues.
My uncle refused the vaccine and was on a ventilator for months. At one point my family celebrated the fact that he had recovered enough that he could blink to communicate with nurses. He can't use the second floor in his house now. He can't leave the house alone. He can barely get down the three steps to the driveway. How is that less scary than whatever a vaccine may do?
This!! These folks are terrified of some nebulous possibility of long term effects from the vaccine, but ignore the confirmed *, serious risk of long term effects from the *virus.
Saw a great meme on this "this bridge is only 99.999% safe, so I think I'll swim".
I am okay now. It really hasn't affected my daily life that much. It sucks that I have to take breathers after going up stairs or moving heavy things but it could be worse. I can do long walks and normal everyday stuff good enough, things like running and swimming can be difficult. I think I'll be able to build back up to normal.
It scared me a lot though. I didn't think it would have long term affects for me because I rarely get sick and had strong lungs. I am really lucky!
What’s more terrifying to me is the still unknown after math of actually getting covid, we’ve seen serious complications already and I worry down the line how those complications will differ or potentially worsen.
People stormed Omaha beach for what they believed in, died for the country, and yet people don’t have the wherewithal to take a vaccine. I’m tired of “scary”, life is fucking scary man. We are living on a ball of rock flinging around a ball of fire, in an unfathomable darkness. We are facing a climate apocalypse. Everyone dies and what happens after is unknown. No one really knows why we are here or why anything exists at all. We have to fight and take risks to survive in this universe, because the universe does not give a fuck if we live or die. Life isn’t scary, it’s an existential horror show. Having to take a vaccine should be the least of anyone’s concerns. But many people are closed minded and see life in terms of the status quo. The status quo is changing, and will continue to change as the climate crisis worsens and Covid continues to evolve using our inherent selfishness as an evolutionary advantage over us, its prey. We are allowing and encouraging the virus to evolve.
Everyone getting shots would be the best chance we have, regardless if it’s scary or not
I’m double vaccinated, I’m not scared of the vaccine I was saying I’m scared of the long term effects of actual covid. The world is fucked so why add on to it with potential life threatening complications.
I hear you, I figured that’s what you meant but the “I’m scared” sentiment is one I hear so often and I’m just like, yes, fear is a rational response to the horror that is this life. We have good reasons to be afraid. The illusion of rainbows should be long worn off by now yet there’s so many closed minds out there who assume things will just be okay and be normal if we all pretend they will be.
Amen. I'm 25 and I love being outside and exercising. If I got long term effects of covid I'd honestly probably consider suicide. Some of the only things in life that bring me true joy, that make me happiest and feel best, require me to have working lungs.
I do wonder if the people who insist on conspiracy theories are attracted to the premise of conspiracy theory more so than its content, the premise being: “at least someone is in charge/control.” To truly accept the “existential horror show” where no one is in charge and no one is in full control to be the Reality, one must have certain level of mental strength and flexibility to break away from the conventional narratives we were fed since childhood (good vs bad; us vs them; respecting the authority figures, and more), also from the projection of parent-fantasy in the form of all knowing all protecting God who is in control. And it seems believing a simpler story is more appealing for many people. I am not trying to act superior or more enlightened. I just feel sad sometimes. Sometimes I wonder having unreliable parents, growing up in abusive environment, and learning how to live my life without guidance helped me to realize early on that no one knows what the fuck they are doing, people at their worst can be pretty fucking horrible-and most importantly that people you cherish we must love and care with abandon because who the fuck knows what happens tomorrow.
Thanks for reading this long winded reply. Hope we—as in humanity and all living beings—all make through this confusing time as well as we can. Take care.
The thing is, 9/10 the unvaccinated believe the masks and vaccines are the "real' weapon. That covid isn't even a threat due to 99% survival rate. They literally skip over the fact that the virus alters your cellular structure causing a disease while hyperfocusing on the fact that mRNA vaccines have genetic material. They subscribe to the insane conservative conspiracy theories born from Behold a Pale Horse where they think the situation is a catalyst for the New World Order. While most don't give two shits about climate change which affects every human being on Earth.
It's so insane. I work in a hospital where people in the OR are spewing conspiracies and protesting the mandate with the ugliest sense of self superiority. While I got vaccinated in May. They're talking about walking out to leave places short staffed, while a few months back they were all bitching about unemployed people. It's all a distracting from the horrid corruption of the GOP.
My understanding is that SARS-Cov2 replicates using your body's cells, that replication leaves behind a disease called COVID-19. It's the body's immune response looking for the virus causing a "cytokin storm" but by the time it figures out what the novelty virus is, it begins attacking the diseased tissue, which is actually your lungs or heart, or whatever damaged tissue that remains. Which is what ends up hospitalizing even healthy people, and why it's hard to predict how it will affect everyone.
Anyone more educated please correct me if I'm wrong!
Man, if there's one thing dystopian movies taught me, it's that the Big Brother overlords love it when their subjects wear masks so they can't tell any of them apart. I remember in V for Vendetta when the rebels all put on masks and it was all according to the big villain's plan because covering your face is just what a hyper-controlling regime wants, they love that.
One long term effect is those people with long term effects getting absolutely destroyed by medical costs. So, if they don't want to get a shot, have fun with those bills.
Seriously! What’s worse? The potential long term affects of the vaccine that haven’t been proven to exist? Or permanently damaged lungs from being sick with covid? For me, I’d rather not have damaged lungs the rest of my life.
The mRNA vaccine just tells your immune system what to do when they see a covid virus (e.g. beat it up and take its lunch money). And then it goes away. I do understand hesitancy when they inject a dead virus into your body, like the flu vaccines, but this vaccine isn't that.
And the technology has been around for a while. Here's a good analogy.
There's a bunch of .22 caliber revolvers floating around, loaded, with the hammers cocked. What can we do? Let's build a little pillow that fits over the firing pin, and prevents it from discharging the bullet. So we take measurements, and design the pillow, and it works.
Later, someone discovers completely different guns floating around. These are .38 caliber Smith & Wessons. So we take measurements, and use the same manufacturing process to make pillows for these revolvers. And it works.
So now we know how to make pillows that fit on revolver hammers. We try it out on several different guns, and refine the manufacturing process.
Then Covid hits, and because we've been studying the process to make an mRNA vaccine, we're able to get it into production at record numbers and in record time. It's not some brand-new experimental process...it's the result of decades of research and refinement. But try to explain that to an idiot.
These people think that the vaccine is randomly going to kill you or give you side-effects YEARS later. Like you will randomly have a heart attack in 15 years because you got the vaccine. I can't do it anymore. I am so tired of people not trusting basic science. Fuck em.
Want to know what the long term effects of Covid lung damage are? Pretty fucking substantial. Many of the survivors of Covid will be struggling to breath at full capacity for the rest of their shortened lives. What do you wager the worst possible outcome of a proven technology might be?
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u/skalidindi 17d ago
The thing is these people love to argue what about the possible long terms effects but vaccines are short lived in your system. Most vaccines show symptoms within the first month if at all. Even if these vaccines are not fully approved yet, there has been more testing done in them in this short period of time than a lot of other approved vaccines.