r/politics 17d ago

It's OK to blame the unvaccinated — they are robbing the rest of us of our freedoms

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/12/its-ok-to-blame-the-unvaccinated--they-are-robbing-the-rest-of-us-of-our-freedoms/
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u/miggle_93 17d ago

What’s more terrifying to me is the still unknown after math of actually getting covid, we’ve seen serious complications already and I worry down the line how those complications will differ or potentially worsen.

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u/psych0act1ve 16d ago

People stormed Omaha beach for what they believed in, died for the country, and yet people don’t have the wherewithal to take a vaccine. I’m tired of “scary”, life is fucking scary man. We are living on a ball of rock flinging around a ball of fire, in an unfathomable darkness. We are facing a climate apocalypse. Everyone dies and what happens after is unknown. No one really knows why we are here or why anything exists at all. We have to fight and take risks to survive in this universe, because the universe does not give a fuck if we live or die. Life isn’t scary, it’s an existential horror show. Having to take a vaccine should be the least of anyone’s concerns. But many people are closed minded and see life in terms of the status quo. The status quo is changing, and will continue to change as the climate crisis worsens and Covid continues to evolve using our inherent selfishness as an evolutionary advantage over us, its prey. We are allowing and encouraging the virus to evolve.

Everyone getting shots would be the best chance we have, regardless if it’s scary or not

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u/miggle_93 16d ago

I’m double vaccinated, I’m not scared of the vaccine I was saying I’m scared of the long term effects of actual covid. The world is fucked so why add on to it with potential life threatening complications.

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u/psych0act1ve 16d ago

I hear you, I figured that’s what you meant but the “I’m scared” sentiment is one I hear so often and I’m just like, yes, fear is a rational response to the horror that is this life. We have good reasons to be afraid. The illusion of rainbows should be long worn off by now yet there’s so many closed minds out there who assume things will just be okay and be normal if we all pretend they will be.

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u/AllOfTheDerp 16d ago

Amen. I'm 25 and I love being outside and exercising. If I got long term effects of covid I'd honestly probably consider suicide. Some of the only things in life that bring me true joy, that make me happiest and feel best, require me to have working lungs.

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u/erasethenoise Maryland 16d ago

What does double vaccinated mean?

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u/dustytushy 16d ago edited 16d ago

Thanks for this heartfelt comment, psych0act1ve.

I do wonder if the people who insist on conspiracy theories are attracted to the premise of conspiracy theory more so than its content, the premise being: “at least someone is in charge/control.” To truly accept the “existential horror show” where no one is in charge and no one is in full control to be the Reality, one must have certain level of mental strength and flexibility to break away from the conventional narratives we were fed since childhood (good vs bad; us vs them; respecting the authority figures, and more), also from the projection of parent-fantasy in the form of all knowing all protecting God who is in control. And it seems believing a simpler story is more appealing for many people. I am not trying to act superior or more enlightened. I just feel sad sometimes. Sometimes I wonder having unreliable parents, growing up in abusive environment, and learning how to live my life without guidance helped me to realize early on that no one knows what the fuck they are doing, people at their worst can be pretty fucking horrible-and most importantly that people you cherish we must love and care with abandon because who the fuck knows what happens tomorrow.

Thanks for reading this long winded reply. Hope we—as in humanity and all living beings—all make through this confusing time as well as we can. Take care.

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u/resonantedomain 16d ago

The thing is, 9/10 the unvaccinated believe the masks and vaccines are the "real' weapon. That covid isn't even a threat due to 99% survival rate. They literally skip over the fact that the virus alters your cellular structure causing a disease while hyperfocusing on the fact that mRNA vaccines have genetic material. They subscribe to the insane conservative conspiracy theories born from Behold a Pale Horse where they think the situation is a catalyst for the New World Order. While most don't give two shits about climate change which affects every human being on Earth.

It's so insane. I work in a hospital where people in the OR are spewing conspiracies and protesting the mandate with the ugliest sense of self superiority. While I got vaccinated in May. They're talking about walking out to leave places short staffed, while a few months back they were all bitching about unemployed people. It's all a distracting from the horrid corruption of the GOP.

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u/NashvilleHot 16d ago

Not sure what you mean about COVID altering your cellular structure? Haven’t heard that before.

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u/resonantedomain 16d ago

My understanding is that SARS-Cov2 replicates using your body's cells, that replication leaves behind a disease called COVID-19. It's the body's immune response looking for the virus causing a "cytokin storm" but by the time it figures out what the novelty virus is, it begins attacking the diseased tissue, which is actually your lungs or heart, or whatever damaged tissue that remains. Which is what ends up hospitalizing even healthy people, and why it's hard to predict how it will affect everyone.

Anyone more educated please correct me if I'm wrong!

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u/Serbaayuu 16d ago

the masks and vaccines are the "real' weapon

Man, if there's one thing dystopian movies taught me, it's that the Big Brother overlords love it when their subjects wear masks so they can't tell any of them apart. I remember in V for Vendetta when the rebels all put on masks and it was all according to the big villain's plan because covering your face is just what a hyper-controlling regime wants, they love that.

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u/Dogsy 16d ago

One long term effect is those people with long term effects getting absolutely destroyed by medical costs. So, if they don't want to get a shot, have fun with those bills.

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u/Pro_Gamer_Queen21 16d ago

Seriously! What’s worse? The potential long term affects of the vaccine that haven’t been proven to exist? Or permanently damaged lungs from being sick with covid? For me, I’d rather not have damaged lungs the rest of my life.