Hopefully the insurance companies will stop covering people for treatment of covid related illness who refuse the vaccine (except those with medical contraindication). I have a feeling that is coming. Severe covid illness is for the most part preventable in the US. Insurance companies definitely don’t want to pay all these bills if they can be avoided in the first place. It puts accountability back on the individual.
As much of a danger as unvaccinated people are to society, I'd always argue against making a shitty healthcare system shittier. You guys seem to have it hard enough affording to keep yourselves healthy. One of the principles of the NHS is that they don't get to pick and choose who to treat - everyone gets healthcare. It sucks if the patients are despicable pieces of shit, but honestly I wouldn't have it any other way. Basic healthcare should be a human right anyway.
When you speed in a car or drink and drive your insurance rates go up. Why should that be any different when you actively put yourself in harm's way? There's no reason why responsible people should have to cover the expenses of the irresponsible.
Lots of companies definitely do offer incentives for not smoking or being a certain weight, as those are choices people can make and can fix, like getting vaccinated. The last two things are not necessarily choices and can’t really be fixed. And none of these, besides (arguably) smoking, lead to the direct and “immediate” hospitalization or death of others. As mentioned, driving and auto insurance is a much better comparison.
Two of those are addictions, but the other two not so much
In a for-profit healthcare system being poor is expensive. By holding the individual to account for everything, poor people in general are less safe because they are disadvantaged by a for-profit healthcare system in a country with low emphasis on mental health. Allowing for some delinquency so that fewer innocents suffer is not an absurd notion.
Most of those are preventable diseases, with the exception of hiv but now with prep it’s much easier to prevent. Was mainly being facetious to point out how stupid of an idea it was to do something like that.
Yeah diabetes, heart disease, drug overdoses from opioids, automobile accidents. Not sure about the last one, but most are preventable. As much as Aids is given precidence. I'm not even sure it makes it in the top 10.
The fucked people are the ones who get cancer. You can do everything right and still get screwed.
I think covid is much more cut and dry than the other issues is all, everyone should be vaccinated so as not to leave it up to insurance companies whether or not they are more negatively impacted by contracting covid, medically or monetarily.
Well, true, still the people. As much as it sucks to know that our taxes fund NHS treatment for anti-vaxxers and other idiots, I still wouldn't have it any other way. Even the most despicable prisoner in the world has a right to healthcare unless he or she has been condemned to death.
I agree- basic healthcare is a human right, and anyone with covid related illness should receive medical care. The only caveat is the unvaccinated (not due to medical contraindication) in the USA need to pay their hospital bill; not taxpayers or insurance companies. Besides, if covid isn’t real and it’s just the flu and the doctors/nurses are all crisis actors hired by Soros then why would these folks trust the medical community to care for them when things go south? Make it make sense.
Normally I'd agree with you, but these people are already making the system shittier. Insurance companies are private businesses who will pass the cost of these asshats onto us.
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u/Visual-Anybody-5521 17d ago
Hopefully the insurance companies will stop covering people for treatment of covid related illness who refuse the vaccine (except those with medical contraindication). I have a feeling that is coming. Severe covid illness is for the most part preventable in the US. Insurance companies definitely don’t want to pay all these bills if they can be avoided in the first place. It puts accountability back on the individual.