r/raleigh 24d ago

The Vault in Raleigh- “No masks allowed”

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

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u/P99Xulia 24d ago

And there’s the bullshit statistic we were waiting for to prove you’re a conspiracy theory shill. Go preach your gospel in a COVID ward or any of the states that have run out of ICU beds. Do whatever it takes to get off the internet and never come back because nobody wants you here.

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u/nkfallout 24d ago

Nothing about what I said was a conspiracy.

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u/P99Xulia 24d ago

Quoted a survival figure with no source and also fail to understand that you can catch COVID more than once? You’re absolutely pushing a conspiracy theory but your side is all about editing what you said. Go back and fix it or just leave like everyone wants you to.

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u/nkfallout 24d ago

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u/thalidomide_child 24d ago

Percent that die among those hospitalized. Includes both non-ICU and ICU admissions

0–17 years old: 0.7%
18–49 years old: 2.1%
50–64 years old: 7.9%
≥65 years old: 18.8%

Over 65 18% of those who enter the hospital never come out.

Seems innocuous enough.

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u/nkfallout 24d ago

Ok, and how many of those that get infected are hospitalized?

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u/thalidomide_child 24d ago

It doesn't say. But according to this you can be sure that when the news reports that the hospital is out of beds, 18% of the people in there over 65 are becoming corpses.

Just doesn't seem to be something to be so flippantly dismissive of.

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u/Xilos1102 24d ago

yeah, but none of that matters to them unless they're the ones that need the bed. common courtesy and doing what's right seems to have been inbred out of these people.

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u/joshbadams 23d ago edited 23d ago

An Covid is not just about deaths, it’s also about long term/permanent damage to the body.

Wear a mask. Get vaccinated. Care about your fellow humans.

(Edit: fixed auto correct of ‘is’)

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u/nkfallout 23d ago

When the vaccine and cloth masks dont prevent transmission and only reduce it than it makes it about personal risk.

And even then when youre unvaccinated your risk is .23% and when vaccinated it's less than .01%.

If you are concerned about hospitalization and long term effects than get vaccinated. That's on you.

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u/joshbadams 23d ago

So you agree masks reduce the spread, you just don’t care about getting others sick, got it. You are just a selfish individual who can’t be bothered with an minor annoyance to help others, got it.

Not everyone can be vaccinated, they aren’t 100%, etc. You’ve heard all this, but you just don’t care about others, or so little you can’t be bothered to wear a mask.

Got it.

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u/nkfallout 23d ago

So you agree masks reduce the spread, you just don’t care about getting others sick, got it.

No, that's not what I said. I said that I could get vaccinated and still wear a mask and still get people sick. It's up to that other person to ensure they are protected and take on their own risks.

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u/joshbadams 23d ago

But the odds of getting people sick are dramatically reduced if you wear a mask (so you don't sneeze/cough all over people) or are vaccinated (so you basically have no symptoms, so you sneeze/cough all over people).

It's just about personal responsibility. It's about societal responsibility, and having to suffer some minor inconveniences for the greater good.

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u/Bool_The_End 8d ago

The chances of you giving it to someone else are far lower than they would be if you were unmasked and unvaccinated. And you do realize that kids under 12 can’t get the vaccine, right? So it’s not “up to them” to ensure they’re protected, other than wearing a mask in public; they literally can’t get the vaccine which is why every adult should be vaccinated if possible, to ensure they are reducing the spread and attempt to help keep the kids and immunocompromised folks safe.

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