r/technology • u/Dulokz • Feb 03 '23
Elon Musk's Twitter ordered by officials to properly label bedrooms in San Francisco HQ as sleeping areas — or convert them back to offices within 15 days Businesshttps://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-ordered-label-converted-office-bedrooms-sleeping-areas-san-francisco-2023-2
u/simpin_aint_e_z Feb 03 '23
In the offices he hasn’t paid rent for? That’s nice of them.
u/ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW Feb 03 '23
15 days? We'll be evicted by then!
u/Devilsdance Feb 03 '23
I stayed at an apartment for over 2 years and when I missed one payment by mistake I received an eviction notice on the 4th of the month.
Thankfully, it was an empty threat and they didn't follow through once we paid, but it was obviously stressful af to think that I could lose my home by being a few days late with a payment. We moved out shortly afterward because the new management was terrible, and also because they tried to raise our rent $400.
u/Shaggy_Snacks Feb 03 '23
Renter - "Sorry, I can't pay my rent this month."
The Law - "Well it looks someone is going to be evicted at the end of the month."
Corporation Renter - "Aww, shucks. It looks like I can't pay rent for this office space."
The Law - "Don't worry, we put safeguards to protect you during this hard times."→ More replies (4)
u/Erynsen Feb 03 '23
It's actually the total opposite.
Some states have easier eviction processes than others. But I've never seen a state where commercial has protections and residential doesn't.→ More replies (31)
u/ecstatic_cynic Feb 03 '23
I guess you've never been to Florida.→ More replies (3)
u/dhlock Feb 03 '23
They still let them be a state?→ More replies (5)
u/pm0me0yiff Feb 03 '23
It's either that or an unincorporated territory ... and if we let them do that, they'd just use it as a tax loophole.
u/Historical-Ad399 Feb 03 '23
Maybe we should let them vote on it. I'd happily let them out of federal income taxes if they'll leave federal elections alone.→ More replies (5)
u/mooky1977 Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
It's all good, soon to be reclaimed ocean.
u/chowderbags Feb 03 '23
I had a similar situation and it wasn't even my fault. I had set up autopay with them and the apartment fucked it up. I got it all resolved, but it was still a document with big letters on my door that practically translated as "hey, this guy's a deadbeat".
u/roklpolgl Feb 03 '23
Yeah that’s happened to me a couple of times over the years where I forgot one month and different places do the same thing, immediate eviction notice.
I get they can’t get too lax with payments but dude maybe a courtesy call before you post a fuckin eviction notice if I’ve paid on time every single for the last year I’ve been there? I’ve gotten one because I was $17 short one month as rent went up and I put in the wrong autopay amount.→ More replies (45)
u/Burntjellytoast Feb 03 '23
Last month our rent hadn't been taken out by the 11th so I called to see what's up. Our land lord is a brother and sister that own the company. His sister, who handled the money, was out sick, so he said he would get back to me. 3 days later, when he finally called me back, he said the check had bounced ced, which idk how we always have rent money. He sent me an email saying that if I didn't bring in the rent check in that day before 5, we would have to pay all late fees and be served an eviction notice. We have been there for over 3 years, take very well of the house, including landscaping, and we fix any little maintenance issues that come up, and we have never been late with the rent. We would move asap, but we pay well below market rate for our house. I hate it there so much.→ More replies (6)
u/gerd50501 Feb 03 '23
its months to do a business eviction. its not that easy in the US. Especially with a big business like this.→ More replies (16)
u/ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW Feb 03 '23
Yeah, I've heard eviction takes almost as much time as it takes Redditors to get a joke→ More replies (8)→ More replies (27)
u/ClassicT4 Feb 03 '23
Maybe he’s trying to use his employees to invoke squatter’s rights.→ More replies (3)
u/ogie666 Feb 03 '23
If you interview at a company and they have "bedrooms" or "sleeping areas" don't work at that place.
u/Tomcatjones Feb 03 '23
Unless you get paid to sleep and for interruptions
u/thezaksa Feb 03 '23
Like first responders or like nurses/doctors.
Where you are "on call" but not working you are allowed to sleep. Not you are working so much you HAVE to sleep there
u/Main_Conversation661 Feb 03 '23
I’m a nurse who only works OC at night. My wage is about $80/hr when on a call (2hrs min per call, even if it only takes 15min) and $6/hr when waiting around (but I get to wait around at home).
u/velociraptorfarmer Feb 03 '23
That's similar to how it is for my wife. She doesn't normally do on call shifts, but if she is, it's unpaid at the time. The second she gets called in though, it's double time, so ~$86/hr for her for the time being called in.→ More replies (2)
u/DocMalcontent Feb 03 '23
In my state, it is illegal to have someone on-call and not being paying them something. The employee may not be actively engaged with providing a service, but, they are under expectation/obligation to the employer to be available within a set time and able to perform duties to standard, i.e. not half drunk at the bar. Thus, must be compensated for being under those restrictions.
As an RN who worked a lot of call shifts. Just a fyi.
u/SponConSerdTent Feb 03 '23
I worked at a restaurant that had me on call, they would randomly expect me to come in for 2 hours at a time during rushes.
I was young and had no experience so I thought it was normal. Then one day I decided to look up the labor laws and realized it was a huge violation of my rights.
I was paid minimum wage, and only for the hours I worked. Worst job I ever had. Paycheck was tiny, stress was enormous.
I sent an email out to every other employee letting them know that it was illegal, and then quit.
u/nowake Feb 03 '23
They're absolutely aware they're violating your rights, and they're absolutely sure they can get away with it.
"But how are we supposed to staff our place appropriately during rushes?" they'll cry.
That's your problem to solve within the framework of the law, not your employees'. Note that this is a law that all of your competitors have to abide by, too. If you'd truly like to compete with them, make their business harder to operate by cleaning up your own operation and blowing the whistle on them when they don't.→ More replies (4)→ More replies (10)
u/Realistic_Ad3795 Feb 03 '23
How do they determine that for non-hourly positions?
I mean, if someone offered me a job for $400k and they made it clear it would involve long days and off hours at times, isn't that being compensated?→ More replies (2)
u/LordCharidarn Feb 03 '23
It would depend on the contract you signed. Because you don’t want to leave it as vague as ‘long days’ and ‘off hours at times’.→ More replies (1)→ More replies (15)
u/loveinjune Feb 03 '23
Makes in one hour what I make in a day! I should learn something new.
u/Papagayo_blanco Feb 03 '23
Phlebotomy, my dude. Course is usually around $500ish and they typically start between $20-$30/hr. Hell, if you take a short-term loan for the coarse, you'll have it paid off in a couple weeks of work and still get paid more than current.
Unless you're squeamish with blood and needles, of course.
There are loads of ways to boost income without 4yr degrees that aren't bullcrap 'side hustles'. Investing in yourself is always the best investment.→ More replies (1)
u/Razakel Feb 03 '23
Unless you're squeamish with blood
I am when it's mine...
u/saladmunch2 Feb 03 '23
If you are good with your hands, sign up and take the aptitude test to get into the elevator mechanic union, or pipe fitters, or electrical. It is an easy way out if you dont want to goto college.→ More replies (3)
u/skilemaster683 Feb 03 '23
Manufacturing is in desperate need of hands too, which is most excellent for the worker side as they'll pay you as much as they can not to lose you once your cemented in the company's processess
u/rye_domaine Feb 03 '23
Most manufacturing jobs that you can get with 0 experience will be minimum wage.→ More replies (2)
u/pixelveins Feb 03 '23
I'm no expert, but this sounds like it might be why they are so desperate for workers.→ More replies (1)
u/skilemaster683 Feb 03 '23
I started 0 experience at 18 back in 2019 and the situation gets more dire as the old guys keep retireing→ More replies (0)
u/saladmunch2 Feb 03 '23
You will never make the amount you would make in the union trades in 5 years along with the benefits. 5th year elevator mechanic is at $56 an hour right now and they just increased the yearly cost of living. Probationary period for the first year is $27 an hour and about 10 dollar raise every year.→ More replies (10)→ More replies (1)
u/rudyjewliani Feb 03 '23
There's a lot of people that are telling you to get into manufacturing, or some type of physical labor like an electrician, plumber, or carpentry.
Just keep in mind that anything that is demanding of your physical body can be a great job but a terrible career. Climbing into a crawl space to pull cable at 30 is one thing, but there's a reason you don't see 60 year olds doing it.→ More replies (9)
u/Tomcatjones Feb 03 '23
Depends on the type of first responder job. I’m on a few departments. Fire - on call 24/7/365 whenever pager goes off. don’t get paid unless we respond to calls.
Ems/rescue. If you work a 24hr shift. You are paid to sleep for 4 hours (sleep rate is 10/hr) and if interrupted you get OT wage
u/travman6 Feb 03 '23
I see why so many firefighters turn to arson, need more calls to pay my rent this month.→ More replies (11)
u/StrokeGameHusky Feb 03 '23
Most of them are into arson before they sign up, and most are unpaid lol
u/mindless_gibberish Feb 03 '23
yeah turns out people who volunteer to run into fires tend to just really like fire
u/Tomcatjones Feb 03 '23
Yup. Lol.. we get paid once a year. one sizable check in December
u/Objective-Ad-585 Feb 03 '23
How many fires are you setting ? And why at Xmas ? Do you hate Santa ?→ More replies (2)
u/treefox Feb 03 '23
He runs a venue for gender reveal parties on the side.→ More replies (2)→ More replies (10)
u/brinz1 Feb 03 '23
Once you have an addiction to setting fires and being the hero, you aren't saving them for the money→ More replies (1)
u/DecisivelyArbitrary Feb 03 '23
Okay, Bender.→ More replies (2)
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u/itisoktodance Feb 03 '23
Where I am, the firefighters actually have bedrooms and they sleep during the night shift. They work two day shifts, 12 hours each (day shift 7am-7pm, then night shift 7pm-7am next day), then they get two days off. My dad commands a brigade here.→ More replies (31)
u/Z-Ninja Feb 03 '23
Most tech companies do this for critical systems, but you don't have to be in the office for it. My mom's a nurse and even when she's on call she doesn't have to be at the hospital.→ More replies (15)
u/Kekoa_ok Feb 03 '23
pilots and crews for medical choppers have lil dinky rooms they can sleep in while on call→ More replies (4)
u/his_rotundity_ Feb 03 '23
I don't know. I'm beginning to think this may be a trope. I often hear people saying things like, "Yeah, I'd work late on a Friday, a weekend, or a holiday for the right price." But the more I think about it, it isn't worth it. And I know that because I did it for years.
These types of demands suck no matter how much you're getting paid. You couldn't pay me any amount to miss another Thanksgiving or Christmas, or a kids birthday.
Below comments reference first responders and their odd hours as well as other on-call-type jobs. Do you really have a price for the deleterious effects erratic work schedules have on your health?→ More replies (13)→ More replies (13)
u/ic_engineer Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
Devs are salary exempt unless they're contracting. If they're contracting, no one is going to pay the going rate for them to sleep in the office.
So they don't really get that.
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u/WinkyTheFrog Feb 03 '23
Unless you are applying to work at a hotel.
u/le_sweden Feb 03 '23
Or Sleepnumber maybe lol→ More replies (1)
u/adrift_burrito Feb 03 '23
When I was 6 I told my parents I wanted to be a mattress tester when I grew up so I could get paid to sleep.→ More replies (1)
u/northerncal Feb 03 '23
And? How have your dreams been progressing?→ More replies (1)→ More replies (2)
u/ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW Feb 03 '23
Mattress stores are basically one big bedroom
u/cleeder Feb 03 '23
With so much room for activities!→ More replies (1)
u/SeattleBattle Feb 03 '23
I work at Google and there are nap pods. About once a year I'm having a rough day and will take an hour nap. It's a nice perk.
What is bad is if you are expected to sleep at work!
u/Terrible_Truth Feb 03 '23
If I had my own company, I would have sleep pods. Some days you’re just tired and need that 20 minute power nap.→ More replies (7)
u/MotoMadic Feb 03 '23
I’m a foreigner working in SE Asia. Our office has male and female sleeping quarters. I get two 15 minute breaks and an hour lunch. I eat lunch while I work and sleep for an hour on my lunch. I love it. I feel so refreshed and it makes the day so much more bearable. More places SHOULD have sleeping areas. My first big boy job was Discover Card 10 years ago and on those days I was super tired, I put my backseat down in my car and slep across the backseat and trunk. Designated sleeping areas are so much better.→ More replies (2)
u/Kazu_the_Kazoo Feb 03 '23
It’s funny cause when you said that my first reaction is jealousy, but then I realize I work from home and I have a bed I can nap in. And a couch in my home office I can nap on.
Yet somehow a nap pod seems better.→ More replies (4)
u/ComradeCapitalist Feb 03 '23
Yeah a quiet place to nap is chill. A place to spend the night is a very bad sign.
u/icallshenannigans Feb 03 '23
You are clearly not “extremely hardcore”.→ More replies (13)
u/Fuckface_Whisperer Feb 03 '23
Yeah, I use them if I have too many drinks at lunch.
u/RagingAnemone Feb 03 '23
I never understood why they have doctors work 24 or 36 hour shifts at a hospital? Because the one thing you want a doctor to be is tired.
u/DavidBrooker Feb 03 '23
Error rates by physicians do increase towards the end of long shifts, but they increase much more during patient handover (ie, a new physician starting their shift has a much higher error rate, while they familiarize themselves with an existing patients situation).
u/datarancher Feb 03 '23
The thing is that hand-off seems eminently fixable, but you’re not getting around sleep deprivation without massive advances in biology (or nasty long-term consequences).→ More replies (10)
u/Typical-Radish4317 Feb 03 '23
You'd think the hand off thing would be fixable but it's not just nurses, space industry has the same issue as well. And I'm sure there is other professions. It's just really hard handing off if it's not nothing to report. And even then a lot of the times something that you take for granted completely stumps someone who hasn't been on shift in a week and you find out they've been troubleshooting something that's you thought was common knowledge. No matter how good you think you design your handover system it will be inherently flawed because people are→ More replies (15)
u/StarfallSunset Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 04 '23
Makes sense. I wonder if that's the same reason why nurses usually work 12-hour shifts instead of 8?→ More replies (1)
u/whorest_gump Feb 03 '23
This is the exact reason!→ More replies (10)
u/lumpialarry Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
I thinks from the reasoning that most dangerous point in the care of patients is during the hand off between doctors and the communication of patient status. Long shifts mean a patient is in the care of one doctor for a longer period.→ More replies (1)
u/laser14344 Feb 03 '23
My office has a sleeping area. Didn't sleep well one night so I had a quick nap in the middle of the day.→ More replies (4)
u/verygoodchoices Feb 03 '23
I've definitely had to take a nap in the car before when you're hitting that "too tired to function" level. Having a nice cozy room sounds nice.→ More replies (1)
u/Syncroz Feb 03 '23
Oh these aren't bedrooms. These are hardcore 2.0 sleeping pods.→ More replies (2)
u/send_me_potato Feb 03 '23
Yea that’s what Google calls it.
https://www.theguardian.com/business-to-business/2017/dec/04/clocking-off-the-companies-introducing-nap-time-to-the-workplace→ More replies (1)
u/captainAwesomePants Feb 03 '23
Okay, yeah, but Google means "nap pod for afternoon nap to sleep off the 3 o'clocksies cookies," not "nap because you worked all night."→ More replies (1)
u/flukz Feb 03 '23
Nearly every IT job I’ve ever had. A lot of times we have maintenance periods, usually over the weekend unless it’s an emergency and after midnight when we can take the network down. I’ve pulled 36 hours and even got out of a speeding ticket at 3am when they realized I wasn’t drunk, just sleep deprived.→ More replies (2)
u/cjsv7657 Feb 03 '23
In my state that counts the same as if you were drunk. If you're so tired you're driving impaired you shouldn't be driving.→ More replies (2)
u/_Aj_ Feb 03 '23
I mean unless it's a hospital, fire department, etc.
Hotel even→ More replies (7)
u/windcape Feb 03 '23
If you have more than 100 employees you’re legally required to have one here in Sweden :p→ More replies (1)
u/constagram Feb 03 '23
Some people want to / need to nap during the day. You see nap pods at other places including Google.→ More replies (1)
u/dokks Feb 03 '23
I worked at a place that had quiet rooms with a bed in it so that it you were at the office and suddenly felt ill you had a place where you could go and lay down to see if you felt better. I personally appreciate it cuz there were several times that I had a headache that I knew it passed if I could just find a quiet place to relax for an hour or so.→ More replies (1)
u/notyouraveragefag Feb 03 '23
In Sweden places of work over a certain headcount are apparently mandated by law to have resting rooms for employees.
So there your recommendation is flipped, if they don’t have it they’re breaking at least one labor law.
u/m00fster Feb 03 '23
I love the sleeping areas. Even just 30 min nap I feel so much more energized→ More replies (2)
u/Kichigai Feb 03 '23
Seriously, mid-day naps should be more of a thing. A few times when watching my niece I'd lay down and zonk out after she finally succumbed to tiredness. It was quite refreshing.→ More replies (162)
u/OphioukhosUnbound Feb 03 '23
The ability to sleep during a lunch — especially after hours of intense thinking is a huge plus and I’d absolutely short list that place.
And if I get into a work groove and want to ride it, I should be supported.
We don’t all have to work the same way you do.→ More replies (1)
u/penguin_chacha Feb 03 '23
Since I've been working from home, I've been using my lunch hour to catch a half an hour nap everyday. I genuinely believe it makes me so much more productive. College would've been easier if i could this→ More replies (2)
u/YourFriendNoo Feb 03 '23
those are just the quarters where his workers sleep when they aren't being paid but can't leave and go to their own home or anything
u/mok000 Feb 03 '23
I am guessing office space is tax deductable as being part of the prerequisite for running a business, whereas sleeping areas aren't.
u/Jernsaxe Feb 03 '23
My guess would be it breaks fire or health regulations.
Firefighters need to know where people are sleeping in case of a fire and I would assume the air quality might also suffer if the room wasn't designed to people sweating and farting in their sleep.
u/RamenJunkie Feb 03 '23
Its also a bit of a trap because I would imagine "bedrooms" have additional requirementd around bath rooms and closets etc.→ More replies (2)
u/LukeLovesLakes Feb 03 '23
It's mostly about egress. Bedrooms MUST have two. These rooms almost certainly only have one.→ More replies (6)
u/General_Kamakaze Feb 03 '23
There are more onerous requirements for fire safety in areas where occupants may be sleeping.
For example, more detectors per m2, louder alarms, shorter travel distances to escape routes, smoke ventilation in protected corridors etc.→ More replies (4)
u/RosefaceK Feb 03 '23
Oh yeah you need additional building requirements since you don’t want everyone to die in their sleep in case there’s an emergency
u/g7wilson Feb 03 '23
since you don’t want
I don't think Elon cares, really
u/nyxo1 Feb 03 '23
Damn liberals trying to kill capitalism by not sacrificing serfs.→ More replies (5)
u/Cement4Brains Feb 03 '23
The building code is what would normally govern here, it has all of the requirements for what a tenant fit-up would require when converting from office to sleeping/living spaces. And dormitories/boarding houses have much more stringent requirements than regular homes.→ More replies (30)
u/ColoRadOrgy Feb 03 '23
Is it still tax deductible if he's not even paying the rent for the building?→ More replies (11)
u/aiepslenvgqefhwz Feb 03 '23
Wasn’t Elon demanding outrageous hours of his workers, who many are here on visas and if they are fired or quit will be forced to leave the country? Hmm
u/usr_bin_laden Feb 03 '23
Yeah, he's basically abusing vulnerable workers into indentured servitude.→ More replies (12)
u/SlightlyAngyKitty Feb 03 '23
If they leave the buildings owner will go in and change the locks→ More replies (1)→ More replies (24)
u/drkgreyfox Feb 03 '23
They're his hardcore Rock Stars committed to excellence /s→ More replies (2)
u/AltCtrlShifty Feb 03 '23
I wonder if this was written by AI, because it’s terrible
u/FIRSTFREED0CELL Feb 03 '23
Stop blaming AI for stuff written by humans with shitty language skills! /s→ More replies (4)
u/Ascarea Feb 03 '23
if they trained the AI on articles from the past couple of years, we're in trouble→ More replies (3)
u/klavin1 Feb 03 '23
"Ai just learned to write headlines and its honestly the best thing you'll read all day"→ More replies (3)→ More replies (13)
u/The-Only-Razor Feb 03 '23
Yeah, the entire article is a mess.
The most important part of the story is also buried in the middle:
Dan Sider, San Francisco Planning Department's chief of staff, told the San Francisco Chronicle that Twitter's building wasn't out of compliance with normal office use and didn't seem to be "radically different" from other offices. He added that sleeping pods and rest areas were common in modern offices. However, it was important to distinguish whether the bedrooms were being used for naps or full-time residence, which is charged differently to commercial buildings, Sider told the Chronicle.
This article is a meme, and is just proof that Reddit will latch onto any (hilariously poorly written) headline about Musk.
u/everyothernamegone Feb 03 '23
I thought he was getting evicted for not paying rent.
u/420everytime Feb 03 '23
That happened in Singapore, but in San Francisco there’s a lot of office space available for rent.
The person who owns the real estate is probably better off not getting rent and then later getting something in a lawsuit or Twitter bankruptcy proceedings.
The alternative is eviction and not being able to find a tenant resulting in getting nothing
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u/Miguel-odon Feb 03 '23 edited Feb 03 '23
Landlord in San Francisco is also suing Twitter for $6.8 million unpaid rent.
Edit: I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something.→ More replies (3)→ More replies (20)
u/Missus_Missiles Feb 03 '23
Alternatively, "oh, people live here. Squatters rights."→ More replies (12)→ More replies (4)
u/FIRSTFREED0CELL Feb 03 '23
Twitter has been sued by their HQ Landlord:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/Twitter-sued-by-landlord-at-S-F-HQ-after-alleged-17737102.php→ More replies (1)
u/PISS_FILLED_EARS Feb 03 '23
Bedrooms have different architectural code and safety requirement's, probably different fire egress, and maybe even conditioned air requirements, than an office space. You are also literally just not permitted to have bedrooms in places where the zoning permits businesses and not residences too. It quickly becomes a life safety issue in the eyes of the fire marshal and building and zoning officials eyes. Yes they can shut stuff like that down pretty quick when it turns into life safety issues. Just some thoughts.
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u/That_Jay_Money Feb 03 '23
Bingo. Most codes for bedrooms are actually about people getting out through a second exit or, more likely, a fireman getting in all geared up through that second exit, which is why it can't just be a tiny window.→ More replies (9)
u/ZombieDog Feb 03 '23
I’ve actually had a number of my employees ask for an area they can nap. Not because I work them to death but because we are a common sense company. Sometimes life hits you hard and you need a little rest to do your best work. (Infant at home, messy divorce, sick loved one, general stress,etc…). The ask was, “Can I get an area to lay down and recover for an hour or two if I need to? Otherwise I can struggle bus the day but I do better work if I’m rested and healthy”. I think it’s a fine idea on that context. Much rather have that than waste hours in pointless meetings, struggle to do good work because they are mentally/physically exhausted, then feel bad about their day because they didn’t accomplish anything. Not saying that is what is happening at twitter, but in general that’s not a bad thing if done right.
u/ElysianBlight Feb 03 '23
I had an 8-5 (one hour unpaid lunch) office call center job, and I sorely wanted a spot to nap on my lunch To just lay down in the cool dark and decompress. I was seriously tempted to bring a pillow and crawl under an empty desk→ More replies (4)→ More replies (12)
u/calvarez Feb 03 '23
I set up a place like this back in the tech early days. Often for myself, or for anyone who needed it. Aside from what you said, some of us would truly get caught up into projects and simply not want to leave. Then -bam- it's late as hell. Sleep a bit, then maybe work more, or drive home more safely.
u/Meltman1223 Feb 03 '23
I work in commercial construction. There are different life safety requirements for spaces where people sleep Vs typical commercial business use. Zoning for one but on a basic building level, sleeping rooms require smoke detectors (surprising not a standard feature in typical commercial buildings that are already sprinkled with fire alarm systems) but also may change the entire required layout of the building or tenant space. May require shorter travel distances to exits, more emergency lighting, etc. People sleeping in a commercial space that is not specifically designed and permitted to allow it is a huge Nono anywhere in the US, seems silly but it boils down to insurance/liability, statewide building codes and local zoning requirements. Thems the rules, almost any lease on a commercial or industrial space will have language about this or refer to it in local covenants.
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u/TwistedOperator Feb 03 '23
Wonder how much longer till he just relocates Twitter to Texas where he owns the politicians.
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u/Oknight Feb 03 '23
I'm glad the headline clarified that it was referring to Elon Musk's Twitter... I might have gotten the idea that it was some other Twitter they were discussing.
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Feb 03 '23
has he paid his overdue rent yet on any of this???? (gee....maybe it would have been cheaper to let everyone work from home......)
u/YawaruSan Feb 03 '23
Living in an office building working for a “billionaire” boss that can’t pay the rent to maintain a platform that most people agree the world would be better off without must be a miserable existence.
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u/Jealous-Ninja5463 Feb 03 '23
Especially considering these people were practically all working remotely before he showed up
u/AFuddyDuddy Feb 03 '23
So they can work 16 hours a day, nap, and get back to work.
Wasn't this outlawed by labor laws?
u/Idontcommentorpost Feb 03 '23
Yes, but we're making things great again by rolling back workplace/environmental regulation/consumer protection/election integrity/child labor/individual rights/monopoly/progressive tax laws! Don't you get it!→ More replies (29)
u/AnimatorJay Feb 03 '23
And then, blame the Dems! Muahahahaha→ More replies (1)→ More replies (5)
u/gophergun Feb 03 '23
First of all, it's worth drawing a distinction between having nap rooms and working 16 hour days, as plenty of places maintain normal 8 hour work days while having nap rooms. That said, no, there's nothing keeping a company from requiring 16 hour shifts. For some businesses like hospitals, it's not unheard of for someone to work a double shift of 24 hours or more. They just need to be either salaried or paid overtime.→ More replies (15)
u/vahistoricaloriginal Feb 03 '23 •
"Dan Sider, San Francisco Planning Department's chief of staff, told the San Francisco Chronicle that Twitter's building wasn't out of compliance with normal office use and didn't seem to be "radically different" from other offices. He added that sleeping pods and rest areas were common in modern offices."
u/XJDenton Feb 03 '23
He added that sleeping pods and rest areas were common in modern offices.
Can't help but feel that is worse.
u/ComprehensivePiano81 Feb 03 '23
Think by sleeping pods, they mean places people take a nap…not sleep overnight→ More replies (3)
u/Hey_look_new Feb 03 '23
we actually have these
theyre designated quiet rooms, originally were meant for private phone calls
now the light switches work on timers
theyre natively on, and flipping the switch gives 20 mins of darkness→ More replies (9)
u/ComprehensivePiano81 Feb 03 '23
Worked at a shit bank that had these 10 years ago. Everyone knows 15 minute nap can recharge you. Probably would be fired if I sleepy 8 hours in one.→ More replies (2)
u/Ok_Sir5926 Feb 03 '23 •
Ironically, I'm making a deposit at one of those right this very moment!
u/ComprehensivePiano81 Feb 03 '23
You deserve that award haha, made me laugh at my own stupid grammar.
u/Reidbit Feb 03 '23
I worked at a company that had some of these, they were mostly used by the IT staff when they did upgrades over the weekend/nights.
u/Isa472 Feb 03 '23
Nah we have quiet rooms in my office and they're awesome. The only place where I do naps. 15min and I'm fresh→ More replies (27)
u/bleepsndrums Feb 03 '23
My company has nap rooms and meditation rooms. They're really nice perks!→ More replies (2)
u/DJOMaul Feb 03 '23
When I was working as a network admin for a telecom, I used the nap room a few times while working on over night upgrades, and a few very complex outages.
Idk how common they are for normal employees, but there is definitely a number of use cases for certain circumstances. Especially if you are a key engineer working an major issue. It was a 40 min drive home, and it was often safer to take an 20 - 30 min nap before driving home tired.→ More replies (6)
u/tomdarch Feb 03 '23
Under every building code that I’m familiar with as a US architect, once spaces become bedrooms, there is a whole cascade of requirements that almost no office building can comply with. Occasionally used “nap pods” are one thing, but rooms where people regularly, repeatedly sleep is something different.→ More replies (50)
u/Daetra Feb 03 '23
Even from the title, it doesn't sound like much. He (the company) has to properly label the sleep pod areas. Just get those areas properly labeled.→ More replies (2)
u/Random_Introvert_42 Feb 03 '23
Why are there bedrooms at an office building?
u/KnowingDoubter Feb 04 '23
That’s why he wants to move the company to Texas. There he can just warehouse his employees in shipping containers.
u/TheBigPhilbowski Feb 03 '23
Notably, Twitter facilitated communication during the arab spring, where the people organized to stand against and even overthrow several broken and corrupt government regimes throughout the middle east - including some participation in places like Saudi Arabia, for example.
Twitter's second largest investor after musk takeover... the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and it's de facto leader who, among other things, killed and dismembered an American journalist without consequence somewhat recently.
And now Twitter is being killed... and dismembered.
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u/wernerverklempt Feb 03 '23
Why is it necessary to refer to it as “Elon Musk’s Twitter”? We know.
u/send_me_potato Feb 03 '23
How else does it go to the homepage?→ More replies (2)
u/gophergun Feb 03 '23
lol true, I can't think of another company that's regularly referred to as CEO's Company. No one calls it Sundar Pichai's Google or Jim Farley's Ford (which coincidentally sounds like a dealership).
u/Pooponmods Feb 03 '23
Wow this technology article is super interesting! How do you think he’ll do it? Is this as challenging a problem as it sounds? Wow I’m glad I get these cool technology articles from Reddit. Super cool.
u/Sargatanus Feb 03 '23 •
Another headline that would have sounded like pure gibberish ten years ago