I’ll never forget the time my girlfriend came back from a planned parenthood in tears because 50 or so women were shouting baby killer and whore at her. The best part is she wasn’t even getting an abortion. She was getting prenatal vitamins for a healthier pregnancy.
I get screamed at every time I get an STD test. Or they have people out pretending to work for PP and telling people you have to check in with them at the gate then BOOM they give you anti abortion shit.
I'm like, bro. This location doesn't even offer abortions.
ETA: there sure are a lot of uneducated people in the comments who are absolutely baffled by the idea of routine testing and responsible sexual health. Y'all are the reason for the statistics. But I guess if you never get a test, you technically never have to disclose your status to your partner. 🤡
There was a man, easily 80 years old, who would stand on the corner of a road right outside the city of the college I used to attend.
I saw him every time I drove past that corner. Every single day, at every time of the day, he was there. Equipped with a baby doll in a stroller and an 8ft sign, it was like this man was protesting for his life.
I felt bad for him. Especially since he was devoted to protesting a clinic that overall decreases the need for abortions, but provides them in a safe and sterile environment if necessary. I don't know if he realizes that these clinics will first compile all the resources they can to help you carry through with your pregnancy, and have stopped more abortions than he has.
They don't care. For them it's all about being righteous warriors for their god. All we can do is try to educate the young in the hopes that one day religion, at least fanatical religion, will be a relic of the past.
I went to a private Christian school from K-12 and I can definitively say that's how these belief systems are propogated: Getting to kids before they can properly develop their mental skills and trapping them in such beliefs.
My analogy has always been: Imagine an athletics facility that claims "Send kids to our programs and we'll teach them how to exercise, run, leap, etc!" So parents drop their children off, the employees lead them inside, knock them out, and surgically remove their legs. Then the children crawl out when the program is finished, and the employees go home to sleep soundly knowing they've brought joy and goodness to this evil world. That's about what such schools are for academics rather than athletics.
I despise such fundamentalist worldviews with a passion only intimate knowledge could inflame, but I can't help but feel a deep pity for those I grew up with (and people like them) even as they spout nonsense and insanity and vitriol. They were born in a casket.
Not op, but absolutely. It just takes time and exposure to new ideas and ways of thinking. So people who stay totally isolated within the religion are far far less likely to develop those skills than the kid who goes to a regular college and starts thinking for themselves
There's an old guy who walks up and down the shoulder of a major road near me, always dragging a 10-foot cross. Actually dragging isn't the right word. It has little caster wheels on the bottom. But still he'll do it for a few hours at a time in the Texas heat. I don't know what he protesting or promoting but all I can ever think is "this did is fucking crazy."
Right....I get what you're saying but if you're strictly looking at America, where tf do you think "fanatical" reoublicans come from if not fanatical religion?
Unwanted, I guess. If you call having a good time and getting pregnant. And getting abortion a good thing. Then there’s something wrong with society.
Take responsibility for your actions.
I guess, if you call a living baby in a women’s body.
And killing it. Then calling it taking responsibility.
Wow! You lazy people. Anything to make your life easier for yourself and not taking responsibility for your own actions.
Listen, in most first world countries, when a woman becomes pregnant and she wasn’t planning on it, it kinda goes like this:
Doctor: Well, your vitals look good, you have no lumps in your breasts, your bloodwork and cholesterol levels all look great. This pregnancy should go well. Be sure to get your rest and avoid alcohol.
Woman: I’m pregnant?!
Doctor: Oh, well, yes. Were you not trying to get pregnant?
Woman: No, I wasn’t. I take birth control pills, but I forgot them when I went away for a weekend last month.
Doctor: Sometimes that’s all it takes. Are you in a long term relationship?
Woman: We’ve been together a few months, but I feel like we are still getting to know each other.
Doctor: Would you like to terminate this pregnancy? Or think about it? Maybe talk to your partner about carrying it to term?
Woman: Oh my god, no, I think it would freak him out. We only just decided to be exclusive. We certainly haven’t started talking about being parents together.
Doctor: So you’d like to terminate? We can take care of that right now, if you like.
Woman: Yes, definitely.
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Not sure why abortion is such a big deal in the US.
People can take responsibility by terminating the pregnancy knowing they might not be capable parents in many ways. Could be they don't have money to raise the baby or living under their own roof.
Safe sex and birth control can still fail. Don't try to imply having sex will always result in getting the woman pregnant.
And there it is. The slut shaming. Yep, dem wimmins must be punished for having sex, innit?
How about punishing their partners? No? Or hey, how about non-consensual sex? Surely, women must be punished for that, as well. Oh, riiight, they are: no abortion for them, either, amirite?
The idea that sexism and the patriarchy is exclusively enforced by men is so false. Just as plenty of men will jump to calling another man a pussy for showing emotion, plenty of women will jump to calling another woman a whore for not being celibate. Sexism is a system that is forced on everyone, and enforced by conservatives of all kinds.
I was raised to believe this (not any longer, though) and was talking to a friend about it once, how - whether it's true or not - at least some people genuinely believe it's a matter of protecting life. She made a good point that, if so, they should also be equally zealous in promoting proper sex education, safe sex methods, even free contraceptives, to make it a nonissue; yet the majority are equally opposed to such instead.
I can appreciate that there is potentially genuine concern for life involved, but setting aside that medical professionals (who are certainly better qualified to answer) disagree over the matter of when a fetus qualifies as life, the belief systems that oppose abortion tend to hold contradictory beliefs and behaviors regarding concern for others' wellfare.
How many people have I known who, on the basis of a soul, believe ending a life before it's begun is wrong, yet also see no issue with the predestined damnation of a soul before it's even conceived? Most of them, it happens. The same illogic is necessary for both.
Considering how many of those people think contraception (be it the pill, or plan-b or whatever else) counts as an abortion, and that they think that safe sex education promotes promiscuity, they're really just fucking themselves (which I think they're also against)
In downtown Denver in the late 1990s/early 2000s there was an Abraham Lincoln cosplay weirdo on the 16th Street Mall that would be constantly loudmouthing against abortion as if it were his job.
These people jerk off to the Constitution then conveniently forget that abortion is constitutionally-protected. Abe would probably be fine with abortion.
Schools having staff that taught about planned parenthood and where to go to get counselling about their future were targetted a lot were I am from. We had school nurses who were all former military and the head nurse for our region was a former Marine who told any women protestor that if they wanted to discuss it with her personally, she'd be more than happy to have a brief conversation with them. One that was light on talking.
That lady endured a whole lot of entitled and arrogant stupidity but, not surprisingly, none of the Gyneth Paltrow following church going soccer moms wanted to push their luck with her face-to-face. And they knew they couldn't push their husbands to do it either (many of whom were former military as well) on planned parenthood or anything, including getting vaccinated.
These people aren't normal and we have to pretend that their speech is somehow sacred because slippery slope bullshit. We're so much better at recognizing cancer when we see it.. we need to outright ban this shit as well as disinformation. It's rediculous to think that people.are fighting tooth and nail to allow these people terrorize others
Lol of course you would. And no Id be the first to punch a Nazi.. why do people like you cling onto the most pettiest of petty to protect.. like hate speech and fascist rhetoric as well as anti wax misinformation and then have the balls to call other Nazis.. do you have no self respect? I bet you shit on BLM protests too. Using words like small businesses, looters, thugs and riots.
Yeah I shit on any protest that causes harm to people’s homes life or business for the since of „justice“. You know who also would burn and graffiti business stores and homes? The nazi party. I bet you call out one January 6th but not the 2 months of love last year or the amount of crime spikes in those same Cities.
Youre comparing protests that tackle police shootings of innocent people to white supremacy conspiracy nuts trying to overthrow our democratic process.. this isn't a matter of opinion anymore.
If they are truly about police shootings why are people that are not cops being harassed and beaten in the street? Are they scared to actually attack people who have guns? When Ghandi led protest against British rule I don’t recall burning cities and killing innocent people regardless if you call it justice. It’s a matter of opinion when half the country is not in favor of it. The sad part is you didn’t even deny that BLM does such acts. You went to whataboutism and trying to compare two wrongs.
Burning cities? Killing innocent people? Lol OK Tucker Carlson, I don't blame you for being pissed off if that's what you believe. Just make sure you're going off actual facts and not hyper focusing on clickbait propaganda.
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u/slugsliveinmymouth 15d ago
I’ll never forget the time my girlfriend came back from a planned parenthood in tears because 50 or so women were shouting baby killer and whore at her. The best part is she wasn’t even getting an abortion. She was getting prenatal vitamins for a healthier pregnancy.