There was a man, easily 80 years old, who would stand on the corner of a road right outside the city of the college I used to attend.
I saw him every time I drove past that corner. Every single day, at every time of the day, he was there. Equipped with a baby doll in a stroller and an 8ft sign, it was like this man was protesting for his life.
I felt bad for him. Especially since he was devoted to protesting a clinic that overall decreases the need for abortions, but provides them in a safe and sterile environment if necessary. I don't know if he realizes that these clinics will first compile all the resources they can to help you carry through with your pregnancy, and have stopped more abortions than he has.
They don't care. For them it's all about being righteous warriors for their god. All we can do is try to educate the young in the hopes that one day religion, at least fanatical religion, will be a relic of the past.
I went to a private Christian school from K-12 and I can definitively say that's how these belief systems are propogated: Getting to kids before they can properly develop their mental skills and trapping them in such beliefs.
My analogy has always been: Imagine an athletics facility that claims "Send kids to our programs and we'll teach them how to exercise, run, leap, etc!" So parents drop their children off, the employees lead them inside, knock them out, and surgically remove their legs. Then the children crawl out when the program is finished, and the employees go home to sleep soundly knowing they've brought joy and goodness to this evil world. That's about what such schools are for academics rather than athletics.
I despise such fundamentalist worldviews with a passion only intimate knowledge could inflame, but I can't help but feel a deep pity for those I grew up with (and people like them) even as they spout nonsense and insanity and vitriol. They were born in a casket.
Not op, but absolutely. It just takes time and exposure to new ideas and ways of thinking. So people who stay totally isolated within the religion are far far less likely to develop those skills than the kid who goes to a regular college and starts thinking for themselves
There's an old guy who walks up and down the shoulder of a major road near me, always dragging a 10-foot cross. Actually dragging isn't the right word. It has little caster wheels on the bottom. But still he'll do it for a few hours at a time in the Texas heat. I don't know what he protesting or promoting but all I can ever think is "this did is fucking crazy."
Right....I get what you're saying but if you're strictly looking at America, where tf do you think "fanatical" reoublicans come from if not fanatical religion?
A positive no for that question. But really since your sentence is heavily biased I don’t know what specific nut jobs and groups you are referring to and their actions as a whole and not individually.
Unwanted, I guess. If you call having a good time and getting pregnant. And getting abortion a good thing. Then there’s something wrong with society.
Take responsibility for your actions.
I guess, if you call a living baby in a women’s body.
And killing it. Then calling it taking responsibility.
Wow! You lazy people. Anything to make your life easier for yourself and not taking responsibility for your own actions.
Listen, in most first world countries, when a woman becomes pregnant and she wasn’t planning on it, it kinda goes like this:
Doctor: Well, your vitals look good, you have no lumps in your breasts, your bloodwork and cholesterol levels all look great. This pregnancy should go well. Be sure to get your rest and avoid alcohol.
Woman: I’m pregnant?!
Doctor: Oh, well, yes. Were you not trying to get pregnant?
Woman: No, I wasn’t. I take birth control pills, but I forgot them when I went away for a weekend last month.
Doctor: Sometimes that’s all it takes. Are you in a long term relationship?
Woman: We’ve been together a few months, but I feel like we are still getting to know each other.
Doctor: Would you like to terminate this pregnancy? Or think about it? Maybe talk to your partner about carrying it to term?
Woman: Oh my god, no, I think it would freak him out. We only just decided to be exclusive. We certainly haven’t started talking about being parents together.
Doctor: So you’d like to terminate? We can take care of that right now, if you like.
Woman: Yes, definitely.
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Not sure why abortion is such a big deal in the US.
People can take responsibility by terminating the pregnancy knowing they might not be capable parents in many ways. Could be they don't have money to raise the baby or living under their own roof.
Safe sex and birth control can still fail. Don't try to imply having sex will always result in getting the woman pregnant.
That's really not the topic bring discussed at the moment, but yeah I don't think men should be totally at the mercy of the woman's wishes in the event birth control fails.
There should be a reasonable framework for a man not wishing to be a parent to opt out. There should NOT however be any level of control on the abortion itself. The man should be protected from being a parent against his will and wishes, but that's where it stops. A man who wants the pregnancy to continue doesn't get any say over the abortion because that all goes on in the woman's body.
And there it is. The slut shaming. Yep, dem wimmins must be punished for having sex, innit?
How about punishing their partners? No? Or hey, how about non-consensual sex? Surely, women must be punished for that, as well. Oh, riiight, they are: no abortion for them, either, amirite?
The idea that sexism and the patriarchy is exclusively enforced by men is so false. Just as plenty of men will jump to calling another man a pussy for showing emotion, plenty of women will jump to calling another woman a whore for not being celibate. Sexism is a system that is forced on everyone, and enforced by conservatives of all kinds.
I was raised to believe this (not any longer, though) and was talking to a friend about it once, how - whether it's true or not - at least some people genuinely believe it's a matter of protecting life. She made a good point that, if so, they should also be equally zealous in promoting proper sex education, safe sex methods, even free contraceptives, to make it a nonissue; yet the majority are equally opposed to such instead.
I can appreciate that there is potentially genuine concern for life involved, but setting aside that medical professionals (who are certainly better qualified to answer) disagree over the matter of when a fetus qualifies as life, the belief systems that oppose abortion tend to hold contradictory beliefs and behaviors regarding concern for others' wellfare.
How many people have I known who, on the basis of a soul, believe ending a life before it's begun is wrong, yet also see no issue with the predestined damnation of a soul before it's even conceived? Most of them, it happens. The same illogic is necessary for both.
Considering how many of those people think contraception (be it the pill, or plan-b or whatever else) counts as an abortion, and that they think that safe sex education promotes promiscuity, they're really just fucking themselves (which I think they're also against)
In downtown Denver in the late 1990s/early 2000s there was an Abraham Lincoln cosplay weirdo on the 16th Street Mall that would be constantly loudmouthing against abortion as if it were his job.
These people jerk off to the Constitution then conveniently forget that abortion is constitutionally-protected. Abe would probably be fine with abortion.
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u/16yYPueES4LaZrbJLhPW 15d ago
There was a man, easily 80 years old, who would stand on the corner of a road right outside the city of the college I used to attend.
I saw him every time I drove past that corner. Every single day, at every time of the day, he was there. Equipped with a baby doll in a stroller and an 8ft sign, it was like this man was protesting for his life.
I felt bad for him. Especially since he was devoted to protesting a clinic that overall decreases the need for abortions, but provides them in a safe and sterile environment if necessary. I don't know if he realizes that these clinics will first compile all the resources they can to help you carry through with your pregnancy, and have stopped more abortions than he has.