I’ll never forget the time my girlfriend came back from a planned parenthood in tears because 50 or so women were shouting baby killer and whore at her. The best part is she wasn’t even getting an abortion. She was getting prenatal vitamins for a healthier pregnancy.
They only care about babies when they're attached to the mothers. It's more about controlling what women can do for many of them rather than it being about the fetus. People have gotten very angry with me for saying this but in my experience these exact same people are vehemently against social safety nets that would help families with small children so they can go fuck themselves.
They're also against birth control, which is the real tell. It's not about reducing the number of abortions, it's about the punishing of women for sex.
If they really wanted to actually reduce the number of abortions, they'd spend their time funding or delivery good quality sex education to teenagers and throwing condoms and contraceptive pills at anyone and everyone by the ton.
But noooooo, they're not doing that, are they? As that's not what they really want.
This has been my takeaway as well. They don't want to hear any shit on all of the many ways to address abortions as a problem. Their one and only answer is "stop having sex whore".
You realize we live in the Information Age and kids have a phone early as people use to get bikes? They know what safe sex is. I don’t know why boomers and millennials think kids don’t know about condoms and pulling out, with plan B as a possible quick store grab. Condoms are cheap by the way, you don’t need to by the 20 dollar lifestyle flavored condoms to have sex. The reason why so many kids have kids today is because of bad parenting and a reversal in culture and morals. Rap music is all younger generations listen to and what do they talk about and show? WAP. Even pop music is getting more detailed and it’s not teaching safe sex when in reality entertainment and social media is the new school education.
There are effective ways to reduce abortion numbers, most of which revolve around sex ed, increased welfare payments, better access to health care and better access to birth control. These fucks aren't out there protesting for universal basic income to lift women out of grinding poverty, or for better birth control, education and health care. They aren't at the other end, working to improve the foster system and state care. They just hate that women might be outside of the control of a man and / or might be having sex, those brazen hussies.
These are the fuckers that think The Handmaid's Tale is aspirational.
Look, im pro birth control and pro abortions, but lets not pretend that the people you refer too are anything but bible thumpers that believe both using birth control and abortions are “altering gods plan,” which is the reason they protest both. You can’t convince me the people out there are doing it to try and punish women for having sex.
They are trying to punish women for having recreational sex. If you talk to them and ask the right questions they’ll admit that they believe that because women biologically gestate, that we don’t deserve equal rights over our bodies and women who don’t accept their role as gestator are evil witches.
What if god's plan is that some people will get a safe abortion and some of his followers are shown to be 'dicks'?
Apparently an abortion remedy is in the Bible, right?
Being against expanding abortions past where they're allowed now isn't the same as being anti choice in general, let alone being the type of psychos actively protesting outside clinics
Sex is for the person you care about. Emotionally and physically. Not just to have a good time.
If you have sex just make sure it’s the one you want to be with the rest of your life. If not then take responsibility for your actions.
Says who? That's just your opinion and one that is most definitely in the minority. Why can't you care about more than one person in your life. Sex with one person is fun. Sex with a different person is usually quite different and also fun. Hell sex with multiple people at one time can be loads of fun. What if you don't want to be with someone the rest of your life? It's perfectly reasonable but no reason to not experience the joy of sex. Having an abortion is taking responsibility for your actions. Using birth control and condoms is taking responsiblity for your actions. Leaving a relationship that you thought would be for life but turns out you want something different in life is taking responsiblity for your actions. Sex is fun, sex is loving. Have as much as you desire whether you want kids or not. Take responsibility and have an abortion if need be. Sounds like a lot better outlook on life to me.
That’s a really fucking stupid response for anyone who doesn’t want to or can’t carry a child. The partner in that scenario is pretty fucking irrelevant if you can’t care for a child anyway.
If there's one thing I've learned in politics it's that you shouldn't depend on people that disagree with a position to tell you why people hold that position. When you do that, you're painting a picture of a person that isn't a normal person, and they might not even exist
This is the narrative that the hard-Left has ingrained into your head. It's actually impossible to think that some people see unborn children as actual humans, huh?
It's actually impossible to think that some people see unborn children as actual humans, huh?
Yeah you people say this and then peddle shit about how birth control is immoral or straight up lie and tell people it doesn't work, and the excuse is always that people shouldn't be having sex outside of marriage because of, vestigial or genuine, religious reasons. No social safety nets, no family planning, no sex ed beyond "don't do it," not even assistance with prenatal care which is something you'd think you people would give half a shit about considering how say you care about "unborn babies."
You might fool sheltered morons on the internet by pretending none of this reflects the average pro-life person, but anyone who lives in a heavily conservative area knows better. No need to make anything up when they tell you outright what they believe and why when you ask them about it, which I have and I do. If you want people to think you actually care about fetuses and babies, maybe your actions and policy objectives should reflect that because frankly it's insanely obvious it was all bullshit the second its born. If men could get abortions then you'd be able to get one at a fucking gas station because god forbid you tell a god fearing american man what he can and can't do to his body or even just ask him to do in the case of vaccinations.
If you want to save fetuses, maybe you should be working on inventing artificial wombs where fetuses can develop without being attached to the body of someone who wants nothing to do with it. I'm looking forward to the dipshit arguments from pro-lifers about why that's immoral too. I know it's fun to be able to tell people what to do without actually having to pay a couple bucks more on your taxes, but nobody is going to believe you when you say it's because you care. I have lost count at how many times I've heard pro-life people actually say that part of why they are against abortion is because there should be consequences for having sex. Consequences. Like it's a fucking crime. Saddest thing is that you see that sentiment most often from pro-life women, but maybe that's because the men realize it's not politically savvy to say that out loud themselves.
While I agree banning protesting in general would be considered bad, what they're doing isn't protesting. It's harassment. They're just trying to intimidate and shame people who are accessing a service that's completely legal.
If they wanted to protest, they would do so to in a way to get the attention of lawmakers.
They don't give a shit about babies. The GOP has voted time and time again to take away healthcare, and the social safety net. It's one of their favorite culture war issues.
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u/slugsliveinmymouth 15d ago
I’ll never forget the time my girlfriend came back from a planned parenthood in tears because 50 or so women were shouting baby killer and whore at her. The best part is she wasn’t even getting an abortion. She was getting prenatal vitamins for a healthier pregnancy.