I remember a Last Week Tonight episode where they showed anti-abortion activists having set up similiarly named ”clinics” with very visible signs just about next door of the places people were actually looking for. They would then offer ”help” to those unfortunate enough to walk in.
I’m from Europe and my knowledge comes from a entertainment show, but i found it absolutely bonkers that those instances do not need to state that they do not offer abortions, and it’s A-OK to keep your customer thinking that you do. Just stringing somebody along who is probably a complete mess long enough that legal abortion is off the table.
This is true. And in the days when the Yellow Pages were how folks found out about local businesses, they would pay to be listed under “Abortion services.” These days they have to classify themselves as “pregnancy crisis centers” or something similar- which is better but not by much.
Their main thing is offering abortion (but never actually calling it that) at an insanely cheap price, then stringing the women along until it’s legally too late or they can convince her her body is not her own.
Yeah I read a girls story where the crisis center said they would help her and then one it was passed the mark where she could get an abortion in her state they abandoned her completely, and she was pregnant with twins. She said it ruined her life.
This is all about creating desperate people to exploit. American evangelical christianity has become heretical. If they were real Christian's theyd know Jesus is the kind of guy who would spend all day braiding a whip so he could beat the shit out of Christian's like these.
Take a look at Poland, they've gone the other way.
We have abortion clinics in the Czech Republic now that only employ Polish speakers and serve only Polish women who have crossed the border to get help
I've often thought maybe these unwanted babies are more likely to end up as cannon fodder for the military or slave labour within the prison system.
I'm a very pragmatic person, every child born is another drain on the world's limited resources, another consumer and contributor to pollution - as we all are. Why bring an unwanted person into the world? Life is tough enough when you're loved and wanted by your parents, let alone when you're not.
Anyway, abortion is supported in the Bible if you look at the "trial of the bitter water" which was supposed to make a woman miscarry if she was pregnant as a result of adultery- Numbers 5:11-31.
You know why it’s in the Bible that way? Because like today nobody is going to raise and take care of a child that’s not their own. Pretty smart in my book.
IIRC, one of the reasons they call it a 'crisis pregnancy center' is because in the days before abortions were legal, every ER had a dedicated ICU for catastrophic pregnancy complications resulting from attempted at-home abortions. These were for injuries from women who had tried to perform their own abortions with coat hangers, pills, and chemicals. People who had tried to douche with bleach or other strong solvents or had poisoned themselves with things in order to prevent their pregnancies.
People these days don't remember those horrors because Roe v. Wade was roughly 50 years ago; thankfully we haven't needed those sorts of dedicated ICUs anymore.
Yep, coworker was promised all this help post birth and they gave her a package of diapers and that was it, no more help after that. Horrible people that do that to pregnant women.
Your missing the entire point of responsibility and accountability. I’m not against abortions but I understand why people are upset about it. Yeah it’s not the babies fault you decided to have sex and it is a bad choice to be very sexual and not have a stable income. My mom had my sister at 16 and then me at 23. My sister was unplanned but she made it through and we all live good.
So your saying that when a young person is irresponsible and lacks accounting (as a young person once, we tend to be that way), what will really make them responsible and accountable is forcing them to raise a child they never intended to have with no income and little support?
Okay so if a kid murders someone do we force them to serve full time or the death penalty? Or do we teach them better and send them back where they started.
We take a proactive steps to enable them for success in the first place, and were they and we as a society fail, we correct for future generations.
If they murdered for food, why did we let them starve to the point they killed someone? Who is more evil, the one who killed for food, or the one who did not share his food to avoid a killing?
Same thing can be applied to all cases. Understand, and then you have the answer. Then you can take action.
I agree with everything until you said share his food to avoid killing. Why is rape even a thing today? Why was he given no sex? That’s how I’m seeing that.
While I appreciate your attempt to twist my words, sex is not an essential need for individual human beings.
A person can go years without sex without adverse effects. I'm sure you are a prime candidate to present that evidence first hand, so I'll defer to your celibate expertise.
Like that even reminds me of arguments about the native Americans and the colonist. So you are saying the native Americans should have given them everything they had to avoid killing? I’m sure they needed the food in a foreign place stockpiling for winter and more colonist to come fed.
Are you aware of American Thanksgiving? Thats literally what it was, giving food to the colonists so the colonist would not starve to death. The native americans had a teaching society.
Later, when colonists started taking advantage, the the native americans became warlike, but lacked the technology and large groups for fighting.
Colonists had a large society behind them to build advance weapons (for the time), and drill tactics for war. Colonists had horses and native americans did not. Colonists contiuned to evolve thier weapons and tactics.
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u/Akiba89 15d ago
Wow that's incredibly fucked up...