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N.Korea passes law declaring itself a nuclear weapons state - KCNA North Korea
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/nkorea-passes-law-declaring-itself-nuclear-weapons-state-kcna-2022-09-08/4.9k
u/MrFunktasticc
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You can’t just say you’re a nuclear state Michael.
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u/Packwood88 Sep 09 '22
They didn’t say it, they declared it.
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u/GabeSter Sep 09 '22
Until you find out what Russia trades for “military equipment”
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u/Ivanthegorilla Sep 09 '22
russia is where the US has been getting uranium lately
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u/jacknifetoaswan Sep 09 '22
To be fair, it was being sourced by dismantling Soviet-era nuclear weapons.
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u/RayTracing_Corp Sep 09 '22
No wtf is this misinformation. Uranium is mined in Russia.
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u/FavChuck Sep 09 '22
Also mined in Saskatchewan but hardly anybody wants our ethically mined safe uranium!
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u/lol_no_gonna_happen Sep 09 '22
Yeah and I was pissed off about this a long time ago
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u/SirPryceMF Sep 09 '22
They've got plenty of nukes to blow up the entire planet several times over. If anything, that's what we should be pissed off about.
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u/HereIGoAgain_1x10 Sep 09 '22
So does the US, doesn't matter. Both nations' have several nukes all pointing at the same super important targets. Military bases, port cities, the other person's nukes, major manufacturing hubs... They're not just gonna trust a single missile to get through defenses and hit a certain important target. But regardless, the resulting loss of life, damage to Earth's ecosystem, and most importantly the destruction of the infrastructure of said nuclear powers would result in a major Nuclear Winter event and begin a new "dark age", assuming it wasn't just a couple nukes by each nation.
There are dozens of nukes that would immediately be triggered if an attack was authorized from submarines, silos, bombers. The POTUS wouldn't just go one at a time. We're talking potentially hundreds, all launched within minutes to knock out as many of Russia's nukes as possible. This would make the effects WW1 and WW2 had on humanity look like a small skirmish. A billion people dead first month just from the blasts and immediate radiation poisoning. Another few billion first year d/t starvation, radiation illness, continued wars by surviving armies, etc. Many other nations would be attacked, this would just be Russia vs US, it'd be Russia vs US/Europe and it'd be tough for China/Pakistan/India not to get trigger happy with missiles flying all over their radars.
The next 50 years would just be a lot more people dying than being successfully born and raised. Probably less than a billion people left alive world wide while huge areas of Earth turns into Chernobyl. This is simply because while most nuke tests occurred underground, actual attacks would be air burst and spread over vast areas with much more debris and fallout. Habitable places are ruined, while inhospitable areas like deserts and mountains are safe but difficult to live in. Oceans might die off and truly ruin Earth's biosphere, making it completely uninhabitable.
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u/Fendibull Sep 09 '22
Man made Armageddon/apocalypse. These war mongering human just help God alot when it comes for an end times scenario
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u/MrWeirdoFace Sep 09 '22
1, 2, 3, 4. I declare a thumb war.
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u/MagicMushroomFungi Sep 09 '22
5, 6, 7 ,8. You just lost to a nuclear state.
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u/MrWeirdoFace Sep 09 '22
9, 10, 11, 12 You ain't got no food to shelve.
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u/MagicMushroomFungi Sep 09 '22
Actually we do have very full shelves and expect to live quite comfortablely for a week or so until the looters find us.
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u/shindokabuki Sep 09 '22
In that case, I too declare i am a nuclear state.
I also declare taco bells bean burrito solid 420 food
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u/bob_marley98 Sep 09 '22
Chili cheese burrito with volcano sauce is 420 food and explosive #2 generator... it puts your ass in a nuclear state....
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u/SirPryceMF Sep 09 '22
I. DECLARE. NUCLEAR STATEHOOOOOOOOOD.
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u/dikputinya Sep 09 '22
This made me think team America Kim singing I’m so lonely for some reason
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u/nomadiclizard Sep 09 '22
We see you have joined the nuclear club. We shall respect your deterrent, but should you try to blackmail us our retaliation will be swift and crushing!
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u/BeigeChocobo Sep 08 '22
I just passed a law saying I have a 12 inch hog
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u/Zelgoot Sep 09 '22
That’s a small hog.
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u/BeigeChocobo Sep 09 '22 •
Regardless, it's the law.
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u/Browniepoop-_- Sep 09 '22
Lmao
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u/Ergotnometry Sep 09 '22
I dunno, just because it's small doesn't mean it isn't useless... (SFW)
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u/Monster_Voice Sep 08 '22
But seriously tho... this is actually moderately concerning considering Russia needs a shit load of conventional ordinance right now, but has an obscene stockpile of surplus nuclear weapons... and NK has a shit load of conventional ordinance and wants legitimate nuclear capability.
Yikes...
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u/hokie47 Sep 09 '22
Also russia can only date the most ugliest of mates today.
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u/Daikataro Sep 09 '22
Beggars can't be choosers
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u/Space_Meth_Monkey Sep 09 '22
Turn those lights off and get to work
-my boy shamar from high-school
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u/BakedBurntoutCooked Sep 09 '22
Lol at "operation tin cup" being the actual name of their trade program
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u/Commander_Fenrir Sep 09 '22
N. Korea already has nukes, the one thing they need it's a way to give them maintenance and the reach of an ICBM.
It will depend on China. If China says that it's ok for their side-kick to be able to do M.A.D. then it's ok.
But I don't see China being well with that. Far too much independence for N. Korea it's bad for them. Though China and Russia have a history of back-stabbing each other to come to the top. So, we shall see.
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u/velveteentuzhi Sep 09 '22
China wants the status quo- having a flood of refugees at your border, many of whom don't speak your language, have parasites and illnesses (look up N. Korea and parasites) will destabilize your country and politics.
China wants N. Korea to remain as it is- a hermit state with enough power to be a buffer state and not a wave of refugees, but still dependent on China.
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u/peepeedog Sep 09 '22
This is the dumbest fucking thread in ages. People in here that don't know North Korea already has nuclear weapons. Known fact from testing. Not some propaganda.
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u/TheNaijaboi Sep 09 '22
It’s kind of scary how people are more likely to get their information from the comment section than the actual articles here.
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u/Monster_Voice Sep 09 '22
crickets chirping
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u/MagicMushroomFungi Sep 09 '22
(camera slowly zooms in on the crikets, a brilliant flash of white light accompanied by searing heat suddenly inciner
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u/Ilya-ME Sep 09 '22
I mean, they already have a couple dozen anyways so what’s the harm? /s
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u/sharpbranches Sep 09 '22
Attacking Ukraine is seriously dumber than giving North Korea some nukes.
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u/darkdex52 Sep 09 '22
I don't think it was dumber, at least not from precedent viewpoint. Russia already fucked up it's neighbor Georgia 10 years before and nobody lifted a finger except a stern letter. Same when they took Crimea, literally no repercussions. Neither did anything happen when they did the "vacationing not really our troops" tactic in Transnistria.
From Putin's viewpoint, nobody was gonna give a shit just like before. And tbf, if nobody did give a shit, Ukraine I think would've already been theirs by now.
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u/h0bb1tm1ndtr1x Sep 09 '22
Yeah, I was going to say they pulled their mentally stunted card already.
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u/mmmsausages Sep 09 '22
The same people that hired north koreans to do slave labor logging and other such shitty jobs no one wants to do in siberia lol.. Russia has been a bad country for a VERY long time.
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u/APsWhoopinRoom Sep 09 '22
North Korea's ordinance is likely even more outdated than Russia's
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u/Monster_Voice Sep 09 '22
Russia was using WW2 leftovers there for a while 😳
One of the biggest issues with some of those old explosives would be chemical stability if I had to guess. I know some high explosives degrade or somehow the nitroglycerin separates out and they can become extremely shock sensitive... but my explosive chemistry background isn't exactly the best lol.
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u/ryoushi19 Sep 09 '22
It's just kinda wacky that so much of their conventional ordinance is old Soviet hardware.
If what you're implying is true, it'd be Russia trading nuclear weapons for their old garbage.
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u/PizzaRnnr054 Sep 09 '22
That’s what I’m saying and everyone has told me from the start not to worry.
How does Putin not go out like hitler at a point? There’s clearly ways that this will end differently. I don’t think he’s taking cyanide or moving to Brazil.
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u/peepeedog Sep 09 '22
North Korea has nuclear weapons. They have tested them. We have detected their explosion. This isn't some smoke screen.
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u/ExquisitExamplE Sep 09 '22
You need a strong deterrent just in case the bloodthirsty Americans come back and attempt to brutalize your people again. It's absolutely disgusting what we did to their country.
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u/random_structure Sep 09 '22
wants legitimate nuclear capability
Did you not get the memo where they detonated a hydrogen bomb and tested an ICBM able to hit the entire US?
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u/Inithis Sep 09 '22
One nuclear missile without a maneuvering hypersonic reentry vehicle does not a legitimate nuclear capability make.
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u/Monster_Voice Sep 09 '22
Actually no I didn't... like an actual hydrogen bomb? I knew they'd blown up a few fission bombs which is the hardest part.
Honestly I have more faith in their actual warheads than their delivery system. Once you get past the point where you can enrich several pounds of Uranium 235 or make Plutonium, there's really not much else to a fission bomb... throw it in a styrofoam cooler with a few radioactive hydrogen isotopes and you got a big boy though.
Long range rocket engines are much more complex... (sadly).
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u/random_structure Sep 09 '22
Yep, something like 250+ kilotons, so it's almost surely an H bomb. Their rockets fly fine too, the only question I believe is whether they have a small enough bomb to ride on one and a reentry vehicle. That was many years ago though, they likely have this figured out by now.
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u/TurkeyBLTSandwich Sep 09 '22
Yeah...
Japan's not gonna like this and they've been more aware of the threats posed by China and Russia on their borders. With the last U.S. administration being fairly Luke warm towards prior alliances and pacts japan has been trying to push away from pacifism and adopt a more aggressive stance. Much to the chagrin of China and Korea.
I think the question now lies, will Japan start taking an Isareli style approach towards North Korea or will they sit back and hope America comes in and intercedes..
A more aggressive posture will alienate the already strained relationship with South Korea, but doing nothing will also cause unease within the Japanese population.
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Sep 09 '22
Why do you say Japan instead of South Korea? Surely South Korea is much more threatened.
I’m not sure anyone can take an Israeli type of approach to North Korea. It works for Israel because of their insane intelligence capability and control over Palestine, but due to North Korea’s extreme isolationism this seems completely impossible.
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u/volcanohybrid Sep 09 '22
By Israeli approach do you mean declaring north Korea as part of Japan and forcibly moving Japanese settlers in?
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u/Jeep-RN Sep 08 '22
I was wonder how Russia paid for rockets and artillery shells.
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u/Shiplord13 Sep 08 '22
It’s just like that time they sold a bunch of military ships to Pepsi as payment for soda.
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u/2007xn Sep 09 '22
Ah, the time when Pepsi had the 6th largest navy in the world. Take that, Coca-Cola.
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u/Usman5432 Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 09 '22
I seem to recall Coca Cola doing something with central america Edit: looked it up the had paramilitary contractors carry out several human rights violations including kidnapping torture and murder in Colombia, so Pepsi may have had a Navy but Coke has a Black Ops army
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u/theRemRemBooBear Sep 09 '22
They actually didn’t lol, they never got any ships from it and the ships they were going to get were tankers and large cargo ships not retired warships. But they never got any of the cargo ships because the Soviet Union collapsed before any of the first couple of ships had even been completed
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u/MonsignorJabroni Sep 09 '22
Yep I totally fell for this story one time and told a few people before coming to my senses and googling the truth.
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u/Maximumnuke Sep 09 '22
They traded their artillery for the artillery shells... wait a minute...
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u/LeviAEthan512 Sep 09 '22
It's like they went to the bank to get change for $10000 bills that no one accepts
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u/SatanTheSanta Sep 09 '22
Never actually happened. It was planned, but then fell through.
Later the deal was changed to where USSR would build new cargo ships for Pepsi to sell, but whilst Pepsi held up their part, USSR fell apart and they never built any of the ships.
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u/imwalkinhyah Sep 09 '22
Since when? Thought they immediately resold the Pepsi fleet and afaik nothing online says otherwise
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u/littleMAS Sep 09 '22
Oil? Putin is having a petro sale to grease the skids.
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u/BallardRex Sep 09 '22
I love that the real answer is this far down, as though Russia was going to transfer an ICBM. North Korea is desperate for fuel, they’re not hurting for artillery, it was a simple trade.
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u/The-link-is-a-cock Sep 09 '22
Yup and highly doubt China would be cool with other countries trading NK nukes. If China was OK with NK having nukes then they would have just given them nukes.
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u/khalamar Sep 08 '22
Now I picture Kim shouting "I DECLARE BANK... NUCLEAR WEAPONS STATE"
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u/Saaamwise Sep 09 '22
Hey, I just wanted you to know that you can't just say nuclear weapons state and expect
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u/alwayzdizzy Sep 08 '22
Wait, you can do declare yourself ____ now??
I DECLARE MYSELF SEXY AF.
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u/brian-0blivion Sep 08 '22 •
I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!
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u/Magus_5 Sep 09 '22
I DECLARE THUMB WAR!
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u/echosixwhiskey Sep 09 '22
Dude you CHEATED!! You have to say 1, 2, 3, 4 before you say that. Ok, ready?
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u/autotldr BOT Sep 09 '22
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 61%. (I'm a bot)
SEOUL, Sept 9 - North Korea has passed a law officially enshrining its nuclear weapons policies, a move that leader Kim Jong Un said makes its nuclear status "Irreversible" and bars any negotiation on denuclearisation, state media reported on Friday.
The North's rubber-stamp parliament, the Supreme People's Assembly, passed the law on Thursday, according to state news agency KCNA. The law outlines when nuclear weapons can be used, including to protect the country's strategic assets and if it is attacked.
"The utmost significance of legislating nuclear weapons policy is to draw an irretrievable line so that there can be no bargaining over our nuclear weapons," Kim said in a speech to the Supreme People's Assembly.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: nuclear#1 North#2 Korea#3 weapons#4 law#5
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u/Neaderthar Sep 09 '22
Quote from GoT " Any man who must say , " I am the king; is no true king!" Comes to mind
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u/Ilya-ME Sep 09 '22
That’s the thing, they’re not pretending to be Kings of the world, they’re just posturing to avoid being invaded by superpowers again.
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u/stephawkins Sep 09 '22
Next week, NK declares itself the Mitochondria State. It's the powerhouse of the world.
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u/Spadrick Sep 08 '22
No true king has to say that they are king.
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u/pconners Sep 09 '22
Yeah, they get it out of their system while they are prince, "oh I just can't wait to be king!"
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u/yeskaScorpia Sep 09 '22
The fact that they declared that, makes me think they don't have nuclear weapons.
Somehow, at the same time, Israel not confirming if they have nuclear weapons ... makes me think they really have nuclear weapons
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u/Thorwawaway Sep 09 '22
I mean, US govt has confirmed NK did 6 nuclear weapons tests. That they possess some basic nuclear devices is not really in question.
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u/LiliNotACult Sep 09 '22
Yeah. IIRC the only debate was whether they had the delivery systems to make said nukes a thread to countries other than South Korea & Japan. They did tests that confirmed they had long range missiles back during Trump's time.
It's weird how people forget major things like this over time.
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u/Beezel_Pepperstack Sep 08 '22
My ass just passed a "law" declaring itself a nuclear weapons state too.
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u/ComfortablyNomNom Sep 09 '22
Your roommates have issued sanctions on your Taco Bell supply.
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u/BeltfedOne Sep 08 '22
That is so cute. Nobody wants to invade your shithole country. South Korea and everyone else wants you to feed your people.
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u/BeraldGevins Sep 09 '22
NK is actually sitting on a pretty large amount of rare earth metals, which are useful in the production of computer chips and other kinds of technology. I think more people would be interested in gaining access to that than you would expect. It’s not worth the millions of deaths, but one day that may change.
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u/chippeddusk Sep 09 '22
NK is actually sitting on a pretty large amount of rare earth metals
My understanding is that rare earth minerals aren't actually rare. They're found pretty much everywhere but they will make up only a small bit of the local geological composition. Some areas do have a higher composition rare earth metals, but these areas too aren't particularly rare.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/rare-earth-elements-where-in-the-world-are-they/
https://www.ispionline.it/en/publication/scramble-africas-rare-earths-china-not-alone-30725
China and Russia, among others, do have high known deposits of rare earth metals, but this is probably due in part to them looking for such reserves more aggressively. If you're the USA or Australia or whatever you'd rather not extract them if possible.
Why?The problem with rare earth metals is that extracting and refining them is hell and many methods generate a lot of pollution and will destroy large areas. You'll end up excavating huge amounts of soil and then dumping it into toxic, polluting acid ponds.
https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining
We could do similar things in the United States, Australia, etc and in fact we do on a limited scale. But in general governments don't want it happening on their soil. Better to let someone else destroy their local environment.
Anyway, I don't think you'd go to war to try to take over rare earth metals. It'd be cheaper and less destructive (than a war) to simply find deposits elsewhere and extract them, I'd wager.
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u/ohcanadada67 Sep 09 '22
I love that a part of me reads this in Homer Simpson’s voice as he attempts to lecture his brilliant daughter Lisa, and adds “Nobody wants to invade your shithole country yet!
Adds “It’s not worth the millions of deaths yet, Lisa!”
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u/ctid2010rawr Sep 09 '22
They actually have some pretty beautiful ski destinations. I wouldn’t mind invading them.
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u/skeetsauce Sep 09 '22
Apparently there's some pretty nice golf courses too, not that I'm any good at/care about golf.
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u/2007xn Sep 09 '22
Nobody wants to invade your shithole country.
☠️ The shithole country wants to invade South Korea though. And it's not like the first time.
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u/TheMightyTywin Sep 09 '22
They wouldn’t even need to invade. South Korea wants unification.
That would involve dismantling the dictatorship though.
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u/lastdropfalls Sep 09 '22
Ironically, South Korea's supposed biggest ally, the US, does not want unification and has repeatedly obstructed any attempts to move in that direction.
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u/lol_no_gonna_happen Sep 09 '22
Dude don't be ignorant. NK knows how to make weapons
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u/TangoKlass Sep 09 '22
I mean, they do have functional nuclear weapons, and pseudo ballistic missiles, so they’re not wrong.
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u/justyouraveragejoe07 Sep 09 '22
Great just what we needed...while everyone is distracted by the Queen of England's passing, North Korea is literally declaring it has nukes. Whether or not it's true...the fact it's intentions are clear as day now is a major crisis.
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u/Diamondsfullofclubs Sep 09 '22
the fact it's intentions are clear as day now is a major crisis.
Their intentions have always been apparent.
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Sep 09 '22
Someone must’ve blabbed in a love letter to dear Kim about a certain neighboring country’s nuclear capabilities. Gee, I wonder who that might have been.
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u/FM-101 Sep 09 '22
Im 35 and North Korea has been threatening nukes for at least as long as i have been alive.
North Korea will say shit like this every 3-6 months and its always "for real this time". Sometimes accompanied by a rocket that they shoot into the ocean for some reason.
Nothing to worry about. They literally just want attention to stroke Kim's ego.
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Sep 09 '22
North Korea passes law saying North Korea is the best Korea!
North Korea passes law saying 70% BMI is actually a healthy bodyweight for world leaders!
North Korea passes law saying, “BTS isn’t that good, despite the Dear Leader finding some of their songs catchy.”
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u/HuangHuaYu49 Sep 09 '22
Say what you want about North Korea, but at least they have the balls to come out and say they have nuclear weapons cough cough Israel
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u/splinereticulation68 Sep 09 '22
Obama awarding Obama a medal meme
Nobody cares about your posturing except the tankies, it's 2022, go treat your people better and stop robbing cryptocurrency
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u/kemar7856 Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 09 '22
If I was Kim Jong un I would never give up my nukes. It's the only thing stopping the rest of the world from walking over them
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u/lejoo Sep 09 '22
I like how everyone is making jokes like they haven't been working towards this since before your dad met your mother.
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u/ezzie_r Sep 09 '22
I'm just fucking scared at this point. Wake me up when September ends. Literally.
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u/khalamar Sep 08 '22
They also call themselves a democratic republic, so...