r/worldnews Nov 02 '22

N Korea fires missile across maritime border North Korea

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63481183
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u/bribrah Nov 02 '22

How much more serious is this than all the other times they have fired missiles?

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u/12stepCornelius Nov 02 '22

It's escalating. Whether or not it de-escalates is now anyone's guess. But I think NK is becoming emboldened by Russia and China when it comes to these recent responses towards the West's military exercises in the region.

"In protest of the joint US-South Korea drill, Pyongyang seems to have staged the most aggressive and threatening armed demonstration against the South since 2010," Cheong Seong-chang, a researcher at the Sejong Institute told AFP.

In March 2010, a North Korean submarine torpedoed the South Korean naval vessel Cheonan, killing 46 sailors including 16 who were on their mandatory military service.

In November the same year, the North shelled a South Korean border island, killing two marines -- both of them young conscripts.

"It is now a dangerous and unstable situation that could lead to armed conflicts," he added.

The test follows a recent blitz of launches, including what the North said were tactical nuke drills, that Washington and Seoul have repeatedly warned could culminate in another nuclear test -- which would be Pyongyang's seventh.

The Vigilant Storm air drills were preceded by 12 days of amphibious naval exercises.

"As far as I can remember, North Korea has never made such a provocation when South Korea and the US were holding their joint drills," Park Won-gon, a professor at Ewha University, told AFP.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

That’s what I’m wondering? Should we be concern now or?

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u/amnes1ac Nov 02 '22

I don't think so. Way too early to be concerned about serious escalation.

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u/mrjigglyman Nov 02 '22

inb4 we’re at war in the morning lol. /s

But for real can we just fucking not 😩

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u/amnes1ac Nov 02 '22

Eh I've been watching North Korea closely for over a decade now. This is literally nothing. For now at least.

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u/mrjigglyman Nov 02 '22

Lol, I doubt this gets purposely escalated to anything at present, on a serious note.

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u/mindmountain Nov 02 '22

Who is ‘we’?

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u/mrjigglyman Nov 02 '22

I was implying the U.S. here unfortunately.

Notice you’re from across the pond, your PM getting absolutely shredded the other day was hilarious. Best politics I’ve seen in a minute.

Her vs that head of lettuce was gold.

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u/mindmountain Nov 02 '22

The US are involved in every war on Reddit.

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u/mrjigglyman Nov 02 '22

Well… yes we make up 40% of global exports for military equipment… so that makes sense!

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

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u/lyciwmifaswxatylrk Nov 02 '22

It's like if you were surrounded by police telling you to drop the gun in your hands, but instead of complying, you point the gun and start firing at their feet. Absolutely brain dead decision. Kimmy has no regard for anyone's safety at this point.

Wellll... NK has fired a whole bunch of missiles over the years and all the world does is send some strong words and sanctions.

So it's more like you're surrounded by the security guards telling you to drop the gun, but you know that they're unarmed and they probably won't do much to you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

North Korea has fired a missile towards the South, which crossed the two countries' maritime border for the first time since the peninsula's split.

…First sentence in the article…

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u/bribrah Nov 02 '22

Im aware, my question is how serious is this...

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u/binomine Nov 02 '22

It is an escalation, but it isn't serious by itself. Nk tends to saber rattle two times a year. Fall near the US elections and winter, when they need the west to send them food.

Obviously, if NK continues, it might be something more, but if they do what they have always done, they will quiet down for some time, then continue their never ending conflict with the sea of Japan in a few months.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

which crossed the two countries' maritime border for the first time since the peninsula's split.

Can’t really help you out there if you can’t pick context from that. In reality there probably won’t be any more shooting, NK won’t retaliate if they do they will get destroyed, but that could be real shitty for people in SK to be that close. I imagine they have good missile defense systems protecting the cities

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u/Stachemaster86 Nov 02 '22

My understanding is the North is just “flexing.” The maritime border noted was established by the South but not recognized by the North. North fired the missile into international water where it then crossed the South’s “line” that doesn’t exist as it’s too far out at sea. This is like when Russia buzzes international waters off Alaska and US planes say hello. They’re not breaking any rules, just testing the other and again “flexing.” For everyone, yes this is jackassery for sure but the world leaders all play with these international waters boundaries all the time.

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u/SeaRaiderII Nov 02 '22

South Korean jets fired 4 missiles back , Japan is doing emergency security counsel. It's fckd rn

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u/MrBoomBox69 Nov 02 '22

3* as per the article

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u/sarmanikan Nov 02 '22

Source on South Korea firing back and Japan emergency security counsel?

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u/Crenshawd Nov 02 '22

The OP’s linked article in the post.

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u/phoenixmusicman Nov 02 '22

Redditor reading more than just the headline challenge (impossible)

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u/JustAnotherRndomBro Nov 02 '22

its literally in the article linked, did you even read it?

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u/sarmanikan Nov 02 '22

Wow, I failed my reading comprehension check tonight. Thanks!

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u/JustAnotherRndomBro Nov 02 '22

We all make mistakes sometimes.

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u/bunnylove5811 Nov 02 '22

Like, do you even read bro?

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

The article linked 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/sarmanikan Nov 02 '22

Yeah, I failed at reading tonight...

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

I figured it was standard not reading the article on Reddit :p

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u/mypoorliver Nov 02 '22

Oh boy....

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u/autotldr BOT Nov 02 '22

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 79%. (I'm a bot)


North Korea has fired a missile towards the South, which crossed the two countries' maritime border for the first time since the peninsula's split.

Later on Wednesday, South Korea's military said it had fired three air-to-ground missiles towards north of its maritime border, in response to the North's launch.

North Korea's launches on Wednesday follows a blitz of missiles it fired last month which it said were also in response to US, South Korea and Japan joint drills.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: South#1 Korea#2 missile#3 North#4 fired#5

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

Can they please just chill for a second!

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u/Sanhen Nov 02 '22

It’s weird how much the goal posts have moved for me. Maybe five years ago, I would have suggested that a nuclear-armed North Korea potentially resuming their war with South Korea or otherwise crossing a red line that led to war involving nukes was a truly chilling prospect.

Now I barely even care about what North Korea does in the face of Russia’s aggression with their far larger nuclear arsenal.

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u/Taiyaki11 Nov 02 '22

Now I barely even care about what North Korea does in the face of Russia's aggression

That probably explains the hissy fit tbh, between Ukraine and the recent fit between China and the US with the Pelosi visit nobody was paying any attention to North Korea and Kim can't have that

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u/Sinkie12 Nov 02 '22

The constant threats worked against them, people eventually grow numb and turn defiant instead.

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u/staebles Nov 02 '22

I feel you, but it's troubling. Things like this and countries like these, can be the tinder that starts those fires ablaze.

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u/GhostalMedia Nov 02 '22

If you lived in South Korea you’d certainly care.

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u/CyroSwitchBlade Nov 02 '22

I live in South Korea.. I woke up this morning to loud speakers blasting shit about this I ain't even understand..

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u/SuperBenOi Nov 02 '22

It's so frustrating how these provocations play out. Slow but steady increments of pollution.

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u/staebles Nov 02 '22

Before we kill ourselves, we must torture ourselves first.

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u/Baebel Nov 02 '22

Little foreplay couldn't hurt.

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u/horan07 Nov 02 '22

Can’t you just fucking wait until the other fucking war is over? Jfc

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u/Attoparsecs Nov 02 '22

Can't have WW3 without the Pacific theatre.

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u/CPL-Weeks Nov 02 '22

This is what happens when you order your guidance system from Alibaba.com.

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u/Ct-5736-Bladez Nov 02 '22

In a few decades history will call this, Cold War 2: the 2020s

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u/SaltyTrog Nov 02 '22

2 Cold 2 War

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u/QuitYour Nov 02 '22

Cold War 2: The Meltdown

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u/Buckles21 Nov 02 '22

Who left the fridge open, again?

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u/Advanced_Unit420 Nov 02 '22

Kimmy is going to get fucked if he keeps this up

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u/Special-Ad-2226 Nov 02 '22

Maybe he's into that

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u/tomorrow509 Nov 02 '22

Plan A. Keep N. Korea pissed off until they've fired all available missiles into the sea. Those poor fish.

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u/staebles Nov 02 '22

Do they explode when they hit water?

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u/Affectionate_Elk_272 Nov 02 '22

they’re NK missles, after seeing how inept russia is, i’d be surprised if they exploded at all.

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u/bfolksdiddy Nov 02 '22

Kim jong un is like tinker bell. He needs attention or applause on the world stage for concessions or he’ll die. He’s even used the War in the Ukraine for much needed attention. Post Covid, North Koreas likely hiding multiple humanitarian disasters. Kim wants a seat back at the table to pretend it will denuclearize.

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u/Talon6230 Nov 02 '22

Oh good. Good timing.

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u/CaptainFunBags1 Nov 02 '22

Oh, it’s that time of the month again is it

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u/InsecurityTime Nov 02 '22

Reality isn't present in the North

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u/Obi_Kwiet Nov 02 '22

NK is probably feeling kind of precarious after seeing how things went with Russia and decided to do some token gesture to assert itself without causing any real damage. In the past they've actually shelled civilians.

I don't think it's too big a deal.

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u/sayziell Nov 02 '22

North Korea right now.. Give me attention!!!!

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u/-SPOF Nov 02 '22

How come the world accepts the existence of such countries?

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u/amnes1ac Nov 02 '22

What do you want us to do? Invade?

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u/Thisissocomplicated Nov 02 '22

To be fair the US did invade Iraq for terrorism, which this isn’t much different

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u/amnes1ac Nov 02 '22

And was that a good idea? North Korea also has nukes.

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u/-SPOF Nov 02 '22

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of opportunities to invade quickly and not give a chance to use nuc.

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u/amnes1ac Nov 03 '22

You sure about that? Regardless, Seoul would be flattened by conventional artillery. That's almost 30 million people very close to the North Korean border.

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u/Karlbert86 Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

Hear me out here… this Might just seem like a crazy tin foil conspiracy. But would like to get opinions in this…don’t you think NK is just China’s puppet?

Despite sanctions on NK, trade to and from China has continued for many years. What’s to say that China is not supplying NK with technology and materials to build these weapons? Maybe China is even storing weapons in NK too?

So imagine this… China wants to invade Taiwan. But it can’t with US, SK, and Japan, among other allied forces (Australia, UK, Canada, Europe etc) in the area.

So what if China launches from NK to hit say SK and Japan?

All of a sudden the world is focused on NK with the counter, giving China the carte blanche it needs to attack Taiwan.

Of course Nk would then get destroyed, but I don’t think Kim really gives a fuck about North Koreans.

Edit: other things to suggest China is ready to Invade Taiwan is “zero Covid policy” literally acting like a stress test on citizens, and making them unable to leave China (so they cant flee, so they have to fight) but also brainwashing them to hate the west as Chinese propaganda Blame the US for Covid (via so called “white tailed deer”). But we also now have Xinnie the Pooh forcefully securing his 3rd term.

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u/Goobaka Nov 02 '22

China is most certainly at play. They’re not stupid. Strategy is a war game. Distractions in Europe, distractions in Middle East, NK… Stretch the opposing superpower(s) thin, then make their move on Taiwan or whatever it is they want.

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u/Rhodog1234 Nov 02 '22

I believe the moment the US takes a covert action in the Ukraine theater, China will immediately invade Taiwan...

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u/Sinkie12 Nov 02 '22

How is that a conspiracy lol, it's well known NK is China's puppet. Mainly desperate actions by the new Axis before their eventual collapse. The only question is whether they are willing to engage the US (and their allies) head on.

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u/L0ckeandDemosthenes Nov 02 '22

The plan Russias Putin always had in mind was three fold...

  1. Russia invades Ukraine

  2. N Korea invades SK

  3. China invades Taiwan

They all three got together and had a secret meeting about this a few months before the special operation.

China got cold feet once Russia screwed the whole effort and was uncovered as a paper tiger. Now putin is pushing NK to start phase two to take the pressure off him and hopefully embolden Xi to proceed.

The whole special operation was to test the waters of how the world reacted and see if the juice was worth the squeeze.

This next step is going to show us if we are going to WW3 or not.

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u/tehcraz Nov 02 '22

Source it

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u/Attoparsecs Nov 02 '22

My brian

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u/bratbarn Nov 02 '22

I find Brian to be trustworthy

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

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u/PoofaceMckutchin Nov 02 '22

I live in S. Korea. You might be fine with it, but I don't me or my gf blown the fuck up.

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u/TrueMoose Nov 02 '22

Interested to hear what the rhetoric is like over there? What are local authorities saying? Neighbors / co-workers? What's the stress level, and does this feel like it's about to "pop"?

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u/PoofaceMckutchin Nov 02 '22

Most people aren't aware yet it seems. My colleagues aren't anyway. It's almost 3pm here so we're working and not on the news/internet! That should change in a few hours though...

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u/Attoparsecs Nov 02 '22

It's almost 3pm here so we're working and not on the news/internet!

In the West, we're all on the internet whilst pretending to work.

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u/PoofaceMckutchin Nov 02 '22

I work in a school so you can't really get away with it :-(

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u/The_Red_Curtain Nov 02 '22

Not on the news at all, everyone's attention is on the Itaewon Incident/Tragedy still

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u/staebles Nov 02 '22

"Every time someone tries to win a war before it starts, innocent people die. Every time." - Cap

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u/seasamgo Nov 02 '22

They also die once the war starts anyway. Just facts, not arguing, I think the whole war thing really sucks for almost everyone.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

South Korea and Japan could be North Korea over night but China would prob help North Korea

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u/happymomma40 Nov 02 '22

Never gonna happen. The US would never let Nk take Sk.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

Obviously

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u/Muted_Dog Nov 02 '22

UN aid money must’ve run out.

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u/amnes1ac Nov 02 '22

This is just standard NK bluster. This will blow over in a few days.

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u/TheSniperWolf Nov 02 '22

Where does NK get the materials to build these nukes? Like who is supplying them?

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

If I am not mistaken, this is the first time South Korea, US and Japan take a firm stance and respond in kind to North Korea's escalations. If there is war, it would be undeniable that North Korea started it, and if there isn't it's because NK stopped with this nonesense.

They are being given full control over the direction of this conflict. It's their choice.

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u/soulwolf1 Nov 02 '22

NK playing a very dangerous game

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u/autotldr BOT Nov 02 '22

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 79%. (I'm a bot)


North Korea has fired a missile towards the South, which crossed the two countries' maritime border for the first time since the peninsula's split.

Later on Wednesday, South Korea's military said it had fired three air-to-ground missiles towards north of its maritime border, in response to the North's launch.

North Korea's launches on Wednesday follows a blitz of missiles it fired last month which it said were also in response to US, South Korea and Japan joint drills.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: South#1 Korea#2 missile#3 North#4 fired#5

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u/nooo82222 Nov 02 '22

The koreas finally working together to take down Godzilla.

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u/UrsusMajor53 Nov 02 '22

Maybe Kim has a problem aiming them.

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u/FlightAble2654 Nov 03 '22

So where is severe punishment promised? Keep up with idle threats and soon they will part of North Korea.