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N Korea warns of ‘all-out’ nuclear response to US ‘aggression’ North Korea
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u/ArtLadyCat Nov 19 '22
Is it time for the annual accusation of aggression for checks notes ignoring them? Hm..? Isn’t it early this year?
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u/voidsong Nov 19 '22
Yup winter is coming and they want their yearly food aid.
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u/ArtLadyCat Nov 19 '22
Hm. It often doesn’t even reach the people and they are told a whole different story for what little does rarely reach that once in a blue moon. It mostly goes into the mouths of the already rich.
It’s not sustainable for anyone, especially when people here are already suffering shortages due to price hikes and many issues that created scarcity where it doesn’t need to be.
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u/Shawnj2 Nov 19 '22
Yeah typically it’s around January. Odd it’s early
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u/likejackandsally Nov 19 '22
Supply chain issues for the rest of the world limiting their existing aid and probably expecting a rough winter.
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u/omfsmthefsm Nov 19 '22
That, and they had their "first" or most massive COVID outbreak this year.
I'm not certain what their response was internally, whether they followed the China 0 Covid and locked down the country, or if they kept people at work.
Regardless, poorer/impoverished people, lack of vaccines, and a shut down/sick work force does not breed a surplus of food for the winter. Could be why they're pushing earlier.
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u/vodka_twinkie Nov 19 '22
Did kimmie not get a Taylor Swift ticket or something?
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u/OddEpisode Nov 19 '22 •
Thr price of a ticket is more than the allowance his sister lets him spend.
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u/excessivebaggage Nov 19 '22
Please, I've seen The Interview. He's a Katy Perry fan.
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u/unculturedburnttoast Nov 19 '22
"It's me, I'm the problem" Kim sings unironically while overseeing his own personal, nuclear armed kingdom
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u/W0rdWaster Nov 19 '22
Ignoring them = aggression?
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u/TriesHerm21st Nov 19 '22 •
So Taylor Swift ticket were going for like 27k.
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u/Chemical_Excuse Nov 19 '22
And they'll still charge you a $50 'service fee'
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u/MegaGrimer Nov 19 '22
Then a $50 convenience fee.
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u/brown_nipples Nov 19 '22
Yup. Fuck ticketmaster!
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u/Particular_Fault_480 Nov 19 '22
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u/TriesHerm21st Nov 19 '22
Jesus's holy mother.
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u/jpjtourdiary Nov 19 '22
Wait til you hear the price for a ticket that allows you to buy beer in the venue!
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u/ArthurMidian Nov 19 '22
I think Kim Jong Un cares much more about Katy Perry tickets FYI in case you were looking for a gift
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u/throwaway_nrTWOOO Nov 19 '22
What fucking aggression though?
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u/BadReview8675309 Nov 19 '22
Apparently getting ghosted for a while is a micro aggression or something.
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u/DrT33th Nov 19 '22
I’m no expert, spent two years in South Korea (USAF) and did a little Googling every time that dipshit did something stupid…It’s partially due to military exercises, long term economic and aid sanctions old ref here Basically the guy is an extortionist. Funny how his episodes always seem to follow the US election cycles though. Again, not an expert, just some quick checks . Would be interesting to have an expert break it down.
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u/mctoasterson Nov 19 '22
If you spend any time in South Korea it is really interesting to see how little fucks they give about Kim's constant threats. Western media will cover it but in Seoul the average person does not care if you ask them. It's like they know he is full of shit and is always flexing to extort concessions/aid/attention.
Granted, Seoul itself is said to have enough conventional artillery aimed at it, at any given time, to cause huge damage and loss of life. But South Koreans seem to have gotten used to this status quo and aren't intimidated.
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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Nov 19 '22
I was in Seoul a couple of different times when North Korea was making international news. One time they were lobbing missiles into the East Sea and the news was mostly about the risks of flooding from the heavy monsoon weather at the time, the other time there was sabre rattling, it was about the latest influenza season.
It makes sense, being under threat for so long, you'd either have try and put it the background or go mad if it's occupying every waking thought, obviously the better choice is the former which they seem to have gone with.
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u/manofredgables Nov 19 '22
I mean... If NK actually followed through on their threats, they'd just be steamrolled by entire world basically.
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u/ends_abruptl Nov 19 '22
China would not allow it. They do not want Allied forces on their border. North Korea IS the DMZ.
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u/Effective-Juice Nov 19 '22
Throwing another opinion in the ring: China would be the first to invade if NK was the aggressor. A better chance for them to grab land would never come up. The world in general would probably even allow it with a few grumbles.
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u/Plthothep Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22
This is probably what would happen, but China doesn’t give a shit about NK land. The reason would be that NK is China’s dog, and China absolutely doesn’t want a nuclear war right on their doorstep. If the dog goes rabid it’ll just be put down, and they’re certainly not letting US aligned forces get up to their border.
Edit: to be clear since there seems to be some confusion, China wouldn’t get rid of NK (an important buffer state for them) but invade to replace the current regime with a more compliant one, like what Russia intended to do with Ukraine. Any war started by NK would end in a couple of days with a Chinese rifle shoved firmly up Kim Jong Un’s ass and a brand new Glorious Leader.
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u/mrsegraves Nov 19 '22
China DOES care about North Korean land as a buffer state. I think they'd prefer it remains a puppet state rather than become part of the Empire though
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u/Plthothep Nov 19 '22
To be precise, I’d expect them to do what Russia tried to do with Ukraine - storm the capital, get rid of the current leadership and replace them with a more compliant puppet.
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u/AcePolitics8492 Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22
Yeah China learned a lot about what makes a convenient ally during the Vietnam War. Early in its history North Vietnam supported the Chinese-backed Khmer Rouge in gaining control of the Cambodian government. Over time these relations eroded (edit: due to the ethnic cleansing conducted by Pol Pot's regime), and with the gradual collapse of communism globally Vietnam sought to solidify their own power within Indochina. They eventually turned on the Khmer Rouge and successfully occupied both Cambodia and Laos for a very long time. China then attempted to invade Vietnam but was forced to withdraw, as the nation had grown too powerful and to adept at guerilla warfare to counter without investing more resources than China was willing to deploy.
Much better to have a weak, generally uninspired and insular border nation to give you some metaphorical "breathing room" than a noisy one. The North Korean government focuses its attention inward at complete and total control, at the whim of Kim Jon Un. Vietnam has historically operated against many of the region's more unstable Chinese-backed regimes and has a rebellious streak against Chinese control of the region. If North Korea gets too uppity China will make sure they're the first to deal with it, or they'll risk losing their little meat shield in a crucial geostrategic zone.
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u/Certain-Cook-8885 Nov 19 '22
Vietnam invaded because the Khmer Rouge massacred 3000 Vietnamese civilians. “Expansionist tendencies” get the fuck out of here.
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u/Goku420overlord Nov 19 '22
The Vietnamese generally distrust anything Chinese. Chinese veg and fruit and meat are seen as inferior and potentially full of dangerous chemicals. They also generally hate the Chinese. I do say this from years living in north central, and northern Vietnam. My wife's father was a tank commander in the north when the Chinese tried to invade. Him and all his friends hate the chinese. There is many stories of how the Chinese try to fuck with the Vietnamese, from killing cashew plantations, to the head police spy building in Hanoi riddled with spy devices of the Chinese, to them fucking with local farmers and there produce yearly.
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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Nov 19 '22
It's really bizarre how that played out. The Vietnamese hate the Chinese, their one-time ally, but kinda love Americans, their one-time enemies.
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u/XephyrX Nov 19 '22
In Seoul it's always a sobering reminder of the threat from the north when I see all the signs for the subway stations doubling as bomb centers. It seems like the government goes pretty far with preparation as long as it doesn't interfere with people's day-to-day.
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u/WhyNotSendIt Nov 19 '22
I remember going down all those escalators and thinking "why are their subways so far down?". Then having the "Ahhhhh" pop into my head
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u/handlebartender Nov 19 '22
Holy shit. You just gave me the same "ah" moment.
I was in Munich some decades ago. I remember using the U-Bahn and at one point being blown away by how far down one set of escalators took me.
It seemed both comically overdone and technically impressive at the same time.
But your perspective just shone a light on another possibility.
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u/paperkutchy Nov 19 '22
I mean, they still have mandatory military service, so they do fear might come NK and the Kim family goes balistic, mainly because they have favors to pay to their friends in Russia and China. I wouldnt see NK being aggressive otherwise.
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u/tattoogrl11 Nov 19 '22
Yes. We have so much artillery aimed at them that within ten minutes we'd have to go boots on the ground in NK to clean up
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u/tattoogrl11 Nov 19 '22
When I was stationed out there with the army, we used to joke that every winter he'd threaten nuclear war because their crops froze/died and they didn't have food...
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u/The_Fake_King Nov 19 '22
North Korea just needs some time to relax in their safe space unfortunately it's in South Korea.
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u/Schan122 Nov 19 '22
military drills with south korea by the border. not that it's anything new, N Korea just likes to get upset
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u/ElderberryHoliday814 Nov 19 '22
He’s a foreign educated dictator of a failing state, he’s just pissed he can’t sit at the table with the adults. Stuck sitting next to uncle Putin at the children’s table
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u/Lower_Refrigerator_2 Nov 19 '22
I can just imagine Kim and Putin getting stuck at the kids table during dinner now
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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Nov 19 '22
Kim: ... Want to play on my basketball court?
Putin glaring at the adults table from his undersized chair: Shut up.
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u/ROLL_TID3R Nov 19 '22
I’m convinced Putin is putting him up to it just to take some of our attention.
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u/PrinceVorrel Nov 19 '22
The winter could be a little cold and they'd blame US Agression
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u/APIPAMinusOneHundred Nov 19 '22
About a week ago somebody on Reddit said it best when they characterized Kim Jong-un as the dog that barks at you from behind the fence. This is a non-story.
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u/chill_winston_ Nov 19 '22
Yeah he’s never gonna do shit. His whole little piece of shit autocracy would get flattened so fast. This is just posturing to appear tough for the people he’s trying to keep submissive.
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We need to send James Franco over there to calm things down
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u/SLAVA_STRANA541 Nov 19 '22 •
They hate us because they anus
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u/PrisonSlides Nov 19 '22
They’re just peanut butter and jealous.
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u/ReadySteady_GO Nov 19 '22
Haters gonna hate and ain'ters gonna ain't
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u/twitchosx Nov 19 '22
CUNT PUNT THAT MOTHERFUCKER!
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u/LiberatedApe Nov 19 '22
You trying to honey dick my friend? Don’t honey dick him!
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u/ShwiftyCardinal Nov 19 '22
She's here to honey pot us, and he's here to honey dick me in case I'm gay, which I'm not!
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u/kuza2g Nov 19 '22
He's not honeydicking you and I'm not honeypotting him. It's actually pretty offensive cuz if you think about what you're saying, because I'm a lady and I'm attractive, my only purpose is to distract men.
Runner up line was when james franco asks about her glasses and she says lasik lmfao
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u/BarrySandwich24 Nov 19 '22
They hate us because they anus?
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u/Top_Mind_On_Reddit Nov 19 '22
Did he stutter?
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u/AaronE541 Nov 19 '22
Is there an echo in here ?
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u/dirtafbag Nov 19 '22
I think we all need anustart
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u/CTMechE Nov 19 '22
I'll start by talking to my Analyst/Therapist ... the Analrapist.
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u/Mimmzy Nov 19 '22
I thought you were the Samwise to my Frodo, but really you’re just Boromir
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u/that_ghost_mane Nov 19 '22
Listen, if drinking margs and listening to Katy Perry makes me gay then who wants to be straight?
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u/BigMac10314 Nov 19 '22
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind wanting to start again ?
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u/Eggsandthings2 Nov 19 '22
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin Like a house of cards, one blow from cavin' in?
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u/Ok-Letterhead4601 Nov 19 '22
Dude you got honey dicked.
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u/Tre_Fo_Eye_Sore Nov 19 '22
Or Katy Perry.
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u/ourobboros Nov 19 '22
I need to start a nuclear program then.
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u/AntiTramp Nov 19 '22
I had burrito last night and my nuclear program has started this morning
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u/M1_N4M3_1S_URL Nov 19 '22
Let's just say I got something in my hand for him
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u/senortipton Nov 19 '22
“We used to be better together USA. Stop paying attention to Ukraine; our entire identity is built on hating you!!!”
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u/Merluner Nov 19 '22
And when asked about what constitutes "US aggression", NK replied "they looked at us weird".
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u/Mattho Nov 19 '22
The United States flew a B-1B supersonic bomber over South Korea on Wednesday as part of a massive combined aerial exercise involving hundreds of warplanes, a clear warning after North Korea last week tested its biggest and most powerful missile yet.
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u/widgeamedoo Nov 19 '22
NK just needs some more food sent there as they are starving again. They spend all their money on military and nothing on food production.
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u/alwaystired707 Nov 19 '22
They can't plant anything because the soil is so poor. Need to send them massive amounts of bullshit.
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u/EvenGotItTattedOnMe Nov 19 '22
I’ve heard they have literally every possible patch of soil on the side of the road planted with crops, they just don’t have good land for it.
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u/Mr_Creecher Nov 19 '22
There's "probably" still cannibalism in the prison camps too. And now "probably " definitely on the "outside" of the camps as well now that there seems to be an increase of their normal food shortage all around. Sad. Really, really sad.
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u/heyoyo10 Nov 19 '22
"So there were these bullies on this website called Reddit and they called me stupid and stuff"
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u/Righteous_Fury224 Nov 19 '22
I'd say there's a USN boomer SSBN lurking off Japan that will reduce North Korea to radioactive ashes if they dared to launch an ICBM at American interests
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u/BossCrabMeat Nov 19 '22
There is at least 2 USN carrier groups lurking off Sea of Tonkin, and 2 more to get there within a week.
We don't need to glass 25 million people and deal with the fallout. 100 sorties to critical infrastructure and a SEAL team mission to Kim's location should do the trick.
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u/Mortumee Nov 19 '22
You'd have to do all that quickly before they can flatten Seoul and other big cities in SK. That's a risky move nobody is willing to make.
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u/leercore Nov 19 '22
You've just seen Russia, a former world power, absolutely and utterly collapse when they had to drag their military might out; imagine the state the North Korean equipment is in.
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u/GunGuy301336 Nov 19 '22
The difference is NK artillery is already in range of Seoul. And artillery doesn't have to be high tech. Imagine a shell hitting one of those high density high rises in Seoul. Even one would probably kill several dozen if not more. Now imagine hundreds hitting at once before the ROK military could take out the NK artillery positions.
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u/xenolon Nov 19 '22
Yeah, sure.
North Korea is basically the kid eating glue in the corner of the kindergarten classroom. They’ll never be taken seriously.
Oh sure North Korea, you’re a real country. Yes you are! Yes you are! Look at you with your missles which can hit a specific target as precise as an ocean! You’re so cute!
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u/Docile_Doggo Nov 19 '22
Just, you know, with a tad more human rights abuses than the kid who ate glue
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u/Electric_Evil Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22
You didn't meet the glue kid i went to school with! He's already been tried at the Hague.
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u/the_Q_spice Nov 19 '22
They seem to also not understand that MAD requires you to actually have enough nukes to destroy the other party.
Even by the most liberal estimates, they don't.
The US on the other hand...
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u/Shoddy_Alternative54 Nov 19 '22
Russia: "We're strong! We'll fuck up Ukraine AND anyone that tries to stop us! Unforeseen consequences, y'all! UNFORESEEN!"
(shits the bed, wants to surrender)
N. Korea: "Y'all ain't seen nuthin' yet"
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u/awsqu Nov 19 '22
Is it sad that as an American I saw this and went “ehhh, whatever.”
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u/Background_Poetry_53 Nov 19 '22
No, because no one takes NK seriously and everyone is ignoring it these days, due to more pressing matters. That's why poor Kim is having temper tantrums since March.
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u/halloni Nov 19 '22
Makes me wonder what he does all day? When he isn't having temper tantrums, does he just chill at home and watch western media?
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u/WhyEggSoTasty Nov 19 '22
Why would you care. NK saying shit like this is equivalent to a worm trying to fight a monster truck.
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u/BucktoothedAvenger Nov 19 '22
TIL: "All Out" is a North Korean term which loosely translates to "We'll launch our one lonely-ass nuke and blow the shit out the middle of the Pacific Ocean."
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u/Newone1255 Nov 19 '22
I’d be more worried about them nuking Seoul
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u/guyblade Nov 19 '22
The threat of them nuking Seoul (or really, just unloading with tons of conventional artillery) is what prevents their country from being turned into a smoldering crater. If they actually did it, that would be the end of the Kim Regime at the very least.
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u/DaMonkfish Nov 19 '22
If they actually did it, that would be the end of the Kim Regime at the very least.
The US would roll through NK like a bowling ball rolls through pins. The bigger concern, I think, would be what China made of it.
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u/Simbuk Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22
If NK actually deployed a nuke, China would trip over themselves to get out of the way of the response. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was already an agreement quietly in place regarding that contingency.
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u/ask-me-about-ammo Nov 19 '22
I'm no expert on global politics but I feel like NK is more of a convenient buffer state in china's eyes. You keep that friend in middle school not because you like them, but because every time they act up in class it makes it easier for you to look off the smart kids homework. Once they cross the line by taking a swing at the teacher however you'll claim you barely knew them.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I do not know of anything that would prevent China from rolling on NK as soon as they became more trouble than their worth. Is having a buffer state between China and US allies the hill China would die on?
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u/Newone1255 Nov 19 '22
I agree, all it would take is for Kim to have a shity day and decide now is his time
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u/Unipro Nov 19 '22
If they nuke Seoul there would be no North Korea. It's a death sentence to every statesman in the country.
Performing a nuclear first strike would loose them their only half ally China. They would loose their only leverage and the US would be carpet bombing NK in hours after the strike.
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u/interestingsidenote Nov 19 '22
Hours? We're within striking distance right now. If they launch anything at Seoul, the rest of SK and the US would be wiping them out in literal minutes.
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u/weazel988 Nov 19 '22
Alot of things getting loose, maybe you can be the spanner that goes and tightens it all up
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u/FictionVent Nov 19 '22
As a Hawaii resident, that doesn’t make me feel any better…
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u/ayriuss Nov 19 '22
You can bet we got some top secret shit protecting Hawaii. Pearl Harbor pt 2 ain't happening.
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u/moose098 Nov 19 '22
KCNA said the missile flew nearly 1,000 km (621 miles) for roughly 69 minutes, reaching a peak altitude of 6,041 km (3,754 miles)
Is it just me or is that ICBM really fucking slow? I know it's thousands of miles above the earth's surface, but aren't ICBMs suppose to go faster than that? That's just a little faster than a passenger jet at cruising altitude. I guess it doesn't really matter if your target is Tokyo or Seoul though. If they actually do turn the keys, I don't think they're aiming for Honolulu or California.
I have serious doubts about US anti-ICBM technology (and pretty much every other's countries'), but the AEGIS system could probably take something like that out.
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u/mlanutti Nov 19 '22
Nkorea is just lucky they are attached to Skorea otherwise we would just delete them
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u/Jiggle-Jiggle22 Nov 19 '22
Angry rocket man strikes again, he would get absolutely obliterated in a nuclear war with the USA.
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u/RossMachlochness Nov 19 '22
Let the poor guy be. He just trying to look cool in front of his daughter.
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u/TronOld_Dumps Nov 19 '22
Lol. What would the west even want from North Korea, expect for them to shut up?
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u/Commercial_Tough160 Nov 19 '22
What?! I thought President Trump had solved the North Korea nucular problem forever. He even sold commemorative medals to celebrate his great statesmanship and everything.
Now I’m starting to even wonder if he really did build that wall that Mexico paid for.
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u/Wargod042 Nov 19 '22
As someone in the US, this feels like I'm the cat and North Korea are the two girls pointing at me. We feel bad about the shitty conditions the regime forces its population into, but since "humanitarian invasion" is a pretty ludicrous prospect I just don't get what we're even doing to provoke them besides sometimes existing in South Korea like we've done for decades.
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u/TwilitSky Nov 19 '22 edited Nov 19 '22
I'm surprised it took him this long. Normally within 3 weeks of inauguration day they pull out this old chestnut again. I guess they already knew Biden so they figured they'd let him get settled before they start with the desperate threat-begging they do for food aid every 4 years.
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u/That_Marionberry_262 Nov 19 '22
so anyways, beans and toast is a shite breakfast
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u/Its_Helios Nov 19 '22
North Korea could be wiped off the fucking face of this Earth so easily lol
They need to take the hint that they’ve isolated themselves and it’s hurt no one but their own in all aspects. They’re a joke lol
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I really don’t see the point here. Either he barks real loud and sends a missile near Japan for the hundredth time or does absolutely nothing and keeps the image of screaming in the corner of the classroom so the rest of the world is aware he still exists. Neither options look good on his part