I guess. Mine were in need of guidance until they were 6 or so. After that they had fairly good judgement. We lived near rivers and animals so the kids had to have decent judgement. They knew that, so they did. Maybe it’s a matter of necessity.

Thanks, sorry again man.

I’ve been one, and had a few. They wouldn’t have fallen in there if they could help it.

Plenty of people care. Being kind is never the wrong thing to do. Hurting people doesn’t feel good in the long run. Lifting someone up feels good every time. Try it. Lots of regular people put things on line hoping to be complimented. Just hitting them with insults is mean. Wouldn’t you want to help someone who seems like they need it?

Omfg. That’s priceless.

The kids aren’t going to jump in the river. They know better than that.

I was in the middle of an argument with a totally different person who is an asshole, I don’t even remember answering you tbh. I am sorry bro. I’m over here killing you in the crossfire.

Sorry man, I was a smartass. I do apologize.

You are the one who said, on multiple occasions, you felt it was appropriate to say things to people about their grooming. It is not appropriate. That is rude. You might find someone gross and disgusting, but it is rude to tell them that. The polite thing to do is have good manners, be kind, and move on. You don’t have to hurt people. Just follow basic etiquette and you will be fine. Jesus Christ, we all have stuff about us that’s not that attractive. Every woman and man does (plus in between, whatever makes folks happy). There’s no way you can justify criticizing someone’s grooming without being rude, BECAUSE THAT’S RUDE. No woman (and I’m assuming you like women) is going to think that is anything but rude, because by literally every standard, it IS rude.

How far back are you going? I was born in 1972. My parents couldn’t make it on minimum wage either, and got help from my grandparents. Fairly often. I definitely couldn’t make it on a few bucks above min wage, and go to school. I had a Pell Grant, and loans to pay for tuition. My paycheck couldn’t get me my own place. I had roommates, was homeless a fair amount, and tried and failed to move in with my parents, individually. My friends were in similar shape.

Hahaha @ society just supports whatever I do. When I graduated from college, and particularly graduate school, the number of men in my field was far higher than the number of women. There was a large pay gap between men and women. No one was even talking about women choosing how they groomed themselves, or what constituted a “professional” appearance. Even the fact that I outearned my husband substantially was universally frowned upon. This wasn’t that long ago. Pardon me if I laugh my ass off that your biggest beef is that women might have hairy legs or a hairy pussy. It is legit laughable. That said, there’s someone for everyone. Just keep in mind that these minor cosmetic details are nothing compared to the actual content of someone’s soul/person. We all get old, we all become unattractive eventually, and we all need help or companionship at some point. Things like whether someone shaved or not become unimportant. The way people look will eventually not be an extremely important thing to you at some point. It won’t matter at all.

Grown women do not mock men for having a beard. Every woman has different tastes. Many, like me, will think someone looks better with or without a beard, or a certain haircut. Most polite people, men or women, will understand that each person we think about is an individual human being with their own tastes, which are more important than what we think. If we don’t like a thing about someone sufficiently that that thing is intolerable, we will go about our business of finding someone we do like how they look. Not try to impose our opinion about that thing on the other person. That is where we differ. If I find someone’s grooming intolerable, I’m the one who moves on without being insulting enough to tell that person to bend to my tastes. You feel it is appropriate to tell the person what you like, and expect them to change based on your feelings. That’s not how being a grown up works.

I’m way too old to give a single shit about what some kid thinks about my body. I live on easy street because I am fairly wealthy based on income I generate myself. My professional success is entirely unrelated to my appearance. I have a nice life because I earned it. If some guy were to appear making demands about my grooming, I would laugh. Hard. And carry on with my nice life, beautiful home, and good friends. Without a second thought.

No, that’s not what I said AT ALL. Women don’t have to be dictated to about what is acceptable. Men who try to dictate to women will find themselves having difficulty keeping a partner, because women don’t appreciate being dictated to. It’s that simple. Most women will not accept that as the status quo. It’s pretty obvious that you have not tested your strategy in real life. Women literally do not care what you think about our legs, armpits, or vulvas. If you find one that does, great for you! Most will not though.

They aren’t though. Where are you all getting this info. Min wage was literally $3.35/hr when I started working. You couldn’t afford a damn thing on that. You’re misinformed. I worked my ass off through college. Was homeless a few times, could never have afforded to live on my own. Had student loans. What you think is the case, was not the case at all. I had a 40 hr/wk job. It was no where near enough.

Bro just carry on. You’ll figure it out eventually.

I don’t. I just said that. I’m saying that young people today are mistaken in their belief that there was some magical time when that happened. There wasn’t.

I have, quite extensively, and do camp by myself, in bear country in Wyoming on the regular. I don’t frequent campgrounds. I have an AWD vehicle, and tend to camp dispersed on BLM land. And I’ve been doing it for 30 years. But you go right ahead and let me know how it “should” be done. I’m all ears.

I’m not wrong, I lived through those times. I don’t think people should work for less than survival pay. I do think that people are mistaken to think that a minimum wage job was ever enough to survive on. And that there was a time when working a fast food job was enough to pay living expenses and tuition. That is simply not true. I worked my ass off to get through college, at above minimum wage, full time. It’s not enough to live independently and never was.

It is not a matter of women grooming themselves because someone told them to. We figure out for ourselves what works for us. It is not necessarily based on some guy’s particular tastes. Good luck with what you’ve got going on. You’ll end up with exactly who you deserve.

Your grooming preferences aren’t anyone else’s issue though. You need to understand that. And you will. Just keep telling women how they need to behave in order to please you. It won’t be long.

Them’s fightin’ words right there folks

Fair enough, fair enough. Everyone thinks there was a magical time when working fast food paid all the bills, tuition too, and we didn’t have student loans. Fast food jobs have never paid the bills for even one person to survive.

Lol it was definitely NOT possible to work at McDonald’s and pay your way through college, wtf?! Do you realize what those jobs paid? That wasn’t enough to live on them either, let alone pay tuition. I don’t know why people think that. It was absolutely not the case then any more than it is now.

I was responding to the comment above, wherein it says that adult life was easy for the previous generation.